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I think his point is more to Katniss as a heroine--what if she was the victor because she successfully raped her competitors before getting raped? Are we more desensitized to murder?
I am sympathetic to the analogy, but I think it is too flawed to be useful. Nobody ever rapes in self-defense, but killing in self-defense is justifiable. And for all Katniss' talk about surviving at any cost, does anyone really think she would have killed Rue or Peeta at the end if that was the only choice left? No. In the first book she avoids others as much as possible and only kills in self-defense, the defense of others, or in mercy (Cato). Her speech and thoughts sound gruff and selfish, but her actions show a different side.
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I do believe someone needs to work on their reading comprehension skills not to mention human psych. knowledge. How on earth did he come up with that cr@p? Katniss is NEVER shown to be self-sacrificing. Even volunteering to take her sister's place is somewhat selfish of her. She cannot stand the thought of losing her sister. This way, she doesn't have to. Everything else he said is even more ridiculous.
I guess I need to work on my reading comprehension skills, because I do think she is self-sacrificing. :D She is a deeply flawed heroine, but she is still heroic.
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It made me think of "Kidnapped" by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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OK, we were pretty late to the Hunger Games party,....
But nope. I thought the book was wonderful and engaging. We read it for hours at a time, with him always begging for more. In three days we finished it.
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But what made the book so good (in my mind) were the values of love and self-sacrifice that were embedded in the story in a non-polyannaish way. The way (spoiler alert) Katniss stepped up to volunteer for her sister Prim, the impact that Peeta's gift of bread in childhood saved Katniss's family, the complexity of relationships with people like Rue, all built empathy in a complex moral setting.
I know when the people of District 9 sent a loaf of bread after Rue's death I had tears roll down my face.
So I like this novel a lot! Surprisingly so. The satirical social criticism only deepened the positive feelings.
Who knew? :D
Bill
This. :iagree:
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Four out of five of my kids toe-walked and they have all grown out of it for the most part. Some of them took longer than others. My 14 yr old will still do it occasionally when he is barefoot, but just barely. I always checked to make sure they could stretch their tendons if they needed to, and made sure they could put their feet flat on the floor. Interestingly, they are all pretty fast runners, especially compared to my single non-toe-walking child, who has a more flexible type of body rather than muscular like her sibling do. So I guess like others have said that I think there is some kind of genetic and/or anatomical component there. I think there is also something sensory, because it seems like some floor types caused them to raise up more than others, LOL.
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Thanks for all the responses. I wrote the OP late last night, so I might not have been as clear as I could have been. My oldest is somewhat immature. And she has an August birthday, so she is the youngest. This past year, she has had some trouble with her schoolwork. It has gotten more difficult (obviously) and she is having trouble coping with that. I don't know if a little maturity might help there or not.
My youngest is flat out not ready for 3rd grade. And While out guts are saying hold them back (and I'm just flat out saying it), Dh is concerned about the social. He says just keep going, they'll catch up eventually. I, however, feel the pressure of having a 3rd grader still doing 1st grade phonics, (She reads fine, but when asked to spell a word, cannot decode the sounds) and only being 1/3 of the way through her 2nd grade math book.
Nakia, I do NOT take offense at all to your post. It gives us food for thought. And I appreciate your honesty. My oldest does have special needs, and holding her back a year would not correct everything. I do think though, that a bit more maturity might help her in as she faces more challenging work.
Oh, in addition to all of this, there is a 7-12 classical co-op that is held at our church, that is VERY challenging. I have no doubt that my oldest could do it, and do it well, but as it stands right now, she does NOT have the maturity. And being the rock bottom youngest (August BD), I don't think she would have the maturity needed to join the co-op. And she wants too, because a lot of her friends will be in it. (their older siblings are already there). And well, to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't mind her going there, because her and I clash a LOT. But she performs beautifully for others. :glare:
Cin, I did this with my oldest daughter who also has a summer birthday. I have never regretted it, especially now that she is a high school junior. I am so glad I have one more year with her. She was both socially and academically immature in elementary/junior high. She was just a late bloomer and really took off academically and socially around 7th grade. She is now a social butterfly and a great student, involved in tons of things. My dh has an August birthday and was always the youngest in his class. He said he would have been much better off to have been a year older when he went to college.
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I have looked and looked at the course descriptions, scope and sequence, and TOCs, but I still don't have a good feel for the difference between these two. I know Dr Seibert teaches both of them. The reason I am considering these courses is that I can get it free with my son's whole grade package, even though it would be for his older sister. I need her schedule to be very flexible next year so I am trying to avoid signing her up with a more typical once-a-week online class.
Which one emphasizes writing more? W&G 11 says it includes a "research paper" and W&G 12 a "research report". ???? Does one cover lit. analysis papers more than the other? If one were looking for a wrap-up course for a senior who just needs to review and fine-tune usage and mechanics (she's great at grammar, not so worried about that), and review the major types of essays and papers, which would you choose? Can anyone compare the two. I realize this question is probably a long shot.
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thinking about this some more and realizing she's going to make one heck of a mother-in-law someday.
This. Oh my goodness. I don't think this lady's elevator goes to the top floor.
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One thing I have noticed...many of my kids' friends don't like the books that much because they don't like Katniss' character. If you take all of her thoughts at face value - well...but how many of us would want our thoughts taken at face value? She thinks "survive at any cost" but when it comes down to it, that isn't what she does. She is compassionate and almost always does the right thing. Very artfully done by the author, I believe. She is very good at her craft.
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I was disappointed with who she ended up with. Regarding her vote, I think she was just testing Coin.
Yep. :iagree:
I wasn't disappointed in who she ended up with though.
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My sophomore got a gold, and my junior got a silver, both of them taking the Latin Prose IV exam. The older has become rather philosophical about her younger sister beating her every year. :tongue_smilie:
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Yes, perhaps I just need to make a master list and let her choose a certain number of books. I would like to see her read another Austen, another Dickens, To Kill A Mockingbird, something Flannery O' Connor, and a few classic short stories like The Most Dangerous Game and something by O Henry. I want this year to be sort of a fun year, since most of her reading has been so heavy.
Any other suggestions for "must reads"?
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I tend to agree with Lolly and Nan. At some point, the Law of Diminishing Returns sets in, and your student's time is better spent elsewhere. Like Nan, I also found that writing lots of papers using the spellchecker helped more than anything. My daughter's attention would be immediately on the red squiggly line - so she had to notice, and fix right away, words that she tended to use in her writing.
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If you are doing or have done a Great Books approach for literature, do you do anything to fill in "gaps"? My oldest has done a lot of ancient and medieval literature - not so much on the American, modern British, etc. (other than the year of Omnibus III her freshman year). She won't be taking a literature course per se her senior year, just Rhetoric. I am thinking of either having her read thru an anthology of some kind, or just giving her a reading list. Some things she has read on her own for fun, i.e some Austen, Anna Karenina. She had Omnibus I, II, III and Great Books 1 and 2 online. She has also had a year of Shakespeare.
So, what I am actually trying to do, I guess, is come up with a reading list for her senior year which addresses the areas in which she hasn't read much. She will probably be going to a Great Books type of college, and I would like this year of literature to be Something Different, if that makes any sense. Thoughts, suggestions?
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ALEKS now has an SAT math prep course. My junior daughter is going to go through that once speech and debate season is over.
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:001_smile: I should be a caveat in there. I grew up in Africa as the child of missionaries. This is MY hang up.
Gotcha. :grouphug:
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http://www.dfwspeechdebate.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96&Itemid=73
This is what my daughter used for LD this year.
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I also hated the pomp and circumstance of showing off all your new clothing. Now, the little girls in their hats looked adorable, but I don't think that is the meaning of Easter at all and it bugged me.
Dawn
I explain to my kids that this is about celebration and all things being made new. They look forward to their new outfits every year. Easter should be a party! :001_smile: He is risen!
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i'm not trying to be argumentative, but i disagree with your attitude about this. i grew up in a family that only went to church on christmas and easter. that's it. twice a year. and yes, we were total hypocrites and just taking up space. and although it didn't have an immediate effect on me, i can tell you that a seed was planted. years later when i was 25 i became a christian. my life was literally falling apart at the seams, and i remembered many years earlier being in church and hearing about jesus. at age 25, i remember kneeling and crying and asking god to help me. i knew that he could because i had heard it years before. i believe church is a lovely place for ungodly people. just something to remember when you're inconvenienced tomorrow. you don't know what god has in store. my own parents and my 3 sisters became christians after seeing my own life transformed.
:iagree:My family has a similar story.
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He is risen, indeed!
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DH works on drilling rig offshore as a Chief ET. He is gone for a whole month, working every day, sometimes 20 hr days; but then he gets 25 days at home. We actually see more of him now than we did when he was self-employed.
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Wow. We didn't experience this at all when we saw the movie. In fact, I was worried beforehand about what the ratio of kids to adults in the theater might mean for the viewing experience, but you could have heard a pin drop once the movie started.
This was our experience, too. The only sounds were quiet sobbing after - never mind , spoiler - but if you've seen or read it you probably know what I'm talking about. I thought it was a beautifully crafted movie, and yes, I was one of the sobbers.
My reluctant reader 11 1/2 yr old is reading them now at her own request. I was dubious, but I keep asking her questions to make sure she is understanding, not just consuming. She has surprised me with her understanding.
Just as an FYI, so you know where we're coming from, we don't allow Twilight books, and only harry Potter after the kids are older teenagers. So we are kinda picky. I probably wouldn't have let my daughter read them when she was ten. She wasn't nearly as mature a year ago. YMMV
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TX girl here - wore quite a few mums in my day. They are even bigger now. My daughter wore one to homecoming this year for a homeschool football team - so cool!
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It's like musical scales and exercises
There are also some talented musicians who never needed a day of lessons.
But there are many competent and talented musicians who benefit daily from the repetitive and systematic lessons in their past.
I don't sit down and diagram sentences. But the deep understanding of how sentences hang together has definitely been of good use. I use it when I write in English, when I study the Bible, and when I study other languages.
No one plays scales in concert. But scales and exercises do improve playing of "real" music.
I really like the expanation SWB gives of how diagraming aids in determining why a sentence doesn't sound right.
This. Excellent analogy.
ND Wilson on Why Hunger Games is Flawed to Its Core
in General Education Discussion Board
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What I am trying to say is that you can justifiably kill someone, you can never justifiably rape someone. I don't think receiving food rations would justify killing, either, though.
I actually enjoy N.D. Wilson as an author, and I enjoy reading his book reviews. I just happen to think he missed it on this one. My daughters have a group of friends that like to discuss books, and they all seem to have completely different reactions to Katniss' character. It is almost as if her character is a Rorschach test. :lol: