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  1. I don't know which is more accurate, but I know on Realtor they have a graph that shows 3 or 4 different analysis, which show that particular house value over a period of several months or years. I'd rather use a figure that was an aggregate of several analyses than just one.

  2. 19 hours ago, KSera said:

    Would it be better for people not to be vaccinated and the deaths to double? I don’t understand the goal. 

    At some point I think I think we have to acknowledge that this is the goal for some.  There are people for whom the goal really is to stop the vaccine and let deaths do what they do. 

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  3. 34 minutes ago, Carrie12345 said:

    Seriously. It’s like saying drunk driving doesn’t matter because deer jump into the road all the time. Let’s just abdicate all personal responsibility from everything, cuz we’re all gonna die some day!

    While at the same time calling it personal responsibility just to gas light everyone.  🤦‍♀️

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  4. 3 hours ago, Frances said:

    If only people were consulting MDs to make the decision. Even on this board, I don’t recall one person who hasn’t been vaccinated saying it’s because they consulted with their doctor and we’re advised against it. Now I freely admit I may have missed it. I do recall several people saying they consulted with their doctor and were advised to do it, and often given additional guidance on how to protect themselves. Certainly nothing I’ve read or seen or heard anywhere, including IRL, points to the majority of unvaccinated having consulted a doctor and been advised against it.

    And I don’t think anyone here has expressed being for mandates for US citizens but against mandates for undocumented immigrants. Are they even currently being offered vaccines and turning them down in droves like citizens are in many  places in the US? If not, then perhaps a good place to start is by actually offering them the vaccines along with consultations with health care professionals who speak their languages.

    I know 1 person who was advised to wait to get the vaccine. After a few months of something improving in blood work (I don’t remember what) they were advised that to go get it and did.  But that was only 1 person out of dozens.  

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  5. The one person I know who was advised to wait on the vaccine was not interested in being cautious.  Never locked down, still did gatherings, only masked when absolutely required, even though there were many risk factors that would have made a bad outcome likely in the case of catching COVID.   Several  family members are at high risk for poor outcomes if they got COVID, but they aren’t interested in being safe or getting the vaccine.   It’s a Russian roulette mentality mixed with YouTube expertise that makes them think this is all over blown.  

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  6. I just had a friend ask on Facebook for where to get the COVID shot.  She said she had procrastinated long enough and needed to just get it done already.  So that was interesting.  Access where we are is easy, but she has 3 kids under 3 and doing anything at all is complicated. She can get it done, but it will take effort and coordination and I guess she’s just been putting off.  

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  7. I can think of 3 people I know who aren’t yet vaccinated but either plan to get it, or aren’t against it.  
    1 had Covid and doesn’t think he needs the vaccine  He’s waiting for more definitive info showing one way or the other.   Doesn’t mask, always thought masks were stupid.

     
    1 is not comfortable getting the vaccine while pregnant but plans to get it once the baby is born.  Still masks. 


    1 was waiting for her doctors to say she was healthy enough to get it.  She actually just got the ok and got her first shot.  Stopped wearing a mask prior to getting vaccinated.  
     

    I can think of 10 people easily that have no plan to get vaccinated, think it’s “drinking the kool aid”, dangerous, “only for sheeple”, etc. etc.  All of them only masked when required, never did the distancing, and have all stopped masking entirely.  
     

    So I know 1 unvaccinated person who is still masking and at least 12 who are unvaccinated and are out there unmasked without a care.  

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  8. 7 hours ago, Plum said:

    Not everyone who is unvaccinated thinks those things. There’s a multitude of reasons people aren’t getting vaccinated from access to health reasons to waiting for approval and none of those have to do with politics.
     

    I know it’s easier to think everyone who hasn’t gotten it yet is selfish or ignorant but there’s a good portion that have given this considerable thought and are facing ridicule and shame from their fellow citizens. There are people who haven’t gotten the vaccine yet and still don’t go out and always wear a mask. They do exist. I’m sorry if you haven’t met any but they do. 

    In the part where you quoted me I specifically said “those who are against the vaccine” not “all unvaccinated”.  If someone is waiting for full approval, or waiting for a good time to get off work, or waiting until they deliver a baby, I wouldn’t consider those people to be against the vaccine, they are just not yet vaccinated.  Those who are rabidly against the vaccine are a different group.   I do know some of the “not yet vaccinated” who are still masking and being safe.  But they pale in comparison to the number of people that I know who are rabidly against the vaccine, are done with masks, think the whole thing was a hoax anyway and are back to life as usual.   Pretending those people don’t exists doesn’t make any sense.   

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  9. 11 hours ago, Plum said:

    ght, there is absolutely no one in the world that both sides will listen to so lets keep Fauci. 

    I don’t know or care about keeping Fauci or not, but yes, there is no one on the planet that both sides will listen too. And if such a person existed it would take 1 news cycle for that person to be excoriated  the minute he or she started saying hey, ya’ll get the darn vaccine already.  Mr. Rogers, Dolly Parton, Kermit the Frog.  As soon as they said Covid is real and the vaccine is good they would become Fauci 2.0 in a heartbeat.  It’s not the messenger, it’s the message.  Those against the vaccine do not want to hear that it’s safe and effective.  They want to hear their own opinion, that it causes infertility and kills people, and isn’t needed bc Covid is a hoax, come out of the mouth of a National public health official.  

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  10. 17 minutes ago, Plum said:

    It's not just the US, there is a vaccine divide in the world as well. Just look at the protests in France, the UK and NSW. 

    I don't see how this all ends. Say all of America gets 100% vaccinated while the rest of the world lags behind and creates more variants. All the while our immunity wanes and we have to get boosters that the rest of the world won't have access to. The vaccinated still seem to be transmitting Delta which means more spread which means more variants. It doesn't seem like a good idea to create this divide through mandate, shame and blame when we aren't really eliminating this and we're are not shutting our borders anytime soon. 

    If we were really interested in closing the divide, we should stop trying to control other people. We aren't going to get down to zero cases. That's an unrealistic goal.

    Instead, we should be focusing on transparency. We should track ALL breakthrough infections and take an honest look at ALL reactions. We should encourage widespread testing for anyone who wants it, not just the symptomatic. We should be developing or repurposing cheap over the counter treatments that could be widely available to all countries. What incentives does big pharma have to end this?

    If they really wanted to bridge the divide, they'd have Fauci step down from the public for awhile and bring someone else out that both sides trust and listen to. There's a chunk of the remaining unvaccinated population that isn't going to believe anything that comes out of the current WH or the msm and a new face that has less baggage or is even a moderate to conservative would go a long way. There are a lot of D's that worship him. He's not bringing anything new to the table for them. The big questions is do the holdout unvaccinated trust him? I don't think so. He's not going to convince them to do anything.  

    That is, if they were really interested in bridging the gap. Otherwise, it's all politics and noise. 

    I think you are right, but I also think it’s impossible.  There are too many people that fear the contact tracing as being nefarious. There’s weird religious stuff mixed up in it, with the mark of the beast stuff.  Cooperating with contact tracers is seen as turning people in to the authorities.  I don’t know why so many people are like that, but I don’t think it’s fixable in the short to medium term.

       I also truly do not think there is anyone that could replace Fauci as someone both sides trust, because there is no such person, and if there was, the minute he or she started saying the pro public health things they would be demonized by the same people that hate Fauci.  A living apple pie wrapped in an American flag would be demonized in that position.  
     

    If it were possible for Big Pharma to find a cheap treatment for this, they could always jack the price way up and reap pure profit, like they do with insulin. 

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  11. Close Reads and The Plays the Thing are ones that I like that I think of as homeschool adjacent.  
     

    Arts of Language by Andrew Pudwa

    The Bravewriter podcast. 

    Good Enough Homeschool

    Those are all ones I listen to regularly.  


     

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  12. 12 hours ago, Quill said:

    I don’t think lots of people think CNN is unbiased, though. You can think Fox is awful and still think CNN is too. A couple of the shows on Fox are so biased I can hardly bear to be in a room with it on. But I have also turned off CNN while saying, “Such bologney!”

    Fox News has argued in court that no one takes them seriously.  So there is that.  
     

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

    Now comes the claim that you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander. It worked, by the way.

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  13. 4 minutes ago, happi duck said:

    Vaccines need to be taken up in greater percentages to look like what we tend to picture when we think "vaccine".

    Afaik, there have been measles outbreaks in places where vaccine uptake dropped and so when measles entered the area it had lots of places to " go", kwim?

    That's a really good point.  We have just over 50% of the country vaxed against COVID and only like 1% of the world. The measles and Polio are around 90% of the country.  Pertussis is 80%.  That's just a world of difference.  That's the difference between heard immunity and not. 

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  14. 9 minutes ago, lauraw4321 said:

    This is good to know. For me, it was a reasonable critique of the initial results. Unfortunately I think we’re going to find that number much lower with delta. 
     

    I think that for most people effective = keep you from getting sick. When that metric isn’t even measured it’s harder to understand the value. 
     

    I personally see the value as I’ve had the experience of having flu unvaxxed and vaxxed but pregnant. I barely realized I was sick when I was pregnant but had been vaxxed. Reducing severe disease is a great goal, but I don’t think it’s what most people expect from vaccines. Maybe it’s an unreasonable expectation, but it was certainly mine. I’ve never known someone to get rubella or measles or whooping cough, and in my mind that’s because of vaccines. Yet I don’t expect the flu vaccine to keep me from getting the flu. So it feels like a different category, even though I’m learning that it really isn’t. 
     

     

    The difference there is that rubella and measles are one, discrete virus, where as what we call the flu is a category or family of virus.   There are dozens of flu viruses.  Being vaccinated against 1 gives minimal protection against 2-25. 


    I have learned through all of the COVID stuff that some of the difference  is how fast a virus attacks the body.  The way I heard it explained is that it takes a certain amount of time for the body to spin up an immune response to a virus and it takes each virus a certain amount of time to make you sick.  With measles your immunized body can spin up a response faster than the measles can get a chance to make you sick.  The flu virus is faster at attacking than the measles virus, but your body is still working at the same speed.  So the flu vaccine is just simply not as effective because of the nature of the virus. 

    I think we tend to think of "virus" as one sort of thing, but that's not right.  One virus can be as different from the other as one mammal is from another.  You need a different sort of thing to fight off a squirrel than a hippo, than a killer whale, even though all of those are mammals.  Same with measles and flu, or Covid, or HIV. 

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  15. 7 minutes ago, lauraw4321 said:

    I suppose the difference I’m imagining is that disease prevention is a goal or a measure of the vax efficacy. It wasn’t a goal for the mRNA vaxxes. So I think it’s misleading to say that the vax is “90% effective” or whatever when the effectiveness is measured only by reducing severity of disease. I’m not saying it’s not extremely valuable. I’ve gotten it as has my oldest DD and husband.  But I think there should be more transparency about what a vax does or doesn’t do. Because many people think vax= disease elimination. 

    I think that's a misunderstanding of vaccines.  I can see where that idea might come from, when you have really high vaccination rates it's very similar to having the disease eliminated.  But we've only ever eradicated 1 disease with vaccination, smallpox.  We  keep coming sooo close with polio, but keep missing it.  Vaccines are to prevent serious injury and death, not 100% of infections.  Breakthrough infections still happen, that's a known thing.  My fully vaccinated child got whooping cough for example.  But he survived it and only had what the doctor called a mild case.  Medical definitions for "mild" are different than a lay persons definition, because that was a perfectly miserable couple of weeks and it lingered for months.

     

    ETA:  I think some of the difference is between what vaccines do for an individual and what they do for a community.  For the individual the make it far, far less likely that you will personally get the disease, and nearly eliminate the chance of getting so sick that you die from it if you do.  If a community is fully vaccinated, enough to reach herd immunity, you have very nearly effectively eliminated the disease in that community.  Its a two-fold plan. 

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  16. 5 hours ago, KSera said:

    Am I right to assume that HIPPA means there’s no way an employer would know which employees were costing them more money? We’ve had an expensive year, and it’s one of those things that worries me 😳

    HR knows for the most part. Really expensive stuff usually needs FMLA leave and that requires documentation.  It’s hard to hide a 30 day ICU stay from COVID or time off for heart transplant.  Hippa doesn’t prevent anyone from knowing.  It prevents them from sharing what they know with outside entities.  
     

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  17. 1 hour ago, Scarlett said:

    This part kind of bugs me….how the pendulum swings far and wide with regard to child rearing.,,..

    I get that.  I loved Super Nanny when my oldest was little.  I learned a lot.  Her time out method worked perfectly for my younger son.  Now apparently her time out method is seen as separating the child from the parent too much? Or something? Which, I can kind of see, a little bit, because her time out method was a quick failure with my youngest who is anxious and has separation issues despite being a perfect fit for her brother.  But I hate throwing the baby out with the bath water.   Super Nanny style timeouts, along with her emphasis on connection and fun outside of those times are soo much better than spanking or yelling or holding arms up. It probably doesn’t work for all kids, but ugh, I don’t see that as a reason to throw the whole thing out.  

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  18. 14 minutes ago, KungFuPanda said:

    I love the ouidad products.  I like their curl cream, their shampoo, and especially the heat and humidity control gel.  That gel changed my life.  I get the light one.  It doesn't really have hold and it doesn't make your hair crunchy, it just GREATLY reduces the frizz factor.  A Dennman brush is a nice tool too. It smooths out the hair and evenly distributes the products to keep your curls smoother.  For my hair, a diffuser is essential if I want the hair to curl at the roots.  My hair is so baby fine that the weight of the water will flatten the roots if I don't diffuse.  I use the Black Orchid diffuser from amazon at home and just a sock diffuser when I travel.  I haven't purchased a microfiber towel yet and I just use a t-shirt to wrap my head out of the shower.  I also have yet to purchase a silk or satin pillowcase, but I should probably do that next.  

    Thank you!  That's interesting about the diffuser, I never understood the point of those, that's helpful.

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