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13 minutes ago, RootAnn said:
Single-digit counting number would be 1. Single-digit whole number would be 0, right? Smallest single-digit integer -9?
I miss-read ?
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Wait, isn’t the largest 99 and the smallest -99, which willhive you 198?
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11 hours ago, vaquitita said:
I will have four students for the first time this school year and I'm nervous about whether I can handle it. I'm suddenly having a math panic attack. What was I thinking, thinking I could do right start math with TWO kids???
My oldest two are set. My 7th grader will be doing beast academy 5, mostly on his own, with help from me on hard problems/sections. My 5th grader will be continuing in CLE, that worked fab for her last year. Similarly doing it mostly on her own, with daily check ins with me.
And then I'll have my youngest two boys, in 2nd grade and TK, who I blithely planned to use right start with (levels c and a, respectively). What was I thinking? How am I going to have the time and energy for that??? Last year my 1st grader did RS B the first half, family emergencies threw a curve ball at us, and he did beast academy 2A the second half of the year. I'd read the guide with him, but he did the workbook semi independently. He loved it. I gave him the RS placement test at the end of the year and he placed in C, so I was planning to just move him into that this year. But now I'm wondering... I have a time crunch, he picks up math quickly... Should I switch him to something else less time consuming for the teacher? Singapore? Horizons? Ack!!
Why not stick with Beast Academy for your 2nd grader? I absolutely love RS level B - such a great foundation for math! But we didn't feel the love with C and so my kids switched into BA (one switched about half way through the year, and the other I used singapore 2 and then BA because level 2 wasn't out yet). Not only is it solid math, he likes it, he did well with it (he placed into RS C after only half of B and one BA book), and he does it semi-independently!
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5 hours ago, whitehawk said:
It seems to be about 50-50, and only that much if you count things attached to virtual school enrollment (e.g., free laptop), if links like this are to be believed. Most states seem to want homeschoolers to pay their own way. I think we should be able to get copies of any textbooks in use in the district where we live, enroll in extracurriculars after a semester waiting period [so parents don't withdraw and not-school failing high schoolers], and use the state test as our required standardized test if we choose.
Re: the OP, I saw a lot of this on Facebook this spring. IDK if people took the hint when the answer was usually "Check out books like TWTM from the library" or if I left the group where it was happening most.
I'm uncertain how to accurately gauge this, because this link shows many of the states on which the above link says there's no option or it is not operating to actually have options. I didn't read through all 50. I only brought it up to say that I am unsure how to figure out accurate numbers. If the point is to have access to state funds in SOME way, but also needing to be accountable to the state, I agree that it is not unreasonable.
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4 minutes ago, unsinkable said:
Yeah, this is going no where..
I never mentioned no strings attached. Maybe you are confusing me with another poster.
and I specifically mentioned union president and union reps, not teachers in gensral.
When I quoted you there was no distinction on accountable. I quoted you specifically to bring up the point of accountability - not to say you were wrong but to say it would be unreasonable to assume the state should supply things free without oversight. You responded to my post, in which I said most states offer free materials with strings attach and no strings attached is unreasonable, with suggesting I sounded like I was from a teachers union (and someone who agreed with me as sounding like a union rep, which organization was about money and they were unwilling to share a penny, and BTW these people are or were at one point teachers). I took this to mean you disagreeded with the assertion the district/state shouldn’t have to give Homeschoolers funds if there is no oversight.
I am glad we agree that any funds from the state (and *most* states have some kind of option of receiving funds for homeschooling if you go through their accountability requirements) require accountability.
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15 minutes ago, unsinkable said:
Maybe read what I actually wrote...
I did! It isn’t all about the money. I’m not going to get into politics of teachers unions, but I can guarantee that most educators (even union members!) care about educating children! But they also have to eat, go to the doctors, and be able to have somewhere to live so money is a factor but not THE factor.
If you want free materials from the district with Little to no strings attached I think going and asking to check out resources your student would have had in school is reasonable. I also think participating in a public education charter/cover/umbrella which provides resources free of cost is fine too - as long as you are accountable for them. What I don’t think it reasonable is expecting to remove funds from public education to privately (in this case simple meaning “no strings attached”) educate your child at home. I don’t get funds from the public coffers to pay for my private driveway, or personal security, or personal library... You pay the taxes where you live for the public good and they are no longer under your personal management (unless you are talking about your responsibility as a citizen for civic participation).
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31 minutes ago, unsinkable said:
Good, you can be a union rep.
It's all about the money, not the child and her education.
You really think that thousands of teachers across the nation go into education for the money ?
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42 minutes ago, unsinkable said:
this could have been written by the local teachers' union president. They are so afraid of sharing the pie and giving up one penny...
I’m definitely not a member of the teacher’s union, but I think anyone who is concerned about budgeting resources for homeschooling (or a host of other factors that go along with educating your children) could probably muster a little empathy for those trying to figure out how to educate 30 kids in a classroom or hundreds, of not thousands, of kids in a district.
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1 hour ago, Quill said:
Yeah - only one of my three kids would quietly look at books and play with little animal figures quietly for an hour or so in the morning. I did discover, though, with my last kid, that if I invested a half hour or so directly sitting with him playing trains, I would buy at least another half hour of peace while he continued to play with the trains. I used to call this, “filling his tank.” A little gas-up of direct attention was good for a coast down the hill.
I think this applies to older kids in homecool too, even if it’s no longer a 1:1 time ratio. They need a “top off” or perhaps a “priming” to run independently too
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Joy Hakim’s History of US and the three book series The Story of Science.
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? (wishing we still had "bangs head" emoji). I just saw a FB request re: morning baskets, which in my own mind is the most snuggly-time-together-sharing-engaging time you can do. The poster mentions that kids are 5 and younger and do not read yet and doesn't understand how this (a basket of books) will work with non readers. Also includes: "I am trying to make it as independent for them to do on there own my fantasy is to have a basket they can play with and learn from while I sit on the couch with a cup of tea and watch them play and practice our quiet time" Hopefully it is just a misunderstanding of what most people do with the whole Morning Basket thing. I know it isn't for everyone, but this kind of blows my mind ?
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22 minutes ago, Arctic Mama said:
Our umbrella schools did it on a piece by piece basis - like, they aren’t paying for specifically religious materials in things like Calvert or Sonlight, but they would compensate the geography books, math, readers, etc, that weren’t explicitly religious. So you could seek reimbursement for 80% of the package, essentially. And there was no disallowing *teaching* with them and submitting grades, just no funding.
Worked well.
This is similar to the umbrella we used in WA, but after several years of abuse they changed to offering on-grade-level packages only, and only 3-4 curricular choices for each grade/subject. And we had to start doing weekly reports with greater detail. I am not against using state funds! I do think that there will always be a trade off though. And for a while, at least in WA, the homeschool "boom" had lots of people using the state funds but that also meant lots of people abusing or misusing. Isn't frustrating how the few stinkers spoil it for everyone? I liked the upthread comment about how movements have vanguards (though I don't claim to be one) but as the movement swells the vision of the vanguard is not caught be all the followers and the sheer numbers of less-oriented/driven followers overtake the direction.
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6 hours ago, Roadrunner said:
Its one hour drive included. By the time we get there, 2 hours workout, then back, it’s three hours.
Can you use the drive on the way there for school work?
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Last year in 7th he was doing school work from 8:30-2:30, however there were some big breaks (half hour transportation, at least and hour of distracted time or break time). So maybe 4.5 hours?
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1 minute ago, Kinsa said:
For some bizarre, incomprehensible reason to me, we have groups in Texas who are actively working AGAINST this option. I truly don't get it.
We had those on WA - they excluded people who used part-time school services/classes or who used state umbrella schools from being called Homeschoolers by the state homeschool organization or participating in the homeschool scholarships they offered. As it was explained to me it was because they did not want the camel’s nose of state regulation in the homeschooling tent.
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1 hour ago, unsinkable said:
I don't think it is unreasonable at all for people to expect "free" homeschooling materials or expect that school districts would provide such materials for "free."
Everyone who lives in a district contributes monetarily to the district, one way or another. And if you have kids in the district, they are entitled to an education.
If the district can't provide it in the brick and mortar paradigm, then I think parents deserve other options, paid for without additional monies from the parents.
Also, for all the parents who people think are not doing enough, there is another group of parents people think are doing too much.
It is like George Carlin's theory...everyone driving slower than him was a moron and everyone driving faster was an idiot.
I think most states offer this but it comes with strings attached and isn’t necessary “independent” (ie parents have to do some work).
I don’t think it is reasonable to expect a district to pay for your independent homeschooling, unless they are just giving you the materials they would have otherwise used at the school and you teach at home. That a school district, which can barely afford funding for existing students, functions on marginal costs for additional students plays a large part in this. Per pupil funding isn’t all going to curricula - it goes to buildings, buses (and gas), insurance, salaries, free/reduced lunch subsidies, equipment (from gym balls to Smartboards), etc. And they get a discount on bulk orders of curriculum. It may only cost $7 for an additional 4th grade math student’s books/supplies when you buy in volume of 100s across a district. However, your individuality chosen math curriculum for your one student who is homeschooling may cost $50-$200 for the year. And if you are receiving funds from the public budget you should, like all other organizations receiving public funds, should be accountable for use of those funds (oversight, assessment, etc).
We spent several years with a public umbrella which offered funds and even gave us some discretion on spending. We started when oldest was in K and loved it, but by 5th grade we had had enough. The program grew as the popular wave of homeschooling swelled, and people abused the funds and students failed to meet standards (ie they failed the accountability clause). How you could spend the funds narrowed, and reporting increased. It is the very parents who fail to properly educate (“all online requires no parent interaction”) and has no skin in the game (“free”) which caused the once flexible and effective system to disappear.
As far as taxes paying for the public education your child isn’t getting as a homeschooler, well that’s your choice not to use the system. There are plenty of people with no kids in school who pay property tax.
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58 minutes ago, ByGrace3 said:
Does anyone know where there might be lesson plans for BtB Spanish? What is everyone who is using/have used planning?
I haven’t seen a lesson plan(s). I just broke the chapters apart into what I thought would be daily chunks (including our other resources).
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So they want free, uninvolved, online, and they want someone else to do the research for them. And now they also want them to be magically ready for college. I just saw a post from a parent whose child struggles in math. This is a 16 year old, who is still working on PreA. Rather than asking how to help the child, if an alternate approach would work, whether she should seek evaluations, if summer intensive math was an option, etc. she asked "how do I list this on his transcript for colleges?" ?
ETA I am not against people asking for help!!! And kids who struggle in math can go to college - after the struggles are worked out. I just am surprised that the mom was seemingly trying to gloss over math difficulties and make it look like he's ready for college.
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7 minutes ago, Seasider too said:
I have noticed that it is harder to sell used curriculum (good, solid stuff, not Evan Moor workbooks). People are looking for the lastest hands-free online stuff instead of actual books.
Oh no - you mean my cupboards of treasure are now worthless ?
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2 minutes ago, ksr5377 said:
The one on my state homeschooling FB page today:
Looking for an online program for my 8 year old that she can pretty much do all by herself. She'll be at work with me but I can't be the teacher all the time. The less it costs the better.
I don't understand this at all. It takes me less than 2 hours to do seat work with my 8 year old. I feel like replying that they would be better off schooling in the evening.
You should!
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My first grader is going to use the History of Me book, along with picture book biographies, and learning about maps and geography with books like Me on the Map, The Once Upon a Time Map Book, and Children Just Like Me. Super gentle, relaxed (no hard schedule except once a week from History of Me and everything else is as we can), and hopefully lots of snuggle up reading together. It's my last 1st grader ?
For science we have the Singapore Earlybird Science workbooks. My ds used these in first too, and he loved them. And that was the year I had two kids in VT, one in OT, and a newborn and it worked out very well despite the chaos. They are "do the next thing" and the few simple experiments are with household items. I am not usually a workbook person but these were good science yet gentle. But at the core there will be lots of time in nature, exploring with all our accumulated science equipment, a little Magic Schoolbus and Blue Planet, and who knows what else. Science is where I feel absolutely comfortable shooting from the hip, and our relaxed approach has produced three older sibling science lovers already.
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Yes, but perhaps distracted is a better description than in denial for me. We have been finishing house plans and are breaking ground this week (fingers crossed) and it has taken all my attention and research/planning/decision making executive skills. Monday I started with plans and the term begins in less than two weeks (I have kids in public or part time in public so we go by school district calendar). The summer flew by, and while I plowed through plumbing fixture catalogs I threw frozen waffles and pizza at my kids in a distracted way and pretty much let them do whatever. It has been so completely unstructured that I am debating on which would be better: our usual ramp-up style to the fall, or just cold-turkey bring in the full routine so we can get back to normal faster.
I need another month ?
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3 hours ago, EKS said:
Good question! Perhaps AoPS? I say "perhaps" because I have not used it.
Love AOPS, but no. This isn’t full of real world problems.
ETA Whoops thought that was in reference to OP’s question. AOPS is solid conceptually and does use some puzzles, there’s definitely high interest if you like math.
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BA Academy *just* opened so it’s hard to review it or compare. We just signed up, but haven’t played yet. However I live BA, this is my third kid to use it, and I would take it over Khan even blind/without testing. I will post after we have played with it a while, but I am already sold on it over Khan.
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Math double check for me?
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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Largest two-digit integer = 99
smallest single digit integer = -9
-9 - 99 = -108
got it now ?