Do you use anything with OPGTR?

[VW1982]

Hi! I am looking into All About Spelling to use with my son. Should I finish up OPGTR or add it in while going through it? I've also been wondering what comes next? After OPGTR? Thanks for the help!

[*Michelle*]

We're following the recommendation of adding spelling and grammar once we complete lesson 140. At that point, we'll start Spelling Workout A and First Language Lessons 1.

[VW1982]

Can I add AAS and FLL at lesson 140?

[Classically Minded]

There is nothing after OPGTR as it is a complete phonics program. My daughter is easily reading on a 4-5th grade level after completing it last year before 2nd grade.

 

There are some recommendations from the WTM FAQ section of when to start what:

 

"There is no set lesson in The Ordinary Parent’s Guide to Teaching Reading at which the child should begin her spelling and penmanship instruction. Generally, the child should be about half-way through the lessons (around Lesson 115). At that point the child can read words with the most common patterns for short-and long-vowel sounds. The words in her spelling and penmanship program will therefore be familiar to her.

 

You need to be more precise when deciding to start First Language Lessons, since the child is asked to do copywork exercises. The Ordinary Parent's Guide is structured so that the child applies most phonetic rules to single-syllable words (Lessons 1-177). Lesson 178 and following in The Ordinary Parent’s Guide are all multi-syllable words—these lessons reinforce the patterns taught earlier. A few new phonetic patterns are introduced in multi-syllable words, but those patterns are not as common as the patterns taught in earlier lessons. Once the child has completed Lesson 181 in The Ordinary Parent’s Guide, he knows how to read most phonetic patterns, how to sound out the parts of multi-syllable words, and he has been introduced to the schwa sound. He is fully capable of doing copywork.

 

First Language Lessons for the Well-Trained Mind (Levels 1 and 2) is mostly oral work, although copywork exercises begin in Lesson 42 (and dictation exercises begin later). So by the time the child reaches Lesson 42 in FLL, he should be on or past Lesson 182 in OPG. If you are looking for a lesson by lesson comparison (and you do the same number of grammar and reading lessons per week), you can start FLL when the child in on Lesson 140 in OPG.

 

Following this suggestion assumes that the child has been practicing penmanship enough to copy names, words, and short sentences. If she can't do the copywork at the end of Lesson 42 (and subsequent lessons where she copies short words and sentences), delay beginning First Language Lessons until her penmanship skills prepare her for this."

[VW1982]

Thank you Classically Minded! That was exactly what I was looking for!:001_smile: