Elysian Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 ...and the people who set the tests don't appear to care. I was pretty shocked by this. http://thehappyscientist.com/blog/problems-floridas-science-fcat-test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest submarines Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama_Rana Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'm disgusted but not all that surprised. Today I was reading a book about life cycles with my 8 year old, and the author confused the terms chrysalis, cocoon, and pupa. I corrected the text, but that confused my son that the book was not correct. :/ I know it's a somewhat technical difference, and I didn't understand it for years, but ... still. I'm not a published author, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The Washington Post asked to pick up his article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomatHWTK Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Uh oh.... now you have to tell me the cocoon, chrysalis and pupa differences so I don't mess it up! :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannqn Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The worst part for me is that they are assuming all students are too stupid to know the "incorrect" answers could be correct. They are unwilling to recognize that students might actually know more than what they are taught by the teacher. For example, my 10 year old (would be in 4th grade) knows all about testing rocks for hardness using a glass plate. It's not like that's difficult information to understand. All a kid has to do is have an interest in rocks and check out a library book to know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannqn Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I'm disgusted but not all that surprised. Today I was reading a book about life cycles with my 8 year old, and the author confused the terms chrysalis, cocoon, and pupa. I corrected the text, but that confused my son that the book was not correct. :/ I know it's a somewhat technical difference, and I didn't understand it for years, but ... still. I'm not a published author, either. So, does The Very Hungry Caterpillar drive you nuts too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysian Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 http://stateimpact.npr.org/florida/2012/04/20/feedback-loop-fcat-not-blinding-them-with-science/ Some people say there are problems in the maths tests too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama_Rana Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 So, does The Very Hungry Caterpillar drive you nuts too? Yes, yes it does. Though I give it a small amount of leeway cuz it was written so long ago. ;) But when I taught kindergarten we would read "chrysalis" instead of "cocoon" Uh oh.... now you have to tell me the cocoon, chrysalis and pupa differences so I don't mess it up! :bigear: A chrysalis is an actual form the pupa takes while undergoing metamorphosis. It is primarily [exclusively? I'm not 100% sure] used by butterflies. A cocoon is spun of silk by the caterpillar around itself within which it takes the form of a transforming pupa. Used primarily by moths. Pupa is the stage between caterpillar [larva] and butterfly/moth [adult] during which the organism is undergoing metamorphosis. I told my son it was sorta like the difference between skin and clothes. The butterfly actually forms a hard shelled skin during its pupa stage while the moth puts on a protective outfit. And I still might not have it exactly right, but I know the book had it wrong! :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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