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#1 Slache

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:30 AM

I'm collecting thoughts and resources for this. Have you gone before me and blazed a trail? What did you learn?

#2 Monica_in_Switzerland

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:15 AM

I pretty much teach the grammar of the more complicated language- for us that's French- and occasionally tag on something like, "Oh, it's called ____ in English by the way."  Teaching one grammar is really enough.  We taught reading in both languages, with a gap of about 6-12 months between starts.  So for the first two, we taught English reading, then 6+ months later, taught French reading.  For the third, we are teaching French reading first, then English.  

 

Spelling we do in both languages (I have terrible spellers).

Writing- we emphasize French because we have homeschool inspections in French, but generally we alternate and write in both languages.  I generally teach the same concept- i.e. write a portrait of a person- then have them do examples in both languages because obviously the content/style transfers.  

 


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:20 AM

I pretty much teach the grammar of the more complicated language- for us that's French- and occasionally tag on something like, "Oh, it's called ____ in English by the way." Teaching one grammar is really enough. We taught reading in both languages, with a gap of about 6-12 months between starts. So for the first two, we taught English reading, then 6+ months later, taught French reading. For the third, we are teaching French reading first, then English.

Spelling we do in both languages (I have terrible spellers).
Writing- we emphasize French because we have homeschool inspections in French, but generally we alternate and write in both languages. I generally teach the same concept- i.e. write a portrait of a person- then have them do examples in both languages because obviously the content/style transfers.


It's my intention to teach reading in Spanish and then spelling in English. I also plan to rotate grammars. I am extremely uncomfortable with grammar.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 06:02 PM

We use:

 

MCT to teach English grammar and writing

Spanish for Children for Spanish grammar and writing

Rosetta Homeschool Spanish for speaking

RAZ Plus / Public Library for Spanish reading

 

We are all English speakers. DH took Spanish in high school. I did not. We just started year two and it is working nicely. The boys speak to each other in Spanish while playing -- without being asked to do so -- and they are picking up on conversations that Spanish speakers are having in the store.



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:40 PM

I won't be able to actually update this for years so I'll give my intentions.

 

-Reading first with La Pata Pita followed by spelling with Reading Lessons Through Literature.

-MCT for vocabulary.

-Most likely focusing on Castilian grammar as it's the most complex.

-Literature and Writing across the curriculum hand selected by mom. I plan to use products like Teaching The Classics, Teaching Writing With structure & Style and The Writer's Jungle so we aren't limited to one language or subject.



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:56 PM

If you are referring to Castilian as to what is spoken in some parts of Spain, there is no advantage to focusing on the most complex grammar. Focus on the most common.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:22 PM

If you are referring to Castilian as to what is spoken in some parts of Spain, there is no advantage to focusing on the most complex grammar. Focus on the most common.

 

Yeah, I'm torn. I see both sides.



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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:07 AM

Yeah, I'm torn. I see both sides.

 

What's the other side? Learn the more complicated for the sake of doing so? Don't you have Latin for that? lol, kind of



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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:20 AM

What's the other side? Learn the more complicated for the sake of doing so? Don't you have Latin for that? lol, kind of

By learning the most complicated you cover both. Learning Castilian will cover Espanol and most of English.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:39 PM

By learning the most complicated you cover both. Learning Castilian will cover Espanol and most of English.

 

Nah. Why waste brain space on parts you don't need? You are already learning several languages. Use the brain space for what is efficient and most useful. Spanish and English will be covered, along with the other languages you are learning. Stop making your life difficult. Spanish is for communicating with those around you. So learn to communicate with those around you. Not learn complicated grammar for some ideal that will not actually meet your goals.

 

(for those of you following this thread, I kinda sorta know this woman, so I can speak to her like this, lol!)


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:46 PM

Nah. Why waste brain space on parts you don't need? You are already learning several languages. Use the brain space for what is efficient and most useful. Spanish and English will be covered, along with the other languages you are learning. Stop making your life difficult. Spanish is for communicating with those around you. So learn to communicate with those around you. Not learn complicated grammar for some ideal that will not actually meet your goals.

(for those of you following this thread, I kinda sorta know this woman, so I can speak to her like this, lol!)

Stop making me think about things. How do you teach grammar?

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:09 PM

Stop making me think about things. How do you teach grammar?

 

With a text. Not that it did me much good. I learned with a text and it went over my head (college level). I remember speaking Spanish with my dh-then-boyfriend a year later, and reflecting, "Oh, I just used a reflexive pronoun. So, that's what it is!"

 

Yeah, I started out using a text with oldest, but due to a dearth of resources, I stopped. It hasn't hurt my oldest any. A noun is a noun is a noun. I gave up Spanish grammar in elementary and picked it back up in middle school with an overview. I think it was Applications of Grammar. Oh, that was English. I'm not a classical homeschooler, I guess, so don't think one needs to know and drill all the terms of grammar in order to speak properly. Speaking and writing properly are my goals. Shrug. I would like her to take Spanish writing, though. She can get it through the community college here.



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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:51 PM

Some neat Language Arts things.


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