I can understand some of your points, but I do believe you are giving pornography a lot more credit than it deserves.

I have done the same and don't consider it banning. Imo, a book I own is mine to share or not share, for whatever reason. That's not the same as obliterating it (altho' I must confess it would not upset me to see the ezzo and pearl books and their ilk disappear from print.) Very good post, btw. :)

Exactly! Now if we could only apply this concept to other issues of conflict... :)

Sad, but not surprising. Basic manners are sorely lacking in our society. If someone does do another a good turn, they often aren't even thanked; I can't tell you how many times my son has held a door, and had people swish by him and not even nod.

This is so true. People who are confident in their faith do not fear others, most especially little Hindu girls. :)

Thanks for clarifying. I appear to have upset someone, however, with my sincerely posed question. :)

Boy, ain't that the truth!

Not trying to be snarky, but what if these two are mutually exclusive? I've seen it happen with many children of religious parents. If your child thinks for himself and decides to reject religion, will you feel you have failed or succeeded?

It does become something of a mantra for some, doesn't it?

They're trying to steal her youth. :)

I take what good I can find in each and mix in a little of my own ideas. That said, I'm surprised at all the other others. ETA: ok, not so surprised now that I've actually read the thread.:)

Oh, I'm not taking anything personally. How could I? :) I was speaking in general for many teenaged girls I see who wear t-shirts that cover the body, but are *tight*. Tight and hanging out all over are two very different things. As I said, I wore tight t's and bellbottoms when I was a teen, too, as did my friends and, I'm sure, many on this board. Now, I agree there are items of clothing I find unseemly for young girls to be wearing, but let's do remember we're talking about young girls here. They want to be in style, they DO want to attract boys (whether they go about it in the right way or not is another story), and they are asserting their independence. I will wager there has never been a generation of parents who thought the clothes their teens wore were just great - from the swingy skirts of the flappers to the skin-tight sweaters and push-up bras of the fifties to now. I am simply asking that we show a little compassion and understanding, and leave the derogatory comparisons out of it.

And that's why I prefaced my comment with "some clothing is over the top..." :)

Sounds to me like both you and your husband are "convicted" about being done. That thought came from somewhere. :) Go with whichever form of bc you are comfortable with and which is effective.

You know, this type of comment disturbs me. If you don't want your daughters to wear this type of clothing that's your decision, but it's really inappropriate to compare teens to hookers because they wear tight tee-shirts. Some clothing is over-the-top, but tight tees that cover the body do not a hooker make. I wore them as a teen back in the 70's and managed to avoid going into that particular line of work. I presume my very lovely and intelligent, Abercrombie and Hollister-wearing daughter will as well.