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  1. I don't imagine anyone will have tried them both...but any thoughts on comparing the two options?

    (this is for DS, entering 9th grade this coming year).

     

    So far, from what I can tell:

     

     

     

    OS - all materials are from their website (videos, recordings, printable worksheets)

    OS - daily things assigned to do. 

    OS - (optional?) 15 min/ week tutoring session. 

    OS - $250, including all materials.

    OS - German 1- IV + AP

     

    TPS - uses a std text (Sag Mal)

    TPS - looks like it's once a week?  Weekly list of items to do?

    TPS - 2 hr / week combined classroom + tutoring?  extra 1.5hr/week for 150$.

    TPS - $488 + Text (~150?) which you can use for all 3 years

    TPS - German I-III

     
    anything else between the two?  Anyone have opinions on the text used by TPS or the materials used in the OS program?  I'm concerned a bit about the limited amount of time spent speaking/listening on the OS program - interested in your experience with that pro or con.
     
    How about for a 7th grader?  She's interested, but probably not diligent enough to keep up with a HS-paced language course.  TPS offers a half-paced class (German 1A in a year).  I wonder how it would go for her doing OS, just at a slower pace?

     

  2. I went through this with them last year.

    I did, in the end, end up getting access to the digital material (never did find useful videos, but the testing materials with answers and answers for the workbook have been great).

    However - I probably made a dozen or two phone calls to them to get it.  Eventually they caved because I was clearly not going to go away otherwise and I did in fact pay for it.

    They made it pretty clear that their new policy is that they do NOT provide the digital access to homeschoolers.  Even if you get a school code you are 'not a real school'.  They directed me to their homeschooling site, which at the time was so bad I couldn't even figure out how to buy books from it.

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  3. We just did this (IntroAlgA, then C&P, then the rest of IntroAlg)

     

    It was 99% fine.  There was, as I recall, a few exercises in C&P where lack of quadratic function-solving ability was an issue and there is a bit at the end where having seen series/summation would have been helpful.  IMO, not enough of a requirement to force the decision not to proceed with C&P.

     

    DD12, then, is just finishing up having gone all the way through IntroAlg and hasn't done C&P yet and that's fine, too.

  4. There's a balance here, I think, between encouraging dreaming big and avoiding future self-flagilation because 'you failed' when you really didn't.

     

    DD has declared since she was 10ish that she wants to swim in college and also study CompSci...or maybe math.  I'm taking both goals seriously, but also trying to guide her not to get her heart set on infeasible things.  Let's not have her spend 8 years thinking Cal is her dream school, only to be crushed because she's not a top-20 nationally ranked swimmer and hence won't make the Cal team. (not to mention that swimming at Cal and studying engineering is, at best, ill-advised).  She wants to do both things well, but realistically I know she's not willing to put in the amount of sacrafice - every month for the next 8 years - required to swim on a top-5 D1 swim team and I'm not sure she should.  So...I support the dream while pointing out how excellent it would be to swim for, say, HarveyMudd or USDC or someplace w/ a good CompSci dept and a solid D2 or D3 team.

     

    So...yes to taking seriously and exposure.  But driven kids can also have a tendency to be unnecessarially hard on themselves and I don't think that's helpful, either.

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  5. Thanks for sharing your sequence.

    I've heard the AoPS Geometry book is often done after Algebra 2 chapters. I understand it is very difficult.

     

    At least according to AoPS it's fine to schedule after their Alg1 (which goes quite a bit further than most Alg1 courses).

    We'll see how it goes, but there'll be no convincing DD to wait for geometry.  She wants to take the AMC10 in Feb, and it requires geomerty, so geometry it is.

  6. She does like doing one official science at a time, more or less. She usually finishes early, though, and does whatever science programs locally we can find.

     

    Okay, so this is what it looks like:

     

    Physical Science (DO)/ PreA (DO), start Algebra 6th (the year we are finishing)

    Hoagland-Campbell Biology/ Finish Algebra 1 (Dolciani) 7th

    Clover Creek -or- Centripetal Physics / Geometry (Jacobs 2nd) 8th

    Centripetal Chemistry/ Algebra 2 (Dolciani) and maybe part of Gelfand to finish year 9th

    AP Bio (BYU Online)/ PreCalc (Brown + maybe part of AoPS- topics are a little different) 10th

    DE Chem/ DE Calc (1&2?) 11th

    DE Physics/ AP or DE Stats 12th

     

    DD is in a pretty similar situation (rising 7th grader, reasonably ahead in math & science, solid but not grade-accelerating other subjects).  At this point, she's set on doing a math or CS career so we're somewhat biassing towards that.  This is all highlly subject to change down the road, of course, the I think the path looks something like:

     

    7th

      Geometry & Alg2 (both AoPS)

      Chem (Chang)

    8th

      PreAlg (AoPS).  If she continues to do > 1 year of math per year we'll also add in NumberTheory and/or C&P.

      Either AP Chem or M&L Bio

    9th

      Calculas (AoPS + whatever else.  Assume we'll just to calc this year and go as deep as she can wants/to).

      the other science not taken in 8th

    10th

      Stats + <something else> for math

      Physics (calc-based).

     

    at which point I'd consider her to have covered the basics and we'll go with whatever math & science facilitates her interests.  If it remains CompSci then I'd guess it'll be LinAlg, FiniteField Arith, graph theory or something similar.

  7. Unusual perspectives on spacetime topologies would be right up our alley, though.

     

    This will be WAY off the beaten path, but the connection to relativity is much more than just marketing - the technology is quite legitimately viewed as directly optimizing space-time locations of computation  - ensuring every event (computation) is within the event-horizon of it's causal predecessors (prior computations).

     

    http://www.fpl2012.org/Presentations/Keynote_Steve_Teig.pdf

     

    Ignore the bits about FPGAs and reconfigurable computing...skip ahead to around slide 24.

     

    If you decide this is cool I can dredge up more specifics, diagrams, slides, computational models, etc.

  8. Sorry... I have to run... He can't get his wet shirt off. Kinda a good example of what I am talking about! Ha!

     

    us in spades.  DS can swim the mile in competative time, handle HS bio & math in middle school....and the other day was actually panicked because he found himself 'stuck' under a large teddy bear.  Laughing at him did not make the situation better, but I couldn't help it.

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  9. I got into my dream school, barely.  Aid wasn't an issue since state schools were cheap at the time (I know, right!).  The night before I was to leave for college I woke my dad up in the middle of the night because I was terrified I would fail.  "It's a top Univ, everyone's going to be smarter than me, I'm going to fail, arghhh!"

     

    He talked me down from the cliff.

    I did fine.

     

    I think it's pretty common.

  10. IMO/E, someone interested in physics is likely to find a better fit in CompSci than EE.  In both physics and computer science, what you're really doing is constructing a mathematical model whose behavior matches some system you're interested in, and then optimizing that model.  The art, in both fields, in in the model construction.

     

    I ended up taking upper division CS, EE and Physics classes as an undergrad.  Upper division CS classes (queuing theory, stochastic optimization) felt much more like physics (analytical mechanics, thermodynamics) than EE (circuit theory, solid state design).

     

     

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  11. Just following up -

     

    I think we're going to go ahead and roll our own.  The outline provided by Luckymama was a great start.  Pearson has an updated version of the book she used that's specifically targeting the AP test, and we'll throw in a reasonable amount of other resources (video, etc.)  I'm still trying to pull together a decent summer-reading list for DS, so he has some background before he starts...so if you have suggestions please send them my way (I'm happy to publish a collated list).

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  12. FWIW - I was accepted to my Univ as a physics major.  In the summer before I got there I was working/reading and had a change of heart - decided to switch to CompSci before I arrived.  The switch was difficult to convince them to let me do[1] - generally engineering majors are impacted.  I suggest if you're undecided that you apply to engineering and transfer later if you decide on physics.

     

    Some thoughts...

    - the overlap btwn physics and EE is larger than you'd think, really.  Lots of math...

    - a really decent fraction of physics majors end up as software engineers in the more mathy parts of the tech/chip industry.  Honestly, it's easier to get a job.  they do fairly well, but it'd have been easier to just start w/ CS.

    - understand that doing physics processionally means getting a PhD.

    - at the end of the day, what cemented my switch was a realization that Shannon, more than Maxwell or Bohr, held the key to understanding the universe....but not everyone has seen that particular light so YMMV.  :D

     

     

    [1] they told me flat out that switching from physics to engineering (CS) was impossible and not allowed.  I asked if they would allow me to sign up for the CS classes that weren't part of the physics sequence if there was space left in them...and they agreed.  I did that for almost two years, then pointed to my trackrecord of As and asked again if I could transfer.  It worked for me, but I know of many other people who wanted to switch and were denied.  It's generally easier to go the other direction.

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  13. I'd wonder about anxiety.  oldest did (and to some degree still does) do the same thing - can't make a decision and gets very upset about all possible outcomes.  I think, essentially, he's overwhelmed by the opportunity cost and can't figure out how to integrate conflicting feelings.  Anxiety is pretty common, and actually more common among the intellectually gifted.  Happily, there is help.

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  14.  Once you've covered and understand the Biology text in 9th grade, is that all.....and you move on next year to Chemistry, or is there a qualitative aspect to understanding it? Is working through and understanding what is presented in an Algebra text all you need to do to build up to Geometry?

     

    no.  As with most everything, there are degrees and various depths of understanding.  You can take weak HS biology, strong HS bio, AP Bio...get a PhD in cell biology...so clearly there CAN be more.  Likewise, there's a material range in complexity, depth of understanding required, and scale of problem solving in 'algebra' programs.  All the decent ones will get you to Geometry and (assuming you don't forget it during the year of geometry) some form of algebra 2 - but there IS a difference.  They can all be done 'more', 'deeper', 'with greater connections to other subjects', etc.

     

    if you should be happy with what he's taking and doing well in or if you should present him with something more substantial....that's a judgment call for you and he.  But it DOES exist.

     

    If he's interested in the Bio, why don't you get a copy of a good AP Bio level text (perhaps Campbell) and just say 'hey, here's a present for doing so well! We saw that you liked Biology and are doing well.  We've heard this is really good book that's a bit more in depth.  We thought you might like it.'  Maybe also a subscription to something like Nature - that publishes quality biology related articles and current research...and just see what happens.

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  15. Planning 9th grade - our first year of HS.  Want to ensure we don't schedule a vacation or something of a specific date that's important.  What I've got so far:

     

    AMC10       Feb 7, 2017 or Feb 15, 2017

    AP HG        May 12

     

    any reason he should take the ACT or SAT or PSAT freshman year?

     

    For reference, the current plan for classes is:

     

    Alg2 (AoPS)

    Chemistry (Chang)

    History (HotWM)

    English (??)

    AP HumanGeo (Rubenstein, the AP version)

    German (??)

     

  16. For Audible, under the "Me" heading/section you will first see the number of minutes listened to. You can change this to day, week, month. If you swipe left, it shifts to badges for various things. You can get different rankings (achieved, silver, gold) for various amounts of hours, bookmarks, times of day, completed books, etc. Highly awesome!

     

    The Flashcard app is called NKO Flashcards. It can be free. Unlocking the whole thing and all the games is $14.99. This is the most expensive app Ds owns, but is worth it for us. Decks of cards can be created and uploaded from Quizlet. They can also be just taken from open decks on Quizlet.

    Flashcards [â›] by NKO Ventures, LLC

    https://appsto.re/us/MbmJC.i

     

    ETA: I had to go see exactly how the badges worked in the app to explain. For each deck of flashcards there is a reader board which shows stats on how many cards have been mastered. The stats come from playing all the games with the words. There is a reminder which ticks down the number needed to know. There is also a leaderboard which ranks each student if the deck is shared amoung others. Ds and I currently compete to see who can memorize Lukeion vocabulary the fastest. The leaderboard changes depending on who has mastered the most at any given time.

    OMG.  This is SO awesome.  Thank you thank you thank you!

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  17. things are sort-of in flux...DS14 is turning into a more motivated student and 'getting stuff' better - so he's moving faster - and DD12 has become a tween girl.   :closedeyes: Many things are emotional and focus is hard to come by....so we'll see.  The current plan, though, is something like....

     

    9th Grade

    Chemistry (Chang, I think)

    tail-end of Geometry, Alg 2, possibly IntroNumberTheory(AoPS for all)

    History (HotMW)

    AP Human Geography

    German (undecided how much)

    English (first CC class?)

     

    7th Grade

    Chemistry (Chang, I think)

    tail-end of Geometry, Alg 2,  Math contest prep for AMC8/10 (AoPS for all)

    History (SOTW 3&4)
    English (spelling, grammar, something else)
    Programming w/ Python

     

     

     

    FWIW, since it's been discussed, we're a checklist-family.  I make one a week, per child.  DS14 likes them because then he knows what to expect and can be self-sufficient.  This year he'll start doing some portion of making the lists.  DD12 needs them because otherwise she 'forgets' what she was supposed to do and everything will be done 'tomorrow'.

     

     

     

     

  18. I'm thinking about AP Human Geography for ds, who will be a 9th grader next year.  He's a decent writer, likes history, and cultures, etc...seems like a good fit and a good first AP class.

     

    I'm looking at the PA Homeschoolers online class.  He's not taken an online course, but he's going to need to, so this seemed like a good place to start.  (http://www.aphomeschoolers.com/cgi-bin/choose.pl?class=humangeo)

     

    anyone have experince w/ the class or teacher?

     

    Looking at the description, it seemed pretty light for an AP class.  1 chapter to read each week?  One writing assignment each week?  <shrug>

     

    Is AP HumanGeo really just that easy, or am I not giving enough credit to an efficient teacher, or are the field-work and interactive labs more than I'd have thought?

     

     

    Any had a DC go through the class?  With this instructor?

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