Lindamood Bell Visualizing/Verbalizing...anyone use this at home?

[LittleHouseHomeschool]

Hi everyone,

 

Just got back from a consultation with a speech/hearing pathologist and she has recommended two therapies, along with a 504 for untimed tests for my high school student.

 

She wants him to do six to eight weeks of FastForward, followed by Lindamood Bell's Visualizing/Verbalizing.

 

Money is so tight. We cannot afford to pay the specialist to do both FastForward and Lindamood Bell.

 

I looked at the Visualizing/Verbalizing materials. It does not look like rocket science. I think I could learn this and do it at home. Has anyone done this without doing the workshop training? ($599.00 for a workshop)

 

I figured out Spell to Write and Read on my own...so does that mean that I might be able to figure out V/V too?

 

What do you think? Is this something that I can figure out with just the manual and a few necessary tools...like the appropriate workbooks?

 

I'm very frustrated at this point. Just like another poster here a few days ago said, "Why is it so difficult to find help for my child?"

 

We're running out of money, having just spent $1000.00 on testing, and we are no closer to helping this child. So far, I haven't learned anything I didn't already know to begin with!!!

[dtsmamtj]

I may not be of much help, but we are giving it a go on our own also. I have the manual and one of the workbook type books from level 4. Money is tight here also, not to mention that the closest facility that does the v/v therapy is 2-3 hours north of us.

 

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[Mom0012]

My son actually did V/V at a LMB center, and I sat in on a lot of the sessions. It is definitely not rocket science. Most of the people that worked with my son were college kids who had one week of training. This was a summer job for them.

 

The hardest part about trying to implement V/V at home is that it is just plain tedious and LMB really pushes the idea that you really need intensity in order to get results. So, according to them, you need to do it for at least a couple of hours a day. When my son was doing the program, they changed tutors every hour to keep them fresh.

 

That being said, the actual program is very simple. Now that I think about it, you might want to look at a similar program called Ideachain which is designed for parents to use at home. I believe it is fully scripted.

 

Lisa

[merry gardens]

My son actually did V/V at a LMB center, and I sat in on a lot of the sessions. It is definitely not rocket science. Most of the people that worked with my son were college kids who had one week of training. This was a summer job for them.

 

The hardest part about trying to implement V/V at home is that it is just plain tedious and LMB really pushes the idea that you really need intensity in order to get results. So, according to them, you need to do it for at least a couple of hours a day. When my son was doing the program, they changed tutors every hour to keep them fresh.

 

That being said, the actual program is very simple. ...

Thanks, Lisa for sharing your experience with the LMB clinics.

 

We're going to do the whole V/V program at home this summer, but we haven't started yet. We used some of the V/V materials this school year, but didn't do the program start to finish. I suspect that just touching on the V/V program had not done much good and that we needed more intensity.

 

I bought the first edition of the V/V manual, (which apparently was published before LMB had the product line of pictures, stories and books, etc.) I printed copies of pictures from the appendix in the back and spent an evening coloring them with crayons. (I felt like a kid again.) I found the highly imaged stories mentioned in the manual. The old manual spells things out clear enough and offers some scripting. It really doesn't look like it's going to be that hard to do, but it is different and unfamiliar.

 

I'm nervous about getting started, just as I've been nervous when begining unfamiliar programs in the past. I might buy one training DVD to watch before I start to ease my fears. ($80 for one, $329 for all 5 at Gander Publishing, which is still much cheaper than their workshops or clinics.) I bought just one DVD for their LiPS program before I impemented that at home. Seeing that helped me feel more confident about what I was doing with LiPS. Then after spending a lot of money for a short training session on vowels, I wondered if I had really needed it. In retrospect, I did need that vowel training. And now that I'm writing about it, I really should just bite the bullet and buy a V/V training DVD or two--or perhaps the whole set.

 

Sigh. I sympathize with the op who's running out of money for special ed programs. My ds is also almost ready to move onto the next level of Barton, so we'll be spending a few hundred dollars on that too.

[LittleHouseHomeschool]

Now that I think about it, you might want to look at a similar program called Ideachain which is designed for parents to use at home. I believe it is fully scripted.

 

Lisa

 

Lisa...thank you! This looks very promising...I am encouraged!

[Mom0012]

You are welcome! I hope it works out for you.

 

Lisa

[HeidiD]

I figured out Spell to Write and Read on my own...so does that mean that I might be able to figure out V/V too?

 

 

I think V/V is actually MUCH easier to implement than Spell to Write and Read, especially if you have the workbooks, which encapsulate the program painlessly for the teacher. I use the workbooks with my son and my V/V manual sits unneeded on the shelf, while my SWR sits far away, up in the attic :tongue_smilie: (program wasn't a good fit here). I'm sure you'll have no trouble. :)

[LittleHouseHomeschool]

Thank you, Heidi. I've decided to go with Visualizing/Verbalizing. I really appreciate your input. I definitely think I can do this. :001_smile:

[Guest nomads]

My son is 12 years old. I just got him evaluated at the LMB center and they recommended 240 hours. Wanted to see how the results were of training at home. Did anyone of you have success ? If, how did you approach this ? Read manual, watch training DVDs, attend workshop? What material is needed for training at home = V/V training kit? just the manual ? work books? Any feedback is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Nomads

[merry gardens]

My son is 12 years old. I just got him evaluated at the LMB center and they recommended 240 hours. Wanted to see how the results were of training at home. Did anyone of you have success ? If, how did you approach this ? Read manual, watch training DVDs, attend workshop? What material is needed for training at home = V/V training kit? just the manual ? work books? Any feedback is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Nomads

Hi Nomads--

Trying to do v/v with just the older manual that I mentioned earlier on this old thread intimidated me. I ended up doing a similar program at home that offered phone support and was more scripted that the older v/v manual. Since that time, I've learned from other people on this board that the new v/v materials are much more scripted and easier to impliment without a lot of training. The program I ended up using is called IdeaChain. http://www.mindprime.com/ IdeaChain goes up to the sentence level. Once someone can visualize sentences, they pretty much have the technique down. I wanted some reading comprehension workbooks so I bought some of the v/v stories and workbooks that cover sentence through paragraphs and paragraphs through stories. The new v/v materials are much nicer and easier than trying to do it just from the v/v manual. If you do a search on v/v, one l Michele describes what she bought to do the program at home--and I know there have been others who used it too.

 

I have never been to a Lindamood-Bell clinic so I can't really comment on the results they get at their clinics vs. home, but I can say that it costs only a fraction to try it at home. I don't know how the result would be for you and your child, but I'm fairly pleased with the results that we got from using IdeaChain along with portions of v/v.

 

My only complaint about the v/v workbooks we've used (which are from the later parts of the program) relates to my children's difficulty with writing stories of their own--but writing stories of their own is a different task from comprehension.

[Guest nomads]

Merry Gardens - Thank you very much for the response. Greatly appreciate it.