8circles
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We had a school bond up for a vote a number of years ago. We told our renters, "You vote how you feel led, but if the bond goes through, we will be forced to raise your rent. We've eaten the last two bonds and can't eat another." One renter, "But we don't pay school taxes!" SMH!
Why on earth would you say anything to your renters about how they should vote?
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We have made it home safely. It snowed here earlier in the day, but was fairly clear on the way home.
It all worked out well.
As for "just cancel" hotels, aren't most reservations charged if not cancelled before 24 hours? And definitely not a "night or two." I have to be at work early Monday morning!
I'm so glad it worked out.
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Wait a minute. Hold the phone. 3 extra hours of unpaid work “as a courtesy?†Is this industry standard? It seems this could be streamlined to a 15-20 minute process that is done on the clock. Do they have a union?
I understand it as 30 minutes each before & after shift, plus commute one hour each way. So 1.5 hours on either side of 8-hour shift so 11 hours. And an extra hour after work if they work out.
But it's not really clear.
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If it were an emergency, we could drive just up to Columbia and get a hotel I suppose, but it isn't ideal. That would mean leaving our kids alone overnight (they are old enough, but still) and my husband has church duties Sun am (and of course if there is an emergency he can call in and say he can't make it.)
The thing is, I am exhausted. I mean, bone dead can't cope right now exhausted. This job is sucking me dry and I wish I hadn't taken it. The thought of getting a hotel, needing to pack this morning for a just in case overnight, worried about not sleeping (I don't sleep well away from home) and then getting up Mon and starting all over again, makes me want to curl into a ball and hide.
Yes, we could stay the night half way back if necessary......but it will wear me out even more.
Given this, I would not go.
You've gone every other year you could.
Your health matters, too. I'm used to snow and storms & I would not go under these circumstances. You will be worried about the trip home the whole time.
Can you skype with them?
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Brilliant!
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Yes, me too.
I deliberately try to put n=1 anecdotal stories in their proper place. It seems we're hardwired to give them way more credence than they deserve so the logical thing is to realize that they influence us perhaps unreasonably, step back, and try to consider real, large scale evidence.
When I say that people's experience has swayed me, it isn't *just* their stories. It's their stories tied to concrete evidence of why their story went where it did. I used to support all kinds of things that caused difficulty, pain, were discriminatory & unjust. I didn't see the relationship between what I supported and other people's pain, I only saw my reasoning based on my perspective which I told myself was enough. That's what the stories showed me, that my perspective wasn't enough.
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I think there also needs to be a little bit of protection against abusive speech. We've all seen news comment sections that are totally unmoderated. Ideas don't have free rein. It's all "libtard" this and "rethuglican" that, and people threatening graphic violence against those they disagree with. The end result is that the bots and the trolls win.
For sure.
I think there's a difference between abusive speech and blunt, honest speech that hurts. The truth does hurt sometimes.
Sometimes this difference is clear, sometimes more blurry.
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Ktgrok, love the new avatar. The haircut really suits you.
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Those things in your last sentence exist elsewhere - plenty of places. I'm not sure why anyone would think they are only in the US.
It's what I was taught all through school. & at home actually.
I never really thought about it until I did, then it was easy to see how wrong it was.
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I think if you like a person, you give them the benefit of the doubt :)
She's not saying she's better than anyone else. I mean, I am not very humble, and fake humble gets my back up, but I really don't think she was being holier than thou, just expressing something true for her.
Thank you, Sadie, for understanding what I meant. I'm not very humble either. Which has actually been pointed out to me several times on this board. And it has been true for each of those times. I think it's a positive that I've recognized that and moved toward a more humble approach to people whose experiences have been different than mine.
I think anytime you change your mind about a strongly held belief, humility has to be a part of it. Unless, of course, you're going to pretend that you were never wrong.
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This little tangent jumped the shark when 8circles said the reason I responded the way I did was bc I didn't like her and you then "liked" her post.
IMO, the conversation essentially ends at that point...if any time a person doesn't like a response, she says, *oh, you just said that bc you don't like me* where does the conversation go?
Nowhere, I think.
I think it's pretty clear that your posts aimed at me are not coming from a desire to discuss given that you are picking out one particular phrasing to repeatedly ask me about, ignoring my greater explanation.
So, then, it also becomes clear what your motivation is. Since you've made no move to actually attempt to understand, it is completely disingenuous to say that *my* comment ends the discussion. I've explained. You've ignored.
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Nope. I don't know you. I was responding to your post. I repeated what you wrote and then you repeated it again. So you've stated it twice...people aren't as humble as you and it doesn't surprise you.
Do you think it is negative that people aren't as humble as you?
No. You don't have any interest in what I actually mean. You have already decided what you think I mean so it makes no difference how I answer any question you ask me.
Again, though, you aren't really asking me, because you've already decided what I think.
Have a great time discussing with yourself.
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Nope, it wasn't a question. I was repeating what you wrote.
Yes. You chose to read what I wrote in the most negative way possible because you don't like me.
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This is what I have experienced too...but I don't think anything anyone has said in a debate over an issue has changed my mind. I think meeting people and seeing with my own eyes how a person who I believe is being honest has been affected by something is useful for me, but I don't think any argument someone has made in any debate has made much of an impression in my beliefs.
Well, I don't think I've ever changed my mind in the middle of a debate, but I certainly have changed my mind because of what I heard in a debate.
And when you hear people's stories, they aren't always "polite". When you deny people's negative experiences which are a result of a belief that you hold strongly, you cannot expect that person to only say polite things to you. That's asking too much, it isn't a fair fight, and you aren't really open to learning anything.
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So you're not surprised more people aren't as humble as you.
If that's what you want to take from that, you're free to.
The point is, going into a discussion as "I've already made my mind up and considered all the angles so I will never change my mind" without acknowledging that you don't.actually.know all the angles is a pretty self-important perspective. I have come from that perspective before and I am actively working on changing it to one of humility, to one of accepting that other people have something to teach me. I am not surprised that so many people are not humble enough to do that. I *am* proud of myself for moving in that direction, even though it feels unnatural, and I think it's worth being proud of.
I don't think this is an actual question, though, is it?
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I think about all the compromises the U.S.'s founding fathers and initial colonies made, and it saddens me even further to see what we've become. Granted, they had their own issues. I'm not saying we need to go back to the way it was in the 18th-19th centuries! Just saying they knew how to compromise and come to an agreement, and I wish we could remember that instead of glorified accounts of rebellion against [insert perceived oppression here].
Like the 3/5 compromise?
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Yes.
Hearing from people who shared their raw, personal experiences (that are often really hard to hear since they can come from places of deep pain) with things that I thought I had an informed opinion on has been a gift - I had to be humble, open, and willing to accept it though. It is so difficult to do this, though, that I'm not surprised more people don't do it. It's hard to realize that views that I once held, and fought for, were responsible for other people's pain.
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We aren't supposed to discuss any of it, it's TOO SOON.
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We can't talk about it, it's too soon.
Thoughts and prayers. Waiting for Jesus.
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Your example is extreme, but the premise isn't unusual from my experience. My SIL teaches in the inner-city public schools and she spends a lot of her own money on things that should really be covered by the district. No, nobody technically tells her she has to pay for it herself, but they are things required for her to teach her students and they refuse to pay for it. So, she pays for it so she can teach her students - i.e. do her job.
I didn't know until my oldest was in K that the teachers - at least in my state - have to supply their own classroom books. Which I guess isn't that big of a deal since the teacher owns them and then can take them back when they move, but it would be quite a burden for teachers that move to a different grade level. I know several teachers who have taught several grades and they don't really get to choose.
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My sister and family are very near the Creek Fire. Not evacuated yet but she is prepared to.
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Do what you want, leave the rest with no guilt.
Like I always say to my kids, "I am not your cruise director."
I decorate as much as I want every year - which is a lot less than most people I know. I used to not decorate at all outside but my kids wanted to. So they told me what they wanted and I put it on my list, bought the lights they requested after Xmas and they started decorating the following year and have every year since. Done. It isn't like the Jones's - the conifer right outside the front door is very Charlie-Brown-Xmas but we love it & the neighbors even comment how much they like it.
I do stockings on Sv Mikulas because I want to.
I may or may not make a traditional Xmas Eve meal. I started collecting fabric bags to use & re-use every year so I don't need to wrap presents. Sometimes I've even used pillowcases.
I decided that Xmas cards were too stressful so I stopped. DH wanted to continue, so he now does it himself.
Done. Xmas is not just about everyone else - I'm part of it too. My role is not just to make everyone else happy.
And I get to focus on the parts that feed *my* soul - the relaxed family time, the music, the spiritual new beginning, the choosing of gifts for my loved ones.
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We tend to store ours all over the floor. Every now and then, a good fairy comes and puts the hats, scarves, and gloves in a basket in the entryway. Sometimes she also puts the coats on the hooks in the entryway.
Yeah, I think our fairy quit. lol
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I've tried different setups for several years and nothing really works that well. This year I've got more room since I no longer need to use the front closet for anything homeschool realated (kids are all in PS). So I'm hopeful that this will be the year.
What do you use to store all your hats, gloves, etc? There are six of us with many items per person.
Do people really not understand how the world works?
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Informing someone of a rent increase is not the same thing as a veiled threat to vote against a bond.
Why can people not understand that different words mean different things?