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  1. If we did an experiment where we raised a child in an environment in which they were never exposed to anything bad, according to your "innately good" premise, they would always be good, right?

    Well, according to the majority of fundamental christian responses, that experiment would be impossible because there is no "good" adult, so who would raise the child?

     

    The OP's question will never be able to be debated fully with those who use the bible to support their premise against those who do not believe the bible is to be taken 100% literally. It will (and has) digress into one side "preaching" to the other side. Interjecting quotes to convince is only effective if both sides agree as to the authority of the source. It may surprise some of you to know that some who do not take the bible as an ultimate authority have actually studied it, so the quotes are not unknown, just not accepted as final authority.

    Please also know that a person not accepting the bible as ultimate authority does reflect upon those people who do. I am not against you, I do not want to change you. I do not think you are "bad," nor do I want to stifle honest debate. Just letting you know that using the bible to support an argument may be ineffective.

    <ducking head>

  2. We know our mailman and love him. We have a very long yard (part of 13 acres) and if he sees the dc in the yard, he'll pull over to hand them the mail cuz he knows they like to carry it in. We call him "Mr. Firstname, the mailman" and he's been delivering to us for 8 years now. We'll give him something homemade and a $20 Panarea gift card. We also give the newspaper carrier a giftcard, but just because its a thankless job and I know it doesn't pay much (we never see the newspaper carrier and the newspaper is delivered to a box by the road).

  3. my dc go online to play nickjr.com, pbskids.com, Nova, and other trusted sites, using the "kids computer". I bookmark the sites for them so they can get to them easily. My ds8 also does google searches. We have a parental conrol, spam filter, and firewall, so I'm not overly concerned that he will run across something inappropriate. If he does, I know he'll tallk to me about it, and it will be a good learning experience (for everyone, no doubt).

    ETA: I would not allow internet in his room, b/c I don't want him to isolate himself from the rest of the family.

  4. I make them plain, then let the kids each decorate 4 cookies with non-dairy whipped topping & various sprinkles. Nobody will eat the sprinkle cookies so I won't go through the trouble of making frosting. Everyone in my family prefers to eat plain sugar cookies, but the kids do like to help bake & decorate.

  5. Well, in my state, I *could* teach my dc whatever wacky thing I wanted to, or teach them nothing at all. Nobody checks up on hs'ers in our state. this is incredibly good for most homeschoolers, who want their children to be well-educated, responsible, etc. However, there are a few wackados out there who use homeschooling as an excuse to teach nothing, warp their kids, whatever. I think, though, that these wackados would be warping their kiddos if they were public -schooled, private-schooled or whatever.

    And yes, I know "warped" is in the eye of the beholder, so please don't read this post and think I'm talking about *you* (unless, of course you have named your kid Adolf Hitler or actually do teach that the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it :001_smile:)

  6. Yes indeed. Why not?

     

    I bought my first car at 17yo. It was the only way I could get to school or work. It was not a luxury--it was a true necessity.

     

    I just thought (and maybe some attorneys could chime in) that minors could not legally own real estate or financial assets (thus the Uniform Gifts to Minors Act) or other assets (thus, the Uniform Transfers to Minors Act). These two acts (I believe?) were passed so that minors could "own" things, but were held in trust by parents until the minor turned 18. I do know that any income earned by a minor is not taxed federally for the first $850 and then is taxed, not at the parents' rate but at the lower rate applicable to the child. I may be wrong on the exact dollar amount.

     

  7. We have a payment system for chores, but my dc get paid as soon as the chore is done. for them, having the money right away was more of a motivation than waiting 2 weeks, or whatever. Sometimes if I have a particularly distastefull job that needs to be done, I'll auction it off. For example, this morning it was 10 degrees F and I asked who wants to start the car for 50 cents? Nobody? How about $1?...I would have gone higher because I really, really, really did not want to step out into the cold.

    They made their own banks and the money I give them goes right from my hand, to their hand, to the bank. They put pictures of what they're saving for on the bank, just for extra incentive. At first, they would blow each dollar when it was saved, but now not so much. My ds8 just had me exchange $20 in change for a $20 bill. The bill went back into his bank. I have a deal with them that if they can save $100, I'll match it into a savings account, and then I'll match every $50 after that.

    ETA: Behavior issues are dealt with separately, mainly by taking away screen time, in 5 minute increments for small things. They also earn screen time for good behavior during homeschool (we used to pay for this, too, but it was ineffective for us, the computer is a bigger motivator).

  8. Oh, tibbyl, that is TOO funny....wrong monogrammed towels. Did you use them?

    My MIL to this day misspells my name...mind you I've been with dh over 15 years. She does not misspell it the same way all the time, just never spells it correctly. on. anything. She is very passive-aggressive toward me in many ways and I've learned to see the humor in it.

    ETA: I do not have an unusual or difficult to spell name.

  9. My neighbor girl got her period at 8. She is not a year older than my youngest, and in the third grade. That is why they have the machines in elementary school bathrooms.

     

    Please talk to your DD sooner rather than later.

     

    Another neighbor has 3 DDs, 10, 8 and 7. They are my DDs best friends. But, their mother is extremely uncomfortable with any sort of bodily function. Like, extremely!!She wouldn't tell the kids where there cat went when he got nuetered, or what he had done. A CAT!

     

    Anyway, the misinformation coming from those girls is unbelievable. I was in the laundry room, and overheard the older girl say to my youngest "Zoey101 got pregnant because she kissed a boy for more than 30 seconds." Now, my girls both know that is not how you get pregnant, but also know that's a sensitive topic. My youngest told her she was pretty sure that wasn't true, and the girl got very snotty and told ElastiGirl she was too little to know. Well, that made ElastiGirl a little upset, and she piped up "That is NOT how a girl gets pregnant! What happens is..." and I literally broke the time-space barrier getting in there to stop that conversation!!

     

    My point is, a kid is going to think all sorts of crazy things, and believe everything another 10 year old tells them, unless YOU talk to YOUR child yourself. Whether they are around other children or not, they will think something crazy- heck I was sure reproduction took place through the belly button, what else would it be for?! Not talking about totally natural parts of life (reproduction, puberty, heck pee and poo!) only makes those subjects more uncomfortable. And those are the subjects that in later years, you will want your child to be open with you about. Build the groundwork for that now, at the early ages.

    Well said.

  10. Oh, tibbyl, great question. Very personal, though because revealing why a gift was not liked can say much about the giver and the receiver, yes?

    I got a suitcase & C&W album for xmas one year (from Santa, but I was 16 so I knew it was from my mom). I have never listened to C&W music, and at that point had never really traveled. A suitcase? Really? for a 16 year old girl? My poor mom had a history of buying the wrong gifts. My sister would usually give me a heads up so I could "act" my reaction correctly.

    Funny thing is, as a grandma, she gives my kids the BEST gifts and they look forward to her packages more than anything else.

  11. Thankfully, as an agency nurse I never have to work holidays. For one thing, I can choose my days. For another, facilities don't want to pay time & 1/2 of Agency wages! I did work the day after Thanksgiving and will work the day after xmas, though.

  12. I have already commented that things are talked about normally and naturally and in a way that works for our family. I feel that "comfort pads" is a perfectly natural way of explaining it in the context it was asked. As their mother, I know when my dc are asking for the "whole story" or just wondering off the cuff and need a basic answer, and I'm content in the wisdom God gives me in discerning between the two.

     

    I see, are you from an area of the country where sanitary napkins, maxi pads or tampons are referred to as "comfort pads?" I was not aware that this was a term that was naturally used.

    As other posters have mentioned, the "warning" nature of the original post, and the fact that "tampon" was abbreviated, made me believe there was an unwillingness or inability to share facts with girls who would soon need to be in possession of such facts.

  13. There is no offense taken here. I just find it ironic, hypocritical, and interesting that the very country some people don't like (ie: jamnkats) is the very country they still live in. That is why I was asking her why she lived here.

    Pointing out a flaw does not equal not liking. Admitting fault does not equal being unpatriotic. Prefering the country of one's birth does not equal bashing the country in which one currently resides. Wanting to move back to a beloved spot also does not equal hating a current spot.

  14. Yes. I find many parents, homeschoolers in particular "shelter" kids from biology. I don't believe that knowledge of biology (intercourse, reproduction) is related to "loss of innocence" or "not being a kid" at all.

     

    Indeed, when we got "The Period Talk" in 5th grade by the school nurse, I (fortunately) already knew. But the immediate, stern *silence* the moment a BOY walked into the library on an errand communicated more to me than her whole dissertation about menstruation.

     

    As did my own Mother's weird (and damaging) vibe about the use of tampons for young girls/virgins.

     

    I truly think that children who do not know about mestruation, sex, reproduction, etc are at a far greater risk socially, bodily and in years to come than kids who are intentionally and conscienciously told about reproduction as natural, expected part of family life. I don't wait for my kids to ask about nutrition, molecules, semi-colon use, drugs or how to use tools. Why do sex related topics get different treatment?

     

    Thankfully, my mother was very matter-of-fact with me from a very young age. I did, however, once accuse her of keeping a secret from me because I was sure there must be a way to make a period end quicker. She told me that if she knew a natural way to do that, we'd live a far different life (as in, we'd be rich!).

    And I say "Thankfully" because my body was never a mystery to me, and I always felt comfortable asking her when something was going on because I knew she'd give me a straightforward, factual answer. I'm pretty sure my boys feel the same way about me, since I've gotten some pretty bizzare questions already! One thing I rely on that my mother didn't, though, are all my medical books left over from nursing school.

  15. I don't understand this perspective at all. :confused:

     

    My kids (boys and girls) have known about women's cycles and periods in age understandable terms from......the time they were verbal.

     

    For an 8 year old girl, I can't think of a reason to not be direct and honest. I can think of very many reasons *to* give her (and boys, for that matter) that information.

    I wondered when someone was going to say that....

    I'm glad I'm not alone in treating something natural as...well, natural.

  16. Building a deck. Must figure out distance from wall to one point, and figure out how to level the boards/supports.

     

    Flying

     

    Here's my dh's input: Problems like this establish a way to think critically. With computers, why teach anything? A computer/calculator can do it all for you. But, teaching complex ideas encourages critical thinking and makes the learner (and the teacher) look at problems from many different angles. A certain level of frustration is good for a child....if one is never frustrated, one never reaches the point of satisfaction felt when the veil is finally lifted, the epiphany is reached, and the problem solved!

  17. Congrats Pam....I, for one, truly appreciate the hard work you've done b/c I went through nursing school w/youngsters hanging all over me. You have reason to be proud. Now you can relax for, like TWO MINUTES! Then it's on to stressing about the NCLEX, right?

    Here's a website to help you study

    https://www.ncsbn.org/263.htm

     

    It is an online test prep from the makers of the NCLEX. I used the 3 week subscription, and passed the first time.

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