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  1. A beauty pagent - no way.

     

    However there are some similar pagents that are for raising money for charity - the girls are not judged on beauty - just how much money they raise - they wear no make-up and just a nice outfit. Yes I wouldn't mind if my DD did that.

     

    As for dance schools - I'm signing my DD up to learn Scottish dancing - beautiful modest costumes - everything fully covered. My DH would kick a fit if I enrolled DD in a dance studio that wore skimpy costumes.

  2. Geez - I must be an OC crazy :001_huh: I iron every day and I iron everything. Yes even the kids playclothes and even when we aren't going out. It's just a habit I guess - my mum always ironed everything and now I do too. In fact I can't stand wearing something that hasn't been ironed - it feels messy to me.

     

    I don't have a dryer though - everything is line dryed and tossed in the ironing basket so it gets wrinkly I guess. I like to iron though - very soothing and I like to see the wrinkles disappear into smoothness - yes I know - OC. I've been known to be late for appointments because I have to iron my or the kids clothes before we go somewhere LOL.

     

    My DH doesn't iron his clothes and it just looks so sloppy to me.

     

    Anyway a funny about this. I took my kids to playgroup and the playgroup leader laughed and said that she could tell I iron my clothes because my kids all knew how to use the play ironing board and iron. She said that a lot of kids don't even know what the toy is for. As if on cue my 17 month old walks up to the ironong board -grabs the iron and starts ironing doll clothes:lol: so yeah I guess I spend a lot of time ironing :D

     

    Honestly thoough this is my only OC I promise - the rest of my house is so not "wrinkle free":lol:

  3. I taught English classes to kids in Korea for a year. It didn't feel right to me that I was still teaching 10yo's at 9.30pm. Public school finished at 3 and then everyone had 2-3 extracurricular classes as well as academic tutoring classes every day after school. None of them were fed dinner till they got home at 10pm and then they had all the homework to do. They kids used to beg me not to give them homework because they already had so much and a lot of the time I agreed and didn't give it to them. I also let them eat in class or would bring a pizza for them because they would be so hungry and there was always someone falling asleep during class too.

     

    However none of the kids seemed to have any "problems" due to this. They all seemed very happy, sweet, polite etc.

     

    The one thing I did notice was how much these kids cheated. With so much being expected of them to learn and so little time to learn it and mostly in the hours when they were exhausted - every time I gave a test I would catch a bunch of them copying answers they had written down and hidden somewhere. They knew they needed an A but it was not possible for them to get an A in so many different subjects. So in reality - not all of their A's were real A's - they cheated to get them. The schools knew they did this and allowed it - because they knew if the kids didn't get good marks they would be pulled out of school and sent to a "better" one - so they let them cheat to keep enrollments.

     

    I wouldn't use the Chinese method on my child at all - I would rather they failed or got a lower grade on their own then get an A via cheating.

  4. The reason I stay in the LDS church is because it's the church that makes the most sense to me. Honestly, I studied other religions and the more I tried to figure out what they were about the more confused I became. They didn't make sense to me and didn't give me the answers I was looking for. Saying things like "well those are just the mysteries of God" seemed like a cop out to me. I tried to understand the concept of the Trinity - I couldn't. I feel much more at peace believing in a God and a Saviour and a Holy Spirit (Ghost) who were all seperate people.

     

    I guess we don't like being referred to as a cult because in my mind it conjours up images of people being forced to do evil things by their leaders - sex slaves, suicide etc. LDS members are never forced to do anything. We are free to leave - we are free to say no to anything we asked to do if we don't want to do it.

     

    As far as being saved goes - I thought that all you apparently had to do was accept Christ into your heart and we are saved? Well we certainly do that in the LDS church - our church is named The Church of Jesus Christ - every Sunday when we take the scarament we covenant to take upon us the name of Jesus Christ - everything we do is a reflection of his memory. So if that is not "taking him into our hearts and accepting him" then what is.

     

    As Mama Sheep said - I don't mind if other people call me a non-Christian - I only care about what Christ calls me.

  5. Ok - I have a question :D

     

    What are "funeral potatoes" :rofl:

     

    I hear mention of them all the time and I've even heard them mentioned during GC. I know they are part of Mormon culture in the US - but I'm Aussie LDS and seriously have no clue :001_huh:

     

    Pics???

    Recipies???

    Is it something I would want to eat :drool5:

     

    We don't do the jello salads over here either - which I will admit sound pretty :ack2: to me LOL

     

    What are we missing out on :D

  6. I voted 'depend on the child"

     

    If you have a "crazy" child and no family support or babysitters it may be very beneficial for the emotional health of the mother to be able to take time out.

     

    Secondly I live in a poor socio-economic area - there are many,many cases where it the circumstances of the child mean preschool is a much better place to be then at home.

     

    My 4yo goes to preschool -3 mornings a week. It is play based - they don't focus on academics at all - just play, arts and crafts and stories and singing. The reason I put her in was because we live in a rural area with little opportunity for appropriate socialisation. There are no neigbourhood kids for my children to play with, at our church my kids are the youngest kids by a few years there are no other children their age and my DD has two younger brothers and no sisters and her cousins live in other States. She desperately wanted some little girls her own age to play and around here pre-school was the only place for her to meet them.

     

    I plan to put my 3yo in preschool as soon as he turns 4 - he is not as social as his sister and could get by without close aged playmates - but he is totally excited about all the activities at preschool that he sees his sister doing and I don't have the heart to say no to him when I said yes to his sister and he really wants to go.

     

    I have no idea if I will send my baby (17 months now) to preschool - I guess it depends how noisy he is while I try to homeschool the older two LOL.

     

    I agree with PP - I would not send a child who did not want to go

  7. Why did He choose to remedy the situation in 1830, rather than at some other time? Why in America, rather than the Middle East? And why Joseph Smith?

     

    God chose Joseph Smith because he asked the right question - he wanted to know which church he should join - which was the right one - so he prayed and asked God. God answered him and said "None of them":) And then poor Joseph got a lot more then he bargained for :lol:

     

    Seriously though - America was chosen because it's religious liberty would allow the church to take hold and grow. Joseph was chosen because he was young, clean and open minded. He had implicit faith that God would answer his prayers and he did not have any pre-existing false beliefs - he was receptive to hearing the truth. Joseph was chosen for this task (foreordained) before he was born - God already knew the type of person he would be and knew he would complete the task he was given. At the time there was much religeous debate over which church was the correct one and who had the truth - I guess God felt it was the perfect time to enlighten everybody:D

     

    The Apostacy happened because after the apostles died the truth became distorted and mixed up with the teachings of men. The laws and ordinances were changed and the everlasting covenant that Jesus Christ gave to the people in those days was broken. The gospel became lost because it was changed. When there were no prophets there was no revelation -man was not looking to God for the answers they were looking to themselves and so the doctrines of the true gospel were mixed up with man's interpretations.

     

    It took a 14 year old boy asking God which was the right church to get an answer - he knew to whom to ask the question - he asked God himself - and he got an answer with a personal visit from God the Father and Jesus Christ themselves :D

  8. So you do believe that Jesus was fully man on earth and fully God. So the reference to Jesus, Satan and us being brothers and sisters are only because we are also created by God, not that we are also God. Correct? Do you believe that you also can become God like Jesus in the afterlife?

     

     

    One of the beliefs of the LDS church is summed up in this statement from one of our former prophets Lorenzo Snow - As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be. We believe that God the Father started out like us - on an earth, trialled and tested, found worthy and attained Godhood. The purpose of our life is to do the same. It says very plainly in the Bible that we should become perfect like unto God and Jesus - this is a literal commandment. We are all created in the image of God -we all have the divine potential to become as he is - a God.

     

    We do not believe that we are God's now -but we can be if we do what God requires of us and perfect ourselves. This of course will not be completed in our natural lifetime - we believe we are eternal beings and it will take who knows how long after we die to obtain this Godhood -but we can eventually do it - it's the ultimate goal.

  9. Is there a way to make sure these proxy baptisms are not performed on a person(like myself) or a family member? I have no LDS family members if that helps....
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    Short answer is not really. Even after death you will not be forced to accept any specific religion - so even if the Mormon's do baptise you it will be of little significance if you don't accept the ordinance. Even after death you still have your free agency and get to choose which religion you belong to and how you want to worship God.

     

    Besides - if you don't believe the LDS doctrines to be "true" then it doesn't really matter what they do because it won't mean anything in heaven anyway and won't affect you.

  10. Does this mean a man can only be sealed with a woman who has not been married before? Pages back on this thread I thought it was mentioned that a man can be sealed with more than one woman but a woman only one man. I was thinking of a scenario where a widow and a widower married, both having been sealed before. Or if a widower who was sealed in his first marriage marries a woman who had never been married.

     

     

    A man can be sealed to any woman who has not been sealed to another man before.

     

    A man can marry a woman who has previously been sealed to another man but he cannot be sealed to her. Which means after she dies she will return to the man she is sealed to.

     

    A man can marry a woman who has been married before but he cannot be sealed to her if she is already sealed to another man.

     

    In the case of your scenario - in the first instance where they have both been sealed before they would be married for this life only and when they die they will remain with the spouse they were origianally sealed to.

     

    In the case of your second instance - the man can be sealed to the woman who has never been married and when they die he will have two wives in heaven.

     

    Hope that was clear. Now I'm waiting for you to ask what happens to the children of these couples :D

  11. 1. I read in the link you provided that you are to refrain from hot beverages. So does that mean you can have caffeine - iced coffee, iced tea, Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew? Is there any explanation for why no hot beverages?

     

    2. Who is Lucifer/Satan? Is it true he is considered a brother of Jesus? Would he be God's son also?

     

    3. If a man can have more than one wife in the eternal state, what happens to a woman who has been married more than once? Who does she go with or is her spirit somehow duplicated?

     

    1. "Hot beverages" refer specifically to coffee and tea. We do drink hot chocolate and herbal tea. Back in the day when this revelation was given I do not think they had Iced Coffee or Coke and Pepsi - so these were not specifically mentioned. The point of the Word of Wisdom is to avoid all addictive substances - hence no alcohol, coffee, tea, cigarettes or recreational drugs. Drinking Coke or other caffinated drinks is left to the discretion of each member but it is not encouraged although I know some members who do drink it (I do not). The amount of caffeine in chocolate is considered to be non-addictive :D so yes we can eat that and keep the Word of Wisdom.

     

    2. Yes Lucifer/Satan is God's son as we all are God's children. We refer to Jesus Christ as our elder brother - the firstborn of God the Father, so in that sense Satan was Jesus's brother. We believe that God is the literal father of all our spirits - Jesus Christ and Satan included. Satan turned out to be the wayward child or the black sheep of the family if you will :)

     

    3.The woman stays with the husband she was sealed in the temple to. A woman can only be sealed once. She can remarry but after she dies she will stay with the man she is sealed to.

  12. What bugs me the most?

     

    When people call us non-christian and when people who are not members proclaim to know all about our "cult doctrine" and no matter how much I tell them what they believe is a myth - they refuse to listen to me and critisise the church for things that we don't even believe in.

     

    I have no issue with people not believing in the doctrine of the LDS church as long as it is the correct doctrine they have issues with - it just bugs me if the doctrine they are so critical of is a myth - such as 'your church is a cult because you believe in Polygamy' (no we don't) or 'you believe only Mormons will go to heaven' (again - no we don't). It's ok to ask about these things -I will give you the correct answer if you are genuinely interested - but it is not ok to tell me that I am brainwashed and do not know about the "real truth" of my religion. Reading an article or two by an anti-mormon does not you, an expert make :glare:

  13. Is it really offensive to use the word "Mormon"?

     

    How is homeschooling perceived in general among LDS folks?

     

    No it's not - we in the church have been encouraged to refer to ourselves by our proper title but we most all accept the nickname Mormon because that is what most non-members refer to us as -in fact when I use the proper title people look at me strangely until I say AKA - Mormons - then they are all Oh yeah I have heard of you LOL

     

    I can't speak for the general LDS homeschooling community - I live in Australia - homeschooling is still not common anywhere here. Whenever I mention it people have no opinions on it one way or the other - usually all I get is a "Oh that's nice" or "I could never do that". I don't know any other LDS homeschoolers in my area or anywhere really.

     

    However the LDS church highly encourages gaining a "sound and extensive,continuing education". We believe in educating ourselves throughout our lifetime from good and worthwhile books - so basically the principles are similar to those of a lot of homeschoolers and does not conflict. The church respect parents rights to educate their children however they see fit so long as it complies with the laws of the land ie not illegal. I guess how it is percieved among the LDS population is about the same as it would be in any general population - some think its great - some couldn't care less about it and some REALLY have opinons about it :D

  14. if only! Nope, it isn't quite that simple.

    Before anything else true repentance is needed and a firm resolve to not commit the same sin again. You friend that believes she can do whatever then go to Reconciliation and everything will be find is actually committing a pretty big sin. Hopefully her priest is counseling her.

     

    One of the many blessings in saying one's confession to a regular confessor is that one's confessor can help out with seeing patterns in behavior. When one goes into the confessional it can take half an hour or more (not very common, but it does happen).

     

    The formula that is followed makes it seem like an easy-peesy way to receive God's grace, but it truly is so much more than that. And a priest has the option of not granting reconciliation. "That which you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven."

     

    Thank you for explaining that - I must have watched too many movies with this Catholic stereotype :D

     

    Honestly most of the Catholics I have known are the type that only go to church at Easter and Christmas - it's nice to get the low down from someone who actually practices devoutly.

  15. So, these are spirits (the words "spirit" and "angel" are interchangeable in Mormon teaching?) that have never and will never have bodies? Or does the Mormon faith leaves that possibility open? I understand the notion that spirits have different roles while not in their bodies of flesh, thus the "many types of angels."

     

    And I must assume that a revelation that Noah and Adam are also known as Gabriel and Michael comes from an LDS specific canon.

     

    I cannot verify one way or the other regarding angels such as Seraphim -in the bible they are noted as being winged and only half-human in form - exactly what form they take is open to speculation. The LDS church does have its "mysteries" -things that we do not fully understand because they are of no eternal significance to us. In other words - having an understanding of the angels mentioned in Isaiah is not something that is necessary for us to know about to return to live with God - so it has never been expounded upon.

     

    We know more about the other types of angels - those who where once or will become men- because they feature more predominately in our understanding of God's plan of salvation.These types of angels will or already have recieved a body -they are simply men either not yet born or men who have been born and died who are doing work God has requested of them - they are God s messengers (or angels).

     

    So in answer to your question most of the angels associated with the LDS faith have had or will eventually have bodies. They are people like you and I who God has asked specifically to come to earth acting as an "angel of God". If they have not been born yet they will only have a spirit form - if they have been born and died they will have a body ie the angels who we believe visited Joseph Smith had already been born on earth in Biblical times (Peter, James and John, Elias, Moses, Elijah)

     

    Yes the revelation of Noah/Gabriel and Adam/Michael is of LDS origin - I forget whence it came though - someone help me out please:)

  16. So how do we reconcile making that choice to follow God so clearly but once on earth, not following him? Is it a continuation of free will or someting else?

     

    I am guessing that means LDS does not believe in "once saved, always saved" then either. Is that correct?

     

    When we are born God draws a veil across our mind so we do not remember him or our life beforehand in the pre-existance. God wants us to come back to him based on our own free will and agency and faith. If we remembered our lives before hand we would not sin because we would want to go back there - there would be no such thing as faith because we would have a clear knowledge of where we came from and what we would go back to if we led sinless lives.

     

    The main reason Satan was cast out of Heaven was because his plan was to force everyone back to God - we woulld have no free agency. Without free will/agency we cannot grow, learn,understand or gain wisdom. We would be like sheep - returning to God not really having learned anything form our experience because we were not allowed to make our own choices we would only have ever done what we were told to do with no chance to make mistakes - which is where most of our wisdom is obtained.

     

    No LDS do not believe in "once saved always saved". We believe in "enduring to the end" - after baptism you must continue to live all of God's commandments to prove your commitment to him. Again we believe in faith+works+grace. You have to do everything you can to show God you love him and after you do that his grace will make up for your shortcomings (because we are not perfect God makes up the rest with his grace). God wants a faithful commitment from us for our entire lives - not just on baptism day:)

  17. [if that is an accurate extrapolation of Mormon belief, then a Mormon would say there are no angels as I would call them (being Roman Catholic, I believe there are spirits created by God that were never intended to be human). The spirits that exist with Him are only awaiting their entry into this world.

     

    Mormons believe in angels - very much so - an angel came to Joseph Smith after all:) Also angels are mention in the Bible - Isaiah 6:8 - and we certainly believe in the Bible.

     

    However there are many types of angels in LDS belief - the ones mentioned in the Bible - Seraphim I think- and so forth are one type we know not much about. It appears they have a specific role (of glorifying God) that is different to regular humans. What exactly they are or do- we do not know for sure.

     

    The other type we believe in are simply humans (some of have recieved their bodies, some haven't) who are sent by God to the earth for specific purposes - usually to convey messages from God.

     

    For example - Joseph Smith was visited by many angels - Moroni - who was an actual man from the Book of Mormon - and thus was a resurrected being (ie was given back his body after he died) as well as Peter, James and John from the Bible who gave him the keys of the priesthood. We also believe in the angels Michael and Gabriel etc who where also known as Adam and Noah when they were on the earth.

     

    So yes - we believe in angels each with distinct purposes in their missions.

  18. In the Pre-Existence, a spirit can choose NOT to be born of the flesh, etc? If a spirit can choose not to be born of the flesh, [the language Xuzi used was "All of us were with the Father prior to being born to this Earth (in what we call the Pre-Existance) where we learned of, and accepted His Plan to come to earth, be tempted, and either choose or reject Him..."], what is their role in the Father's kingdom? Do they become cast out like the original spirits that went with Satan? Is there some path they can take that does not separate them from God?

     

    The "Great Council In Heaven" as LDS refer to the meeting when God the Father put forth his "Plan of Salvation" and Satan rejected it along with a third of the spirits and was cast out of heaven has already happened - it was a one time event :001_smile:

     

    Thus all the spirits still waiting in the Pre-existance to be born onto the earth and gain a body already agreed to the Father's plan and agreed that getting a body was a great idea. Those who decided that they did not want a body were cast out with Satan at the time of the Great Council.

     

    Essentially - once you decided to follow the Fathers plan to get a body you don't suddenly change your mind while you are waiting to be born and decide to follow Satan instead :D

  19. I ws just wondering if it was, as a couple of other things are, at all similar to what we Catholics call confession.

     

    I hope I don't offend here but at the risk of going out on a limb the LDS "confession" is not really similar to the Catholic one. From what I have heard (and I'm probably totally wrong) Catholics "confess' and are told to say a few Hail Mary's and everything is right again:confused: Sorry if that is incorrect.

     

    The LDS "confession" is only a part of the process of repentance. If you have done something "wrong" then yes you go to the Bishop and confess it. He will then discuss with you the process of repenting of the sin depending on the seriousness of it.

     

    LDS believe in faith+works+grace. We believe Faith without works is dead - that we are saved by God's grace after all we can do (Because no matter what we do it will never be enough to make up for our sins - but God does expect us to try). This means if you are sorry you have done something then you have to prove it by your actions. Confessing and saying a few prayers is not adequate repentance for some of the major sins (or lesser ones). Basically you have to actually BE repentant and sorry - not just say you are. This means restoring and repairing the sin as much as possible I.E if you stole something you give it back or pay for it - if you cheat on your spouse you have to re earn their trust (tough). You must then never do it again and you must redouble all your efforts to keep all of God's commandments. There are many other ways of showing true repentance - these are just some examples.

     

    I had a friend of another faith who was convinced she could do anything she liked and then just confess and all would be forgiven and she could do the same thing over and over as long as she confessed eventually. This is not acceptable repentance in LDS doctrine. In the bible when Jesus forgave sinners he said - go thy way and SIN NO MORE.

     

    Again hope I didn't offend with my misconstrued information on the Catholic church - but this is what I have seen from many friends I have who claim they are Catholic anyway.

  20. One question that I have is how does LDS deal with the devil?

     

    We believe in the "devil" although in the LDS church he is more commonly referred to as Satan. To understand his role you need to understand what the LDS believe is the "Plan of Salvation". Basically Satan was also a son of God the Father just like Jesus Christ. However his plan for mankind was opposite to that of the Father and as a result he was cast out of heaven with a third of the spirits in the Fathers kingdom following him - these spirits will never be born onto the earth and recieve a body.

     

    Satans plan is to thwart the Father's plan - he is the opposition and the tempter trying to lead us away from eventually returning to live with our Father in Heaven. :001_smile:

     

    Edited to add - yes Satan is a spirit - he will never be born unto the earth and thus never receive a body. All the possessions by evil spirits that you read about in the bible are these outcast spirits trying to gain a body of their own - which they were denied for choosing to follow Satans' plan rather then God the Father's.

  21. Another Mormon popping in here:D

     

    I, too, wondered if a church member would be thought less of if they preferred not to send very young children to a separate class in order to attend an adult class. Would a mom who brings her quiet 3 year old be welcomed into an adult class? Do some mothers of young children prefer to stay home during the Sunday School portion? Is there the option of doing the Sunday School "program" at home? In the Roman Catholic Church we can choose to formally catechize and religiously educate our children at home, without sending them to the parish. Most people do send them to the formal classes and many priests prefer that we do, but technically, we do not have to.

     

    Nothing in the LDS church is compulsory - you are not forced to attend any class or make your children attend classes. Children are welcome in any adult class if the parent feels there is a need for the child to be with them. Family is always first and foremost in our church. However Primary is fun and the kids usually love going to it. It is much more interesting for a child to go learn their lessons with other children and lessons and activities aimed at their age group then it is for them to attend the boring adult class with mum and dad LOL. I have three children aged 4, 3 and 17 months - the older two have mostly gone to their classes and enjoyed it - some days they whine and do not want to go - so then I take them with me :)

     

    My 17 month old is due to start Nursery next month but he will not be going - he will be the only child in Nursery (we have few young children in our branch) and I am opting to keep him with me rather then attend a class on his own at such a young age. Parents are free to make whatever choice they feel is right for their child:)

     

    There is no formal way to do Sunday School at home. We are encouraged to always teach our children at home anyway. We have Family Home Evening (FHE) every Monday night where we give lessons and teach things to the children. Other then that we are encouraged to attend our church meetings on Sunday at the Chapel - it's one of the requirements for obtaining a "card" or Temple Recommend.

     

     

    Editing to add - if there are special circumstances of why you cannot attend church then special provisions can be made for you according to your needs - there is no need for anyone to miss out if they truely can't attend church on a Sunday.

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