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Just now, DawnM said:
Gotcha. Yeah, true. Our foster son can automatically gets 80% off any NC state college. Unfortunately, it doesn't touch fees, which are almost as much as tuition these days.
My son is planning (after next year) to attend a school where his ethnicity isn't well represented and they are trying to be more diverse, so we are hoping he gets some sort of incentive to attend.
Fees are killer man. It’s frustrating. My sons favored school has the highest fees in the state.
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7 minutes ago, DawnM said:
What do you mean, "especially if that school is within driving distance?" You got a full ride for room and board, why would being within driving distance matter?
I did yes, but it makes it easier on a lesser scholarship if you don’t need that.
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5 minutes ago, DawnM said:
Whoah! That is awesome.
I think a lot of things are possible if you’re willing to go to a university that other people snub their noses at a bit. Or a satellite campus of a larger school. Especially if that school is within driving distance.
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You could eat dinner in shifts and do a snack later together on busy nights.
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A lot depends on the university. A smaller unranked college is going to be less competitive. My brother and I both got full ride scholarships, tuition, fees, room and board, he even got a small stipend on top of that. We had decent stats but not top notch, nothing “impressive”. We went to an unknown smaller state school in a smaller state. It was 20 min from home so it was perfect. Neither of us could have gotten into Harvard. That school now does cap the tuition and fees part, essentially freezing it at the freshman year levels, so as tuition goes up yearly you have to pay the difference, so not quite as good, but darn good, especially because it’s a relatively inexpensive school to begin with.
ETA:both of our scholarships were automatically given based on SAT score, every single applicant with those (not stellar!) score for a full ride, the next category was 3/4, the. 1/2, then 1/4. It’s still set up mostly like that.
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7 minutes ago, Frances said:
For things like math I think it can be very good, since so many elementary school teachers lack the necessary math sense and ability to teach math effectively. I think lots of larger elementary schools use teams of teachers for each grade, so every child benefits from the most skilled teacher for a particular subject and has other teachers invested in them, while still having a primary teacher.
I didn’t mean weird as in bad, just as in not my experience, feels odd to me. It’s probably a good idea, I’m just surprised every time I’m reminded it’s a thing.
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4 minutes ago, Condessa said:
Yeah, my extremely liberal family member called me a racist for expressing this position, and asserted that basically anything right of open borders was just an excuse for anti-latino racism.
#notallliberals. (Are hashtags still a thing?).
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9 minutes ago, Danae said:
Since when is third grade divided into separate classes for separate subjects?
Some schools do that as early as first. I think it’s weird, and I’m surprised every time I hear it.
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NM. Suffice it to say: Pretty much every contemporary social theory was influenced in some way by Marx. He was *influential* that’s what it means.
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20 minutes ago, TechWife said:
This one puzzled me for a bit, too! The meritocracy and color blindness go together. If I understand correctly, CRT sees the narrative that in the US, we are a meritocracy and everyone has equal opportunity to succeed in any scenario regardless of the color of their skin as a false narrative. This is because our history has shown this to be false and because there are past and present barriers to success that are present for black and brown people that aren’t present or have a disproportionate impact. One example that I learned about recently is that houses in a predominantly black or brown neighborhood appraise and sell for lower amounts than a comparable house in a predominantly white neighborhood in the same city. This impacts not only physical mobility, but also the ability to build personal and generational wealth as houses are the largest investment that the majority of people will make in our country. This practice is neither colorblind nor based on merit. Another example is in the criminal justice system where white people receive shorter sentences and lower fines for the same criminal convictions with the same characteristics than people of color receive. This is neither color blind nor based on the merits of the case at hand. In addition to impacting wealth, this has a destabilizing effect on families and the wider community and psychosocial consequences as well.
I’ve been reading about the history of race in the US over the past five years or so and I still feel like I’m in kindergarten with the subject. The history is both deep and wide and has so very many implications.
This is very much how I understand it. It’s not necessarily about individual people being racist but about the structural road blocks put up for black and brown people that most white peoples are just blissfully unaware of.
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3 minutes ago, LucyStoner said:
No, CRT is an theoretical framework. The name CRT comes from the people who have advanced it in academic and activist circles, not from people who are mad about it. Somethings probably get folded into that umbrella but it’s not a fancy name applied only by its detractors.
Is this poor teaching actually an example of CRT though? Would an academic teaching in the sociology department of a university recognize this as under that umbrella?
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2 minutes ago, LucyStoner said:
Feeling like you have to share this information in a group setting can also be very hard, even hurtful especially when you are a kid living on the margins. Being asked to address your trauma in the context of a classroom or training when you have been seriously traumatized is a really shitty experience (and I speak from personal experience on that).
I feel like English classes used to be bad about that, maybe still are. School should not be therapy and history/English class are not group therapy sessions. Is this a weird thing they’re learning in teacher college?
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4 minutes ago, Plum said:
That's the same problem these schools seem to be having with teaching it. It's all over the map but I'm seeing the same themes. You are either privileged or an oppressor based on where you land on the wheel of power.
What are kids supposed to get out of this?
It kind of seems like the dark side of having college kids take classes from different departments to be “well rounded”. A bunch of teachers took the sociology class for a humanities requirement and now they think they can teach complex theories. I have a major in sociology and barely feel qualified to talk on a message board about it. It really is one of those subjects where the more you learn the more you realize how much more there is to learn. A lesson it seems like these teachers might have missed in the intro class.
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So people are mad about this odd race stuff and are calling it critical race theory so it sounds fancy, with no regard to what critical race theory actually is or whether or not this racial teaching fits in with it?
ETA:this makes conversation almost impossible because we’re meaning several different things at the same time and everyone is talking past each other.
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19 minutes ago, Condessa said:
Here’s a link to the mother’s address to the school board, if anyone wants to engage in the discussion topic without the connection to Fox News:
I think the issue is that a parent complaining about something like this is not really evidence, wether the video comes from FoxNews or not. I would like pictures from the curriculum, video or something from the classroom, some objective thing to look at besides a parents opinion, or even a teachers opinion. I’d like to see the troublesome requirements in writing some how. All this video tells me is parents are unhappy. Parents are unhappy about lots of things, some I agree with, some I don’t. That a parent is unhappy is not evidence by itself of something being wrong
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19 minutes ago, Plum said:
Is the 1619 Project considered CRT? That was being taught in 4500 schools according to one article from June 2020.
I know my state just passed a bill requiring additional multicultural subjects to be taught K-12 that includes Black, AAPI (we’re the 9th island) and LGBTQ along with civics. If I put 2 and 2 together I’d say that equals CRT. 🤷🏻♀️
ETA If it is Newsweek says all of the Chicago Public School system was teaching it.
It probably is by the people who are upset about it. I’m not sure if it should be, one way or the other.
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Are any of these schools regular public schools? I’m seeing private schools, charter schools, no public schools. I know chatter schools are technically public but they do all kinds of things that would never work in a regular public school.
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A sports bra under can give you support.
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59 minutes ago, Laurie said:
My understanding is that you have to begin by first understanding what is meant by Critical Theory.
I found a course description from a Philosophy department about Marx and Critical Theory. https://www.amherst.edu/academiclife/departments/courses/1314S/PHIL/PHIL-366-1314S
I think this is why crt in the classroom is concerning to conservative parents...because marxism is at the core.
That’s not even close.
A critical theory is ANY theory critical of another theory, as opposed to a stand alone theory. From your own link “ A "critical theory" has a distinctive aim: to unmask the ideology falsely justifying some form of social or economic oppression—to reveal it as ideology“Marx’s theory is a theory that is critical of capitalism. ….That does not mean that every critical theory is somehow Communists and bad. That class is simple a view of Marx through the lense of his theory being a critical theory. Meaning you can’t study Marx without studying capitalism. Also from your link …” Any prospects for change, reform, or for Marx, revolution requires first that people come to see capitalism for what it is“. You can’t criticize (in the academic critical thinking sense) what you do not understand.
Du Bois is credited with thinking up CRT and the thing he was criticizing was the idea that race is biological and black people were inferior. He believed race was socially constructed not a biological fact. He is criticizing that view, and rightly so.
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2 hours ago, pinball said:
And what came of it?
It’s usually a tiny “cost of doing business” fine. The workers often get deported, or at least set on that course. It’s a big ole nothing burger that impacts the workers more than the employers.
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What Fox News says is “critical race theory” is not at all what I learned about in my sociology classes (sociology major). We learned that race is a social construct. It comes from the study of law and the way “racism is built into and reproduced through institutions that organize every day life, particularly the law”. Seems a rather sensible thing to study and an odd thing to be mad about today, since it’s been around since the 70s. It’s not even specifically about people being racist, it’s more about ways that systems are set up in a way that negatively impacts POC, often inadvertently but sometime purposefully. That just plain doesn’t feel controversial.
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I am so disappointed I’m not in an area that is having them.
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1 hour ago, Lucy the Valiant said:
Was coming here to share this - info matches the info out of UK's initial study and Israel's expanded study (Israel DID test for antibodies before mass vaccination).
Now it's time for companies / schools / establishments in the USA need to update vaccine / mask requirements for the thousands and thousands who have already had covid. $.02
Where I am the mask mandate has been lifted so masks are only suggested for non vaccinated people, but not required and there is no enforcement. The schools will be unmasked next school year. I can’t think of any thing that could be updated to improve that. Is it different where you are?
The library still wants everyone masked, which is weird but 🤷♀️. And doctors offices, I think.
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I solved this somewhat by relistening to podcasts from that podcasts main feed instead of my “up next feed”. Hardcore History is good for that because they are 4 hours each. 99% Invisible or the People’s Pharmacy are the others I cycle through.
Mom in Va. who lived through Cultural Revolution addresses school board regarding Critical Race Theory
in The Chat Board
Posted · Edited by HeartString
Real estate…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/4936571001
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/mortgage-discrimination-black-and-latino-paying-millions-more-in-interest-study-shows/
Voting …
(Edit)Gun permits are acceptable ID but not tribal cards. Make that make sense.
Why do black people need to bring water to vote in the first place? Fewer polling places.
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/02/texas-polling-sites-closures-voting
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1774221002
Counties with larger minority populations – most of them the urban centers of large metropolitan areas – were left with fewer polling sites and poll workers per active voter,
schools…
Minority school get $23 BILLION less in funding yearly.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1774221002
The researchers at EdBuild calculated that racially concentrated non-white districts receive, on average, only $11,682 of funding per student, in comparison to $13,908 for racially concentrated, white districts. Collectively, this means that, as EdBuild notes, "nonwhite school districts receive $23 billion less than white districts, despite serving the same number of students."
At some point enough “coincidences” add up to something more.