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Bump! I know (from a previous thread) lots of homeschoolers prefer Ticonderoga pencils. Anyone???
Lisaj
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Where is/are/will be the best prices on Ticonderoga pencils. Online? I like to buy my children pencils in 3 colors.
Anyone know where the best sales are in the next month or so? I wonder if anyone has bought them in past years and has a clue for me?
Thanks, lisaj
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I have plenty too, but it is so fun to buy school supplies at great prices that I managed to buy some really neat things I didn't know I "needed":
--thumb drives for my 14yo & 11yo (sometimes they end up on other computers or when a printer isn't working at their usual shared computer). Very handy!
--Bic hand-held white-out tape dispensers (got one for me for Bible club, one for each of my older kids)
--These large rings for binding 3x5 flash cards (like a large key ring except they latch and unlatch)
--50cent composition books for their AWANA projects - they use it for extra AWANA projects, etc.
--Binder tabs (makes it easy to reuse binders)
--Dry erase markers, can never have too many of these...
Ok, can't think of what else I got that will be greatly appreciated as the year goes on. And that was just the first back-to-school-sale!
lisa j, mom to 5
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Three Cups of Tea by the mountain climber/Pakistan-school-builder
Mortenson (Dan I think is the first name)
great book!
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Tess - And everyone else:
Thanks for serving!
Lisa J, mom to 5
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I am so sorry this happened to you. I get so distracted sometimes shopping with 3-5 young children that I could easily *see* this happening to me.
Because you immediately admitted your mistake, and are a regular customer, I would hope they would give you some slack. It would also be great if you could call on some of the employees who know you have went back in to pay when you've been undercharged OR if you still have those receipts.
Like I said, I could see this happening to me when I am very distracted. I have left stores w/o my purse, without the groceries I bought, etc. I have paid for something I forgot (like a pizza that the deli was preparing and that I paid for up front) and then left hte store w/o it. Last spring, when I was helping run a huge Bible club garage sale, I bought 3 iced coffees but could only carry 2 out with the pop and asst. groceries I was buying to sell at the garage sale. So guess what, I paid for all 3 and forgot to go back in to get the other 2 paid for coffees.
I am so sorry. Pray for wisdom from God and He will provide. He knows your heart!
Lisaj, mom to 5
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I wonder if they make extra large under-office hard plastic carpet protectors. (The kind that makes it easier for chairs to roll on...) Especially in an apt., I hope you can protect the carpet. At my house it is not "if" someone will spill koolaid or spaghetti, it's "when".
lisaj, mom to 5
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My Ford minivan gets 18-20mpg & my husband's car gets 25-30mpg and he frequently carpools is 80mile RT commute. We live 15mi from any shopping and most destinations.
We spend $125 a week and it is driving me crazy! (this does not count my teenager's gas costs - just husband and wife vehicles? We spend only slightly more each week for *food*.
How much do you & your spouse spend for gas each week.
Lisa J
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I would guess the toenail is in the process of coming off. I would agree with your guess as to what the doctor would say?
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Exactly how exclusive/inclusive both Jesus and Christianity itself is would make an interesting discussion .... For another thread. ;)
I agree with Heather in NC. The Bible contains hundreds of verses that we would say are "exclusivity":
"be innocent regarding evil, and wise concerning good."
"bad company corrupts good character".
"not associating with the immoral brother"
"a severe punishment to the one who leads a child astray" (away from faith)
Yes, Jesus was also "inclusive". Tax collectors, sinners, lepers, etc. But he was inclusive to *love and instruct/convert*. He didn't go to the Garden of Gethsemane with the unbelievers; he didn't go out to fish with them, he didn't go out into the boat to get away from the crowd with unbelievers. The disciples were Jesus' students and his closest friends. This was an extremely inclusive group - and you had to profess faith to belong.
The Yellows can be *exclusive* in their group activities and still be *inclusive* in every other area of their lives.
LisaJ,
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One of the reasons the kids are getting their shots earlier is that the older they get, the harder time the docs have getting them in to the office for the shots. It really irritates me, but that's why the MMR (which we don't do as it originally was grown in fetal tissue) MMR booster is given during the elementary years now. It used to be jr. high (actually possibly even 14yo high school age.)
So much of vaccination is *not* about health, but about engineering public policy.
Fyi, we do most vaccinations.
Lisaj
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Secretariat
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May not be a popular remedy, but I had thrush with my firstborn, which added to FTT problems. Dr. thought it was just sore ni**les.
Anyway, OB prescribed tylenol with codeine & that was very helpful to help me get thru the unbelievable pain Baby was screaming while I got the courage up to have baby latch on. My dh thought I was evil - but the pain was so intense, I had to work up a 5-10 seconds before I could let the baby latch on (I was anticipating the pain & cringing and just getting up the nerve to nurse because it was so horribly painful.)
I was pretty all natural like then, and didn't want to take anything but it was so unbearably painful to latch on and then nurse. This was after a few weeks and the doctor misdiagnosing me.
The only other advice is for her to go immed. to a midwife to get some help to help her work thru this terrible time to *keep* nursing. Totally support and praise her for working thru this. Superhuman effort required!
Lisaj
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:iagree: Six months later neither of them had saved a dime, neither had a car, and neither had any plans. So, adios girls!
They hissed and spit, but they did move their things in with a friend who wanted to help them out since we were so mean. Of course that did not end well.....but over time they did learn to accept financial responsibility for themselves and got straightened out. They have made mistakes but no really big ones. They are both married with kids now, and it cracks me up to hear them talk about bargain hunting and comparison shopping. This from the kid with the minimum wage job who needed $200 shoes....... :lol:
I read *all* the responses and wanted to try to address the questions and comments. First an update!
Daughter came home today after work and other than a few whines about her new $12 gas can, a few rolled eyes (mild, not great but not over dramatic) about our "responsible adults do not run out of gas 3x in one week" comments (highway rescue, gas taken from our gas can, today's run-out), she seemed to not be upset in any way about today's gas crisis. (Oh, after she txted me that she was at work and got the gas - I txted her back "I am proud of you for solving your crisis." She txted back, "Thanks?"
Tomorrow is her day off and 19th bday. So then she said to her dad (birthday breakfast tradition with Dad that they had been discussing for a few days...), "Dad, I am not sure I have enough gas to get to town tomorrow for our breakfast. I have a check from Grandma to cash in town, so once I get there I'll have money. Can you drive me to breakfast, then take me back home again, then drive back to town for you (Dad) to go to work?" (Dad had been debriefed on the whole day and he said, "No. We'll just have to wait to go in to breakfast when you have enough gas to get there." Daughter tried to make few mild attempts at acting like "he" was canceling her birthday breakfast. Dad just fired back a rather gruff, "No, you are the one who spent your gas money."
I think she may have learned something.
I want to just really quickly state that things are dramatically improved from the previous 2 years with her. So much better, I can hardly believe it! Personally, I think there are 2 major factors in addition to God's love and grace. 1) She is slowly growing more mature and 2) I have moved out of the line-of-fire by letting her be in charge of her own problems - not me.
So, on to the questions:
1) Car is 20yo and there is no electronic fuel injection or damage to the car being run out of gas. Husband confirmed this and says it isn't bad for car.
2) Yes, daughter has ADHD, diagnosed about age 15. Daughter does not take her meds and hasn't for over a year - tho she has meds and I took her to doctor 10mo ago and got a 2mo supply. Main reason she doesn't take them: she "forgets". At this point, that is her choice - her consequences. Related note, (Mrs. Mungo I think), daughter refuses to get organized other than in little baby steps. I've been harping on this unsuccessfully for 2-3 years!!!
3) I love the Dave Ramsey Teen manual idea. I have another teen or two who would benefit. I will look into it. And may require it as a family summer study.
4) Daughter is *not* teachable right now. It is improving, but all my good advice is not listened to and basically leads to frustration for me. I have incredible wisdom to share (because I have breathed oxygen in-and-out for 49 years - no other reason lol). She chooses not to listen 85% of the time.
5) I am determined not to argue with my daughter if there is a way to avoid it because I have found it worthless. Basically, a baseline of "do not engage"; "every thought need not be spoken"
6) Someone (Tara?) sugg. daughter is far too old to be reminded for chores. I agree. I will try to stop & let the consequences be no car. (Someone else said it is not good to have to keep "grounding" her by taking away the car when she is not doing chores - i.e. chore grounding is for 14-15yos, not 19yos. That has merit, but for now, I am willing to hold the car hostage - because when our relationship, daughter's attitude and everything else is so greatly improved, I don't want to tell her to move out over poor bathroom cleaning. If the poor chore-doing was on top of everything else, maybe. No chores = no car is working fairly well.) I will try to stop reminding!!!
7) I don't intend to have her pay rent. She is going to start paying $100 a month to get out of her chores (which consists solely of a weekly rotation of: kitchen, bathrooms or laundry). This is once again, a way for her & I to live together without the chores being a 3x/day problem. This worked well last summer.) I am not against rent for later or if she is not in school or planning to be in school.
8) I think my daughter's problems over the last year is partially due to immaturity. I will allow her to move out because that is her legal right. I will make her move out if she can't abide the rules. But we would like her to stay at home for a few more years to further help her to gain maturity in a safe, supportive environment. We think her living here is for her best.
9) Joanne's comment about making daughter pay her debts has me perplexed. OTOH, I agree. OTOH, I feel like that is a "separation" where she is an adult who has adult responsibilities - and as long as they don't affect me (altho they could, i.e. collector calls) she can handle them as she sees fit, even tho I don't approve. And just how "much" should our live-at-home agreement include - there's a lot on it already. Personally, I would *love* to see her pay those debts asap - def. before the wasted make up and Starbucks monies. Daughter "intends" to pay them she tells us. So if I *make her pay* her debts & she does because of our requirement, are we just doing more "enabling"? Do I put myself in the line-of-fire as in "I'm going to blame Mom that I have no money because Mom is making me pay these." (Now of course that is not logical - BUT our relationship is much smoother when Daughter can *not* blame me for anything because there is just no link.) I am NOT afraid to be the Parent; I am tired and I find our relationship (& thus my **influence** works much better when I am making nonjudgmental statements like, "So did you say a collection agency called your new boss to garnish your wages? Hmm." (& yes, I have warned her about this very thing; & we did give her a July 1 deadline to call her creditors to set up payment plans - and that is because of the past two blown paychecks.)
10) Thanks for the support on my being calm and reasonable. I was not calm and reasonable so much last year. I was angry and exasperated. A LOT. But there were 3 things some IRL people told me: 1) Daughter's problems are all self-induced; 2) When are you going to quit being surprised at what she does? and from my pastor 2 months ago, 3) When Daughter blames you, say, "So you're right, you don't have any money to live on your own. So how did it get to be that you have no money? (help daughter to see her own decisions forced the situation she is in)
11) Thank you, Rainefox, for telling me she could turn into a mature women some day!!!
12) I totally need to stop reminding my kids of things!! Grr, I say I have OAD - Obsessive Advice Disorder. (Anita Renfroe coined it in an interview after she recorded "I'm the Mom" (great youtube video) Can anybody help me??
So, those who are still with me - thanks so much again. I appreciated all the support and hugs. I needed it. The 40 minutes when I knew she was walking 1/2mile down the highway for gas and back - those were hard on me!
Lisaj, mom to 5
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My 19yo daughter has moved home from a disastrous (academically) first year of college. She broke all our rules which were part of a signed contract for second semester (to have a second chance) in terms of not studying, not turning things in, etc. When she got home in early May, we said (lovingly, nicely) sign this agreement or find another place to live. The last 18mo of you lying to us and treating us disrespectfully are over. We did all this calmly and lovingly. My dh and I had talked it over, prayed. She needed to obey our rules, be respectful, be treated like and adult & act like an adult. She understood fairly well, signed & things have for the most part, been going *extremely* well.
Things are 200% better than last summer. We've told her she breaks the rules, she loses the adult privileges and the car. She can ride her bike to work (20 miles, mostly flat, RT - no highway). She has ridden her bike 3x when we did take the car away for texting while driving & not doing chores - this about 2 weeks ago.
She has siad repeatedly (calmly) she wants to be independent. We've explained what that means. She has a start on money problems already and needs to pay her debts (overdrafts, $300 college bookstore charges (NOT books but sweatshirts, etc.), & $200ish early termination fee for reneging on her cell phone contract.
She got paid one week ago today & spent $150 in 5 days on clothes, make up, Starbucks and fastfood. We encouraged her constantly to save money for gas as she drives a lot.
Last summer, she ran out 4-5x and we gave her money, brought her gas and rescued her every time with continual reminders to plan better, etc. She would run out of gas AT work or AT the lake with us or ON the side of the road where we didn't have a lot of choices but to get the car home (not left out for vandals or getting towed away) with gas we bought.
This get paid/spend all money is an exact replica of last summer...
Here's why I need moral support. We found out she blew thru her paycheck last weekend. (There is no drugs/alcohol problems. Just fast food and clothes and junk food.) After I told her 5x in the past few days not to get in the car & drive to work unless she has enough gas to get there & back. Last night she got $20 bday money in the mail and I reminded her again last night and this morning (& they were my last words to her this morning as she was standing in the garage), along with her assurances to me that she had enough to get to the gas station (7 miles away at the highway).
You guessed it. She ran out of gas about 1/2 mile from the gas station and called me. I told her nicely that she'd be on her own - "you assured me you had enough gas to make it". And I said, "here's what to do: Walk to the gas station, buy a gas can & get gas and walk back to your car and put the gas in." She complained that her $20 would not be enough for the extra expense of a gas can but I told her that was her choice.
Here's background, a week ago yesterday (Tues, June 14), she ran out of gas on the way to work & I took the *full* 5gal can from home & filled her up at the highway. I was kind, nonjudgmental and matter of fact. Later, I told her that was your only "Mom & Dad come save me, I ran out of gas pass" for this summer - and she'd used it up. She was 20min late for work. (a whole 'nother layer to her problems story) When she got paid, she re-filled the home gas can up at my continual reminders.
Then, 2 days ago, w/o permission, she took that gas can and put it all in her car. I only found out because I went looking for that gas can to put the gas in *my* car and found it empty again. I was very upset & I told her so & told her she had no right to use that gas w/o permission because it was for household use (i.e. lawnmowers, etc.) & that it effectively was stealing. I told her she had spent her gas money - and it was wrong of her to come and spend our money on her gas. She first said, "but *I* put the gas in that can. It was mine" and acted surprised when I told her that she was replacing "our" gas - it was never hers. I didn't like the playing dumb.
I felt awful refusing to help her this morning. BUT I felt she needed to be a big girl and learn the lesson to spend her money more wisely. That driving a car means you are responsible enough to make sure you don't run out of gas. That spending all your gas money before payday = riding your bike.
Btw, she just texted me that she was at work. That she had done what I had advised (walked and got gas from the gas station)
So, send me some moral support, lol.
Lisa j
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That's the place I'm in. Sixteen years now, graduated 3, still have kids in grades 10, 8 and 3............ Advice? Help? When you need it, how do you find that fresh excitement to be dedicated to homeschooling all over again?
Well, Jonibee, I am not in the same boat as you are, but close. I have hsed for 14 years and graduated one. This year, I have one in private school as a junior (senior) next year and I had an 8th, 5th and 2nd grader to homeschool.
I had a very rough senior year with the one who is graduated and I was exhausted and burned out. This past year, out of sheer necessity - I relaxed the home studies & we joined a co op where we transferred the "heavier subjects" to co oping.
And this past year, I started teaching Latin at the same co op (a beginning Henle Latin teacher who had learned it with my older children).
We definitely did not work as hard at home as past years. I spent more time online and more time 'getting going" in the mornings. We just ended up doing less work overall, but still getting the cores done thru co op & daily math & Lang Arts/English.
I became much more relaxed in many ways with my three youngest and yet the co oping helped us keep a good structure on a few key courses: Latin & IEW especially.
We did 3 "cores" thru co oping and the rest at home. We did not do as well on keeping up science. I'm ok with that. Next year we will. We did do a few other things like WWE and SOTW-lite with the 3rd/5th...
Next year, we'll do 4 subj at co op: Latin, IEW, Civics/Govt & General Sci for my 9th/6th. Then at home, we will cover math, English, spelling and prob. some geography.
It helped a lot to do something different.
So changing things up, relaxing more at home and sharing the burden with a co op was great. OTOH, I didn't feel like I was taking from the co op & not giving because I ended up with 19 Latin students in 3 classes. So, I got to improve my Latin & teach Latin to students who otherwise may not have had any.
Lisa J
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Well, for starters, make it clear you don't believe a word he/she says. Then, live by it. Anything they say "may be true" or "not true". No way of telling short of evidence or facts. Say quietly, once as needed, "I don't believe you." Tell the teen that the trust has been broken. And you don't believe anything they tell you without evidence because they have been continually, routinely dishonest. Tell them it will be up to the teen to rebuild the trust. Then, really wait it out. Pray!
Secondly, make sure in every way possible that the 19yo receive the consequences for the lies, i.e. lies about putting gas in the car, let him run out. Lies about where he was, let him walk home. I know these are poor consequences examples, but you get the gist.
Say lots of nonjudgmental statements like, "Hmmm. Out past curfew because your watch broke? Oh."
Most of all, I'd recommend googling things like "compulsive liar" or "habitual liar" and get educated about what exactly is going on. I would suggest counseling if it is possible.
HTH a bit!
Lisa j
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I used to work in a deli and we bought cheese in 40# blocks and then cut it into 1#, 2# etc sizes. It always had mold and whitish spots. We just trimmed them off and cut the cheese. That is very normal. I would guess it comes from condensation where the cheese touches the wrapper.
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I am another one that loves my mil. She is kind, generous, witty and appreciates my being such a good wife to her (only) son!
We are not super close - and I partially attribute that to her having 4 daughters and my always very busy life. She is very close with her 4 daughters and I am close with my mom and 4 sisters. But I love her and respect her and it is mutual.
My mil/fil live about 80 miles away but my mom and sisters are all local.
lisaj
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4 is "many".
I have five. I grew up in a family of 10 (same mom/dad; no steps) children.
Personally, I find 3 or less "simple living" lol. (as in when I only have 3 kids around, life is easy peasy around here)
Lisaj
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A large families group I am on is talking about grocery prices. The women are posting a per person per day cost breakdown. Kind of an interesting way to do it. We spend $3.50 per person per day.
We spend about $650/month for 7 people for food, toiletries, cleaning products, household stuff (lightbulbs, batteries, etc.) That breaks down to $3.50 per person per day, which is pretty inexpensive.
But, we live in a pretty inexpensive area of the U.S. and I can shop at the base commissary. We also do very, very few convenience foods and have no one in diapers. It does include an organic half a beef bought once a year and a half-dozen or so organic whole chickens.
Lisaj
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Secretariat.
Sea Biscuit. (Sea Biscuit may have something inappropriate? can't remember.
Lisaj
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Is it because homeschool curriculum sellers are coming out with newer editions more regularly? Is it because there is so much new curriculum?
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Having children aged 8, 11, 14, 16, 18, I really relate to the "no nonsense" mom comment of the OP. I don't have the time or energy to explain simple instructions or debate them.
"Time to get up, get dressed and come and eat" does not need an explanation. This is how our family starts the day, so any comments from my children to a routine instruction like this are "only" designed to engage me in an argument or delay leaving their warm bed (or exciting novel). Especially for the oldest 3 children, I have benefited greatly from the "Love & Logic" books; which espouse nonjudgmental empathetic statements from the parents, such as, "Hmmm. I know what you mean."
I have also found when my very argumentative 16yod says something mean or just inappropriate like "You always let the other kids do anything they want, but never me!" I say nothing, especially if we are one-on-one, I just let it hang there in silence. It is very effective. The foolishness of the statement is so obvious.
Lisa j
s/o Christians: first 4 scriptures?
in General Education Discussion Board
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John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever should believe on him would not perish, but have everlasting life.
Acts 8:27 I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
John 1:1-4 (we know a tune with this) In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made, that was made. In Him was life and the life was the Light of men.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
All Scripture is God-breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Tim 3:16-17
Lisaj, mom to 5 (AWANA!)