hsmom2011 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) We have been using Bibliolplan year 2 and my dd(11) hates the companion. It seems difficult to use the program without it, and as much as I like BP, sometimes I feel like I would just rather follow SOTW in order instead of jumping around. Since we are not using the companion we have had to ditch the cool history pages, and dd has decided to write a summary of her reading each week. I am now thinking about just doing straight SOTW with KF & the SOTW maps. I'm thinking of doing SOTW 2,3, & 4 for 6th & 7th grades, and then doing History of US with the Hewitt syllabus for 8th. I have also thought about doing SOTW over the 3 years and scheduling History of US alongside SOTW. Any thoughts on this? :confused: Edited September 10, 2012 by hsmom2011 Listed wrong vol. #s for SOTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily_Grace Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 SOTW didn't fit us for middle school. We loved it in elementary, but frankly middle schoolers need more. They don't need their primary resource to be a story book. At that point, they should be researching and learning to use multiple sources to develop a viewpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I am now thinking about just doing straight SOTW with KF & the SOTW maps. Here's how we're using SOTW for middle school. :blush: We're in Volume 2 right now (Middle Ages). Reading SOTW 2 and corresponding sections of Kingfisher History Encyclopedia. Record important dates/names on Timeline. My daughter was doing writing with her history in a history notebook, but Writing with Skill has completely taken over all of her writing time. We also have a booklist of readers/read-alouds that correspond with the SOTW readings: Trying to follow along with this schedule: http://www.classicalhouseoflearning.com The Sword and the Circle 1001 Arabian Nights A Single Chard Son of Charlemagne Nordic Gods and Heroes (or D'Aulaire's Book of Norse Myths) The Canterbury Tales Adventures of Robin Hood The Samurai's Tale Russian Fairy Tales A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver Shakespeare Stories (or Lamb's Shakespeare) The King's Fifth The Second Mrs. Giaconda The Lyon's Roar Walk the World's Rim Also: Beorn the Proud The Dangerous Journey Marco Polo Beowulf the Warrior The Lantern Bearers We tend to be very math and science-focused, so this is my older kids' first real sweep through history. My older kids are enjoying history so much right now that we're working on history 4-5 times a week. Not sure if that helps or if that's the kind of answer you're looking for. You should check out the Classical House of Learning Literature website! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekmom Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 SOTW didn't fit us for middle school. We loved it in elementary, but frankly middle schoolers need more. They don't need their primary resource to be a story book. At that point, they should be researching and learning to use multiple sources to develop a viewpoint. Do you mind showing us what that looks like week to week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily_Grace Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Do you mind showing us what that looks like week to week? Sure. To follow the WTM before we used Creek Edge Press task cards - it was just a way of keeping things in order. Say it was a week on Marco Polo for a 7th grader. Day 1 : read and outline/do story map for Kingfisher. Begin reading Looking For Marco Polo (fiction book). Day 2 : skim through The Travels of Marco Polo, using highlighter tabs. Watch documentary. Add to story map or outline if necessary. Day 3 : continue fiction book, open Jackdaw and examine the documents. Day 4 : begin critical analysis, sorting through available resources (online, too) to find true primaries and secondaries. Day 5 : Write paper on conclusion of findings - in this case, that there is no direct evidence showing that Marco Polo went on his journey. This week we're doing a quarter of a study on Lewis & Clark. Step one is still outlining the story, but this time on index cards. He's still reading a fiction book, but also has access to documents from the trip: the instructions from Jefferson, the journals, the list of men, the letter from Lewis to Clark... Then comes a comparison of language and implied facts in secondary sources vs. what is found in the original. "Friend and faithful slave" "Mean" "Difficult" all make inferences for him and he has to work to see if his conclusions, after looking at all the evidence, matches up to the secondary sources or if he feels differently. There is plenty enough online that this can be done with almost any history subject but I'd really recommend getting good primary source-filled books to go with. We have no problem referring to SOTW, but it has long been outgrown as a main spine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheadmom Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 While we have always homeschooled, it was early spring of this year that I got into the WTM way of educating. So for my DD in 5th, I am trying to catch up a lot of what I'm sure we have missed. For history we are reading through A Little History of the World (Gombrich) as well as, hopefully, all 4 SOTW. At the same time, she will be doing a study on ancients using D'aulaires Greek and Norse books, Famous Men of Green and Rome books downloaded and this book to cover all cultures. I don't plan on trying to match up the info and books. It will just be 2 separate history studies in the same year. My plan is to do another 2 years of World History during 7th and 8th with each year having a second simultaneous history study. One year will be Eastern Hemisphere geography and culture. The other year will be a focus on Middle Ages. Not perfect but maybe this will give you some ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmom2011 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Here's how we're using SOTW for middle school. :blush: We're in Volume 2 right now (Middle Ages). Reading SOTW 2 and corresponding sections of Kingfisher History Encyclopedia. Record important dates/names on Timeline. My daughter was doing writing with her history in a history notebook, but Writing with Skill has completely taken over all of her writing time. We also have a booklist of readers/read-alouds that correspond with the SOTW readings: Trying to follow along with this schedule: www.classicalhouseoflearning.com The Sword and the Circle 1001 Arabian Nights A Single Chard Son of Charlemagne Nordic Gods and Heroes (or D'Aulaire's Book of Norse Myths) The Canterbury Tales Adventures of Robin Hood The Samurai's Tale Russian Fairy Tales A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver Shakespeare Stories (or Lamb's Shakespeare) The King's Fifth The Second Mrs. Giaconda The Lyon's Roar Walk the World's Rim Also: Beorn the Proud The Dangerous Journey Marco Polo Beowulf the Warrior The Lantern Bearers We tend to be very math and science-focused, so this is my older kids' first real sweep through history. My older kids are enjoying history so much right now that we're working on history 4-5 times a week. Not sure if that helps or if that's the kind of answer you're looking for. You should check out the Classical House of Learning Literature website! Thank you for the info.! :) My dd has not yet covered the Middle Ages and SOTW supplemented with other books seems to be plenty for her. We plan to continue using the booklist from BP, just rearranged to fit the sequence of SOTW. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4kids13971 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I am using SOTW for my 4th grader and Mistery of History for my 6th grader. I have a schedule that cross references both books chapters so that my boys are always learning about the same topic, but reading from two different books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2boyzez Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Here's how we're using SOTW for middle school. :blush: We're in Volume 2 right now (Middle Ages). Reading SOTW 2 and corresponding sections of Kingfisher History Encyclopedia. Record important dates/names on Timeline. My daughter was doing writing with her history in a history notebook, but Writing with Skill has completely taken over all of her writing time. We also have a booklist of readers/read-alouds that correspond with the SOTW readings: Trying to follow along with this schedule: www.classicalhouseoflearning.com The Sword and the Circle 1001 Arabian Nights A Single Chard Son of Charlemagne Nordic Gods and Heroes (or D'Aulaire's Book of Norse Myths) The Canterbury Tales Adventures of Robin Hood The Samurai's Tale Russian Fairy Tales A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver Shakespeare Stories (or Lamb's Shakespeare) The King's Fifth The Second Mrs. Giaconda The Lyon's Roar Walk the World's Rim This is what we are doing also! Our Kingfisher time is outlining and we are also doing the SOTW tests. We have additional literature that is just for reading (with no lit guide work) as well as other interesting books from the library and Netflix videos. History is the highlight of our day! I have DS2 doing SOTW 2 and DS1 doing SOTW 3 & 4. That's just how it worked out and there's no fixing it. :001_rolleyes: Oh, and DS2 is doing IEW Middle Ages and DS1 is doing IEW Narnia so the time periods covered are the same as their history. Its nice! Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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