8circles
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It isn't a feeling at all. It's what I need to satisfy that part of me that needs to be loved in a way that no human being is capable of doing.
God's love for me has to exist because I would die without it.
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22 hours ago, StellaM said:
But what is the facility ? Not enough info. Is this a library ? Who is the organiser - the facility or the leader of the Christian group ?
If it's just an event for Christian homeschoolers, by invitation, and it's in a private facility....I still don't see the problem. There's Christian homeschool conferences here - I just don't go to them. Why would I ? I'm sure they are lots of fun, but I'm not the target market.
Xian and gay are not mutually exclusive.
Xian and being part of a secular group are not mutually exclusive.
The OP is Xian as are several other members of their secular group.
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I would love to travel that way alone - and the other people wouldn't bother me unless they were really needy but I imagine that would be rare.
It would not be as comfortable travelling around "other people" with my DH or children along. I guess I feel more comfortable and able to not be an intrusion if it's just my own introverted self.
I don't know how I'd feel if it were my kids - I'm not there yet and only have boys.
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I have all my kids in public schools this year for the first time. I have 4 between 2nd grade and 9th.
It's been an adjustment. I was over the hurt part of it before school began in the fall. We are all happy with how it has turned out, even though there are things that are less than ideal and difficult. Homeschooling wasn't perfect either.
Best of luck to all of you. It will be OK.
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Quite frankly I would have been happy if he had just picked a bunch of flowers.
I have actually found this thread very depressing. I know everyone has been doing exactly what I asked, giving me good advice. But it has raised so so many negative thoughts.
Melissa, I hope you're able to do something good for yourself today. I'm so sorry that this has been so hurtful.
Ditto what Rosie said.
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What you've described is not OK with me and I would have a hard time balancing saying something and respecting my child's wishes. I understand that could make things awkward/difficult having 2 classes with this yahoo. Someone who would speak to kids under his care in this way is not someone I would be able to trust to react professionally to a parent complaint.
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I’m thankful there are not many ocassions when I need to give her a gift.
I would not get her gifts anymore. At all.
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You've been married to this guy for 25 years. He doesn't know that you'd like some acknowledgement on your 25th anniversary? He doesn't notice that you're crying and if he does, he won't respect you? You can't tell him you're hurt because it would be an argument?
I'm truly sorry if this is your situation. You deserve better from your life partner.
Do whatever you need to do to help yourself deal with this.
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I don't generally care about gift-giving and am not into jewelry. But you should go out and buy yourself whatever you'd like and not have an ounce of guilt or negativity about it.
Is your DH always such an ass?
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You did a good thing. You are doing a good thing. You will do good things. :001_smile:
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ETA: Google brought this to me.........still in the process of reading it
https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1106&context=clrj
Right.
We're damned if we do & damned if we don't.
Either way, we're forced to live with massive amounts of guns in a country with massive amounts of gun violence and TPTB are doing everything they can to keep it that way.
Because *that*'s helpful & REALLY damn healthy.
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Wow really? They actually have kids practice barricading the door with furniture? Interesting! Yeah, I don't recall ever having seen that. And again, there's absolutely nothing more to that statement than what I typed. No doubt that it happens, no implication that someone is making anything up, nothing like that. It's not something I have seen. That's all.
I am curious how many schools do that sort of drill in place of, or in addition to a lock down drill. (again, nothing behind that statement, it means what it says.)
Yes, really.
These are my own children & their schools. It varies by school district so I don't know how common it is.
My 14 year-old's job is to barricade the door with a bookshelf.
My 7 year-old worries that there aren't enough hiding places in the classroom. He's right, there aren't.
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Oh no, I am not saying that I doubt they hold them at all. I am only saying exactly what I said.....I have *heard* of them, but I have never known a school to do it. Of course I know schools hold them.
The schools I have experience with hold "lock down" drills. I assume the procedure is the same, it's only the name that's different. Is that correct?
No. A lock down drill is simply a lock down. Classrooms locked. Hallways cleared (get in the nearest classroom).
Active shooter drills involve lock down and hiding within the classroom (or closet w/in classroom) or going out the window (this is only discussed and not practiced yet). Barricading the door with furniture. etc.
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You know, I have *heard* of active shooter drills, but never actually known a school to hold them.
I HAVE known schools to hold "lock down" drills, but I also know that a lock down could happen for a lot of reasons.
For clarification, are you doubting that schools do active shooter drills?
I can tell you that they most certainly do. Elementary, Middle, and High Schools. Of course, you're still only hearing about it so you still don't actually *know*.
But *I* KNOW. Schools do, in fact, hold active shooter drills.
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I have tried it in the past. It didn't do anything.
Plus, it tastes like hell! LOL
yeah, it's nasty. I mix it with water to dilute & chug it.
I have barrett's esophagus so it's worth doing even just for the soothing properties.
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I also take meds for this. Zantac works the best for me.
Have you tried aloe juice when you start to wean off the meds? It helps to calm & soothe my stomach.
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I've never heard the word "gross" used to mean messy and painful and challenging. I don't see that definition anywhere but maybe I don't know the latest dictionaries.
We can discuss just about anything, but if we aren't interested in being sensitive to people's feelings and situations, when we know that there are people in the discussion who have personal experience with these things, then that says something about our character.
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I'm not reading into what you said. I'm responding to your actual words.
Im out of likes so consider all your posts liked.
thanks for putting yourself out there and sharing.
im so sorry that people are so hurtful and arent able to apologize and see the hurt they cause. hugs.
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I was in Myrtle Beach with 2 of my very dearest girlfriends from my growing up years. We were sitting at a seafood restaurant trying to decide what to do with our day. The food took forever to get to us, so one of my friends (who is more outgoing with strangers than I am) struck up a conversation with the older two couples sitting at the table next to us. They were probably mid-70s.
Anway, they told us they were in town for a Gaither concert. I think we scared them because ALL 3 of us squealed in delight and exclaimed at the same time, "They GAITHERS are in town?"
We all grew up with the Gaithers' music in our homes.
They then told us that another two couples had planned to come along but couldn't because of health issues, and wondered if we would like their tickets to come for that evening's performance.
I think they were so happy to have someone use the tickets. We sat with them since the tickets had assigned seats, and we all sang along and had the best evening with new found friends.
I am quite sure we were the youngest there!
Oh, what a great story! LOVE IT.
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Quoting is not working for me right now, so....
8circles....I started to love the old gospel songs because of his TV crusades. The Gaithers? Much more peppy and fun than the slow paced organ backed hymns we sang in the Presbyterian church. When I finally went to a church with contemporary worship, I was so so happy. Unfortunately, the church of my youth didn't get a contemporary service until years after I left.
Oh, the Gaithers... Not really my thing anymore but they feed me like comfort food sometimes. My parents still spend hours watching their concerts. I knew that DH was a keeper when he could spend all day with my parents, listening to the Gaithers, and not lose his mind.
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To me the most offensive thing about him was his ugly, vicious anti-Semitism. That he claimed regret when caught (after denying he had ever spoken that way) did not make me feel safer or more respected as a Jew around his admirers.
Much less visceral is my offense at his approach to 'sharing the word'. I have great respect for many Christians and how they embody and share their faith, but none at all for the patronizing, saccharine, (in my eyes) false production I saw from him and his ilk.I
It is distressing to have the negative feelings share here dismissed as anti-Christian when they have been clearly naming specifics that are not true of Christianity as a whole. (That distress is the only reason I am posting here. I understand that what looks large to me is trivial to those more in alignment with his less offensive qualities and I am very sorry for your loss.)
Eliana, I think you've explained it very well and I share this view as well, even as a xian, when I actually think about who he was.
I don't think you've been disrespectful and I don't hear criticism of xianity. Thank you for sharing your perspective.
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I think we are misunderstanding each other.
I wasn't making an accusation rather an observation- that, to me, is indicative of a larger dynamic. And yes, I'm probably being clumsy in my speech.
As someone said upthread, "It appears the most offensive thing about Billy Graham was that he was a Christian". That was what I was trying to touch on....
For an unchristian person, I would expect that Billy Graham said a lot of things that were offensive. Why? Because, if you don't believe in the Bible, there are about 1001 potentially offensive things that are taught. Creation. Original Sin. Sacrifice. Laws/Commandments. Forgiveness. Atonement. Miracles. The Holy Spirit.
But if Billy Graham was simply preaching the Bible, then people's issues are really more with broad Christianity and with God- not so much the preacher man. As in 'don't blame the messenger'.
That's all.
It's ok. It really is. I'm not upset or remotely looking for a fight and think some might be misreading my tone a bit. And that's ok. Things have been tense in our world and we are all a bit fraught.
Another reason why, I'll miss Billy Graham.
Umsami is not a Xian. You cannot expect her to use the proper lingo to fit your worldview/religion. Biblical has more than one meaning. 1) it is in the Bible. 2) it's what the Bible says/means.
If you read the words of someone who is not a xian without graciousness to understand what they are actually saying it comes across as a "gotcha". That's what it sounded like to me. Umsami was not making a statement about xianity, but about BG.
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I think you misunderstood my post. I was not commentating on or interpreting anything. Neither the Bible or Billy Grahams teachings. Or my own personal beliefs.
then your accusation to umsami doesn't make sense.
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I have good memories of BG, watching him on TV as a kid. Just as I am is very comforting to me because of that.
I think he did a lot of good and he tried to do his part in God's Will. He was sometimes wrong, very wrong. He acknowledged a lot of those wrongs and I give him credit for that.
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If you have a sense that God loves you, how do you perceive that?
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The bolded - I think it's way more complex than what this question implies.
There are many levels of the Bible being "true". It is also an entirely separate question than God speaking. I understand that there are people to whom it is very black & white & simple but it is not that way for everyone.