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My oldest doesn't care for history. I decided to just to do interest led in history. He does like American history, so we will hit that a lot between now and high school. Of course, he gets no choice in history during high school. :D
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Call and talk it through with the people at the 1-800 number. The placement test is very helpful, but remember you're still putting them through the Transitions book when you go into those higher levels. If you're really not certain, get the Transitions book and the necessary manipulatives now and buy the level you end up in when you get there. In the toc for Transitions you'll see the asterisks telling you the jumping points to go to each level. The material should be familiar, stuff he's done before and is just seeing a new way. When that changes over to stuff he doesn't know, then it's time to bail and get the full level. You'll be able to tell.
Shipping is fast. You can start with just Transitions and a few manips and be fine. I haven't actually looked at it in a while to know what manips you'll need. They should say on the website, or they'll tell you when you call. The person on that phone is getting paid to talk to you and wants to. Call 'em. :)
BTW, this is none of my business and not what you asked, but I wouldn't back up *too* far with an older dc going into RS. I know you are seeing weak points in him and want understanding. RS E still is only roughly equivalent to a 4th grade math book from say BJU. He *might* be able to go into a 5th grade book afterward. It really depends on your situation and sorting out how severe the needs are. I'm just saying be careful there. *I* would be more inclined to get a 5th grade math book from BJU, TT, or do the placement test and try CLE. Then get just the Activities for the ALAbacus book and use that to incorporate hands-on and conceptual understanding topically into the more mature program. That way he's only *1* grade behind at the end of the year.
That totally depends on your situation, but it's another way to get there. Just don't buy the koolaid thinking a struggling student is going to do RS E and go right into pre-algebra, mercy. That's what they used to tell us, lol. Then I got a BJU 5 and wondered what planet they were on. ;)
Some strugglers and SN kids also do really well with MUS. It takes a slower approach (topic by topic) that gets bad-mouthed, but it's really good for some kids. Just really depends on what you've got going on.
If you want to buy something RS, start with just Transitions. It's the cheapest way to sort this out and will have fabulous resale value when you're done. Then you'll know if you want to continue. It could be that that alone will fill some holes and you'll go ahead and put him into a more standard 5th grade text. Or it might be you'll find RS won't fit and you'll head over to MUS or something different. It's just a conservative place to start.
Thank you! I was hoping someone would post things like this. My oldest is behind in math and is discouraged. Holding him back would only be to boost his math confidence. After much thought, discussion, prayer, etc., I have learned that we are similiar in the way we learn. He is not understanding math because I am not teaching the why. He needs to know the why behind math and I looked at Rightstart (again) since it was conceptual. MUS and Math Mammoth have not worked for him. To be honest, I bought Righstart 2 years ago and failed at my attempt to try it! It was so different from MUS that we were using at that time. I have the transition lessons and we started those this week just to get a feel for the program. We have three more weeks of school to see how far we get. I won't make a final decision until that time.
I will give my perspective, for what it's worth. I started ds in RS when he was in third grade, and we did level C-E over the next three years. I finally let him stop partway through E because he was miserable. He never caught on deeply to the Righstart way.I started ds with level A when it was her time. I believe she did wonderfully. Based on our family experience, I think starting RS in the middle doesn't always work. I think it's one of the best programs out there if you start when they're very young.
Just my .02. If you have your heart set on giving it a try, follow their placement suggestions. You can always accelerate/skip stuff if they're getting it quickly.
Kirsten
I worry about this! It is so different than what we are use to doing in math. I have been looking over samples for days and reading reviews just to get use to it.
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We are almost finished with C now, about 10 lessons to go and while mastery of multiplication facts 1-5 and 10 has been pushed looking in the subsequent lessons it doesn't seem that the rest of the multiplication table is going to be hit very much. Looking at D as well you don't even work on multiplication again for awhile. I wouldn't worry about going to D solely for that reason personally.
This is very helpful to know. Combine with an response that D is a lot of review from C. My youngest knows his 0,1,2,3,5,10 facts. I was thinking C because he didn't know all of them, but it looks like D would be fine to start.
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I am 99% sure we are switching to this program. I need some help in placing my kids. I need some advice from those that have used C-E.
My will be third grader has just finished 2nd grade work using Horizons 2 and MUS Beta. He is average at math. But, he really doesn't understand the why and he tends to count. Not what the Rightstart program teaches. When I do the placement test he places in C because he has only learned half of the x facts. I really think he would do fine in D. But, should I start him in C just for review and to get him more in tune with the Righstart program?
Same for my oldest. He is placing in between D and E. He will be a 6th grade, but just finished 4th grade level math using a few products I pieced together this year. Should I start him on D to review and build his confidence? He would benefit from an easy year of math and really could use the review. I think he would still be ready for Algebra come 9th grade, which is our goal. I just feel really bad starting him so far back!
What do you think?
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If you have a local Barnes & Nobles store, they usually have a summer reading program. You could sign the kids up for that so they can get the free book. That reward won't cost you anything. :001_smile: Our local movie place as summer movies for $1, so that would be a good reward, if possible. Take them to the pool. I am working on a summer reading program for my kids, but I am trying to find free rewards.
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Spelling Power works good for some non natural spellers. It is working for my Ds. Spelling Plus is also a good one.
Ones that are suppose to be for non natural spellers, but didn't work for us: All About Spelling. It was too much and he was overwhelmed. Apples & Pears seemed good, but I stopped after the dictation sentences of "I'm a drinker not a thinker said the sad clown." :001_huh:
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Bill (or anyone), what book or program do I need to get the "how to" ? I THOUGHT I was doing a good job of teaching math, but my kids don't understand and I realized teaching long division that I really didn't understand it but was just doing the procedure that I was taught. My Ds wanted more and couldn't understand unless I could explain it better, but I couldn't! I was just like him and I didn't understand math until 8th grade when I had a teacher that taught us the why behind the how. But, it has been too long and that was only one year I was taught math that way. My son reminds me so much of me! But, I can't figure out how to teach him that way. I really thought I was and I think I was until we got to division. :blushing:
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We aren't 4 year history cycle people! :tongue_smilie: I want it to work, but we just can't pull it off. I wouldn't worry about it and just do what works for your family.
ETA: Your oldest could just read books from the library from the history of your choice if you really feel like you need history.
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I have drooled over that catalog a few times. :tongue_smilie: I haven't bought any of their core curriculm kits. I do like the products they have put together! It looks neat and fun. I also think their reviews on the products give me a different outlook on the products compared to what I have read on other sites. I did find out that they offer "manuals" on how to schedule their core kits. http://www.timberdoodlecompany.com/doodleblog/2012/03/30/what-kind-of-manuals-are-in-timberdoodles-core-curriculum-kits/
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Thank you! I forgot about Amazon. :D
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Is this the only place you buy it? http://www.heinemann.com/products/E00223.aspx
I needed to place a CBD order, but I don't see it there. I checked Rainbow and nothing there either.
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I wanted to say that I liked the post in your signature about math review. This was very helpful! Right now my kids are done with their regular math program and we are just learning a few topics that we missed and I was struggling with getting review into this new math routine. Very helpful!
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Thank you :)
Why do you suppose it can't be used on its own? I mean, the American History volumes combined with the World History volumes? I think that's how it's intended to be used, encompassing both.
I am not really sure. :lol: Sorry! But, have you seen this? http://simplycharlottemason.com/books/modern-times-epistles-revelation/ It looks like it goes with the books to make it complete.
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I just got these books, but I really haven't looked at them much. We are using these books as supplements and/or read alouds with our regular history. I don't think these books could be used alone. The second book just came out, so it is new.
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Interesting! I agree with the above that some just have sloppy handwriting. But, funny that we used HWT and I have two boys with very sloppy handwriting! We no longer use HWT. I really don't think it is HWT, but just my boys lack of fine motor skills and hand strength. My oldest has improved his cursive after switching to something else.
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Which Kitchen Table Math book would you buy with older elementary kids? I've had them on my wishlist for a while and I think it is time to buy.
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If I remember correctly, it is in the first three books (Primer, Alpha, Beta). I think in one of those it is not a lesson, but in the back of the book. I can't remember if it is in Gamma, but it might.
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I just got the JUMP at home workbook grade 4 for my 5th grader. He is about a year "behind" and it ready to "catch up". I tried Horizons which is incremental, but it introduces a small portion and then doesn't continue until many lessons later. JUMP does it all in one lesson. We can learn it step by step, but all at once (or take as many days as we need). I couldn't do this in Horizon because it would introduce and review many things inbetween each small step. If you need constant review, you will need to add it on on your own. We won't be doing all the problems and for review I will have my ds do some of the problems we missed. This is our plan for the rest of the school year.
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I don't allow "groaning", but dawdling started happening when writing was expected, and when things started to get the least bit challenging. Part of the problem was that DS had been in school for a year and a half where he had ZERO challenge whatsoever. We've changed that. ;) He's no longer coasting through school. His dawdling occurs if something is too easy or too hard. You have to find the sweet spot inbetween. :tongue_smilie:
I do treat it as an attitude problem and don't allow it to continue. I'm pretty strict about that, so it doesn't happen as much now.
I so need your help! I consider it an attitude problem too. Mine have been told that I don't want to hear or see any complaining about school. I can't break them of it! We have been working on this for a year as the problem got 10x worse. I have tried every punishment under the sun. I am strict and I don't give in and give consequences everytime I hear or see it (which is all day every day). I have even tried rewarding. That only last a day and then they start thinking the rewards are not worth being happy about school work. :glare: We have even changed how we do school and products used. I completely understand not being excited about school. I hated school as a child, but I kept that attitude to myself. I wouldn't have the nerve to tell my teacher that this assignment is stupid and I don't want to do it! (Maybe it is easier to say that to mom.)
I have to do something to get my kids to stop the complaining, as it really bothers me and it is not something I can just let go. But, I am completely out of ideas and this is our biggest struggle in homeschooling.
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I have bought all of this books to use as supplements to our American History study for next school year. I bought the Nations ones too for future use. I haven't read any of the stories yet, but I'm usually happy with SCM, so I didn't preview it much before buying them. I thought they would be nice to have on hand for extra reading.
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:iagree: with the above that everyone is different. I bought and used the MFW and we didn't like most of the books that were with the basic package. I looked at HOD online and like their books better. Keep in mind that I find myself in the minority most of the time with books choices. :lol:
Free Mother's Day Gift from HSBC--what did you choose?
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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I didn't get an email either. :sad:
Oh, I just saw the other post on how to get to it without the email. Going to check it out!