happycc Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 she doesnt know what a sentence is....her writing consists of and and and, then then then and no punctuation or capital letters. Do you think the Handwriting Without Tears Sentence School would be too babyish for her? She doesn;t even speak in full sentences most of the time. She answers in just phrases. Writing with Ease is making her answer in full sentences but it is painful for her. In her narrations, definitely not in full sentences and not normal English grammar. Sounds almost like yoda talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafiki Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycc Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycc Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 It is still too abstract, advanced for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycc Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I have been looking at the Montessori method. I think that Farm Grammar set might get her attention. naming the nouns and then adding the articles then the adjectives and she makes up her own sentences maybe. I don;t know. Their has to be something out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessAriel Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I subscribe to HSLDA's struggling learner newsletter and this month it was all about writing with a struggling learner. I looked on their site and it hasn't been posted there in the archives yet, but if you subscribe (don't need to be a member, I am not) you may be able to get it yet this month. They gave lots of recommendations for curriculum resources as well as general advice on writing. I would link it here but I think I accidentally deleted it after copying it:( Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy_kid_wrangler04 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Sounds almost like yoda talk. I am sorry- this made me :lol: My 1st grader is the SAME way!!! Anyways- check this out. I keep thinking about getting this for ds but I think I am going to give him another year before I do. This series goes up to grade 4 so you can follow through with any or all of the books you need until you feel she is good and solid in this. I am really tempted to buy all 4 books because right when I decide I want something like this its usually out of print :glare: ETA: Here is grade 2 Here is grade 3 Here is grade 4 so you can see the progression to help decide if you think this will be beneficial :) Edited October 17, 2011 by wy_kid_wrangler04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandelionMom Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Just adding in that we still use Handwriting Without Tears for our 8 and 1/2 year old. I don't think it is too babyish at all...we love that program! It helped our oldest immensely by turning her illegible handwriting into beautiful, clear handwriting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycc Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 but I am talking about the Sentence School Program...for the kindergardners would that be too easy for the 8yrs old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merry gardens Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 she doesnt know what a sentence is....her writing consists of and and and, then then then and no punctuation or capital letters. Do you think the Handwriting Without Tears Sentence School would be too babyish for her? She doesn;t even speak in full sentences most of the time. She answers in just phrases. Writing with Ease is making her answer in full sentences but it is painful for her. In her narrations, definitely not in full sentences and not normal English grammar. Sounds almost like yoda talk. Check out the Landmark School's teacher manual "From Talking to Writing" and the sentence framework work book. It starts with very simple concepts for sentences and builds from there. http://www.landmarkoutreach.org/publications3.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessedmom3 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 My 7yo has high functioning autism and speech delay. I am having a great success with Write a super sentence by Evan Moor. I also have the next about writing paragraphs. Both books are excellent . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycc Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 My daughter who will be 8yrs old has been doing FLL 1 for two years now and still doesn't understand what a noun is...or verb or adjective. It is like she can't remember it. She gets all the words mixed up and the labels. Do you think the Landmark curriculum might be too hard for her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merry gardens Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) My daughter who will be 8yrs old has been doing FLL 1 for two years now and still doesn't understand what a noun is...or verb or adjective. It is like she can't remember it. She gets all the words mixed up and the labels. Do you think the Landmark curriculum might be too hard for her? No. Landmark starts slow. It does not assume that the student knows those grammar concept. When the student starts writing he starts with constructing basic sentences that contain just an article, noun, verb--but Landmark doesn't assume that the students know what those are until the teacher has gone over it with them. The teacher manual doesn't tell you what exactly to say but instead offers ideas on how to teach these language concepts to students who have problems with language language concepts. Basically, it goes very slowly with lots of repetition while connecting the information with other learning. The teacher manual shows some examples but it leaves the specifics of lesson planning up to teachers. Teachers bring these language concepts to students in the context of other materials that they are also studying. Grammar is not taught in isolation but connected with other learning. We haven't gotten very far into the program, but the writing my ds produces is far less painful and discouraging to read. The student either gets the basic concept of a sentence or he doesn't--and they don't move on to more complicated sentences with phrases until they have a basic understanding of what makes a group of words into a sentence. We also use Barton Reading and Spelling and that program has some grammar built into it. The earlier levels of Barton continually reinforces that a sentence starts with a capital, ends with punctuation and contains a subject phrase and a predicate phrase. Only, since it was designed to teach people with dyslexia, it uses terms that don't sound so lofty and "academic" so they're less likely to confuse someone who has difficulties with language. Whatever program you decide to use, go slowly!--and tie teaching this into information she already knows about real life. Basically, a sentence needs a capital, a subject (usually a noun), a predicate and closing punction. (. !?) An article (a, an, the) often comes before the subject. Start with that. Don't bog her down with lots of adjectives, adverbs, prepostions, past participles, etc. etc. until she's demonstrated that she understands basic nouns and verbs. Edited October 26, 2011 by merry gardens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking-Iris Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Maybe Easy Grammar? I use it with my 8 year old and we love it. It's real simple---no distracting illustrations. It repeats the lesson over and over and the practices are very short. There's a lot of cumulative review as well. I'd start with the 2nd grade book. Also Schoolhouse Rock. My son learned a lot of his grammar when he was younger from those classic songs. You could also look at Writing Strands 1---it's a little booklet full of oral strategies and games to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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