momto2blessings Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Can I get some input on the below scheduling for my current 7th grader? I'm wanting to develop logic and thinking skills and translate that to writing/speaking, but don't want to duplicate my efforts. I think some of the argument programs are similar to Lost Tools of Writing, but I haven't gotten a hold of any of the programs to compare side-by-side. Is some of this redundant? Thanks for any input....I really appreciate it! Blessings, Gina Writing: 7th Write with the Best II 8th: Lost Tools of Writing I 9th: Lost Tools of Writing II 10th: Literary Lessons from The Lord of the Rings 11th: Epi Kardia Essay Styles for High School/Epi Kardia Research Paper for High Schoolers 12th: Epi Kardia: The Art of Public Speaking Course Logic: 7th: Fallacy Detective 8th: Thinking Toolbox 9th: The Art of Argument, 10th: The Argument Builder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I can't help with the writing, but I'm familiar with the logic curricula. Decide if you're going to go with the Bluedorn books *or* CAP's books. Both would be redundant. Fallacy Detective and Art of Argument are both all about fallacies, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momto2blessings Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Oh, that's a big help. Thanks! I already own the Bluethorn books (currently going through FD), but is CAP better? I guess I was under the impression that the Bluethorn books were sort of intro books, and CAP deeper..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We prefer CAP's books, but I've only flipped through the Bluedorn books at a used book store. Judging by the descriptions for them on Amazon, it doesn't look like the Bluedorns got into formal logic? CAP's Discovery of Deduction covers that. We originally went with CAP because we already knew we liked and trusted them. Their books meet the kids where they're at, and keep them interested. We've used all three of their Latin titles, dabbled in their Greek, and this year we started their Art of Poetry. They're a great company, and that "Ask the Magister" button on their website works well if you get stuck. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We're going through FD right now & will do Art of Argument next year. Reading posts from other people who have used them both told me it was ok to do them in that order as CAP goes deeper & it wouldn't be redundant. Not sure what we'll do after that. No help on the writing stuff. :driving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momto2blessings Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Thanks, ladies, for the help w/the logic programs! Anybody have insight on using Lost Tools w/these programs? Would I be re-duplicating my efforts much by using Lost Tools and all the logic programs? Thanks for any input:) Blessings, Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladydusk Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 You might try asking that on the LTW Mentor list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momto2blessings Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Thanks, Dawn. I actually did that a while back. I got a couple helpful responses...but different logic programs were suggested and it feels a bit overwhelming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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