silver Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 A parse tree is an alternative to typical sentence diagramming. Here's an example for a simple sentence: http://media100.dropshots.com/photos/365957/20130304/124509.jpg Does anyone know of any curriculum that teaches this instead of diagramming (as R&S does) or simple labeling of the parts of speech (as it looks like Winston Grammar does)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 Bump for the evening crowd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I've never seen that, but I think diagramming looks easier. That was a lot of writing for a 4-word sentence. What happens when you get a complex sentence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 It looks like the lattice multiplication of the language arts world. Make it easier by making it more complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Here's wikipedia on parse trees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parse_tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 OK, this is much more than an alternative to sentence diagramming. This seems to be higher math and science, a tool used by linguists and computer programmers...is somebody watering this down and using it as a English grammar tool for elementary students? Context Free Grammars, Context-Free Languages, Parse Trees, and Ogden's Lemma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_diagram Reed and Kellogg back in the late 1800s. Fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 I've never seen that, but I think diagramming looks easier. That was a lot of writing for a 4-word sentence. What happens when you get a complex sentence? Most of them have abbreviations for the words (rather than 'noun', 'verbphrase', etc) written out. I'm not sure how complex sentences would work. I know that more complicated sentences make my head spin with diagramming. I liked how it retains the order of a sentence so that you can still read it even if you aren't familiar with how it works. But I guess it sounds like it's not really meant for elementary/middle school students? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I did teach my kids grammar with simple syntax trees. I stayed away from delving into x bar theory too deeply and only lightly touched on wh-movement. I like that you can use syntax trees with any language and that it shows hierarchical relationships between phrases in a way that diagramming can't. I didn't have a textbook, so I can't help there. With an older kid, you could use an intro linguistics textbooks (Language Files would work well) or something like Pinker's "Words and Rules" which is written for a non-academic reader and so is pretty accessible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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