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I am re-reading SWB WTM in the newer version :001_smile: and have decided to choose one her recomendations for 5th-8th graders for outlining, I am leaning toward this title.
Any experiences?
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Omnibus...if you go to the veritas press website there is a sample link, but it takes you to google books where you can see the entire book. Read the intro, etc. It will let you know if it is a potential fit for you.
Have you read WTM?
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Have you looked at BJU online. I do not prefer them for most things, but they do a wonderful job with Science...it is a rigorous Science though.
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Have you searched for Rosetta Stone used? It is a wonderful program but it is terribly expensive...but worth it if you have the money.
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My all time favorite is
The Scarlett Pimpernell :001_smile:
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I have done this and it has worked against me more than for me. I just knew that I would never want to switch from what I was using, but things changed...children are different, etc. And I was so sure I would never be tempted to use anything else. Just my experience.
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I think it is common for boys, not to stereotype :tongue_smilie:
You are the best person to push him through this. School will not correct the problem, in fact, it may make it worse. I have known many kids to hide behind the system and just get by in school. They will not know his individual potential like you do and will not necessarily push him to excel.
Just my initial thoughts.
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Are you sure she's going to want to do O2 (middle ages ad nauseum) if she just spent the previous year on it???
I have been rethinking the plan I posted and I have tweaked it some. I just purchased OB II (used for a good price). I am going to start her in it in January, which will match where we are in MOH II. We will all read MOH together, then DD will use OB II for her Literature to go along with the time period. I think it will make it more challenging for her. She is very bright and reads on an early college level and she has been asking for more anyway (specifically Shakespeare). I will actually be spreading OB II and III over the course of 3 years that way, so the pace can be a bit slower and I won't push to cover everything if it gets to be too much.
With this plan I will skip OB I altogether.
6th - OB II - MOH II
7th OB II/III - MOH III
8th - OB III - MOH IV
9th - take a year off and focus on Geography, etc.
10th - OB IV
11th - OB V
12th - OB VI
So, is this better plan?
I hate decisions :confused:
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I liked Omnibus for what it did for us (hey, a rhyme! LOL).
It really fit the bill.
I needed my hand held, you see,
Tho the reading was overkill.
I never would have even tried
to give Son the Great Books
But now he's got a source of pride
Along with his good looks!
His booklist prolly helped him much
To get into his school--
And he enjoyed feeling so smart
Tho we did break a few "rules"
We didn't read quite everything
I tweaked it now and then
But overall it worked for us
And I might use it again
For dd.
Ok, that was terrible. LOL
Love it, Chris...I might PM you some time if that is okay. :)
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I prefer BJUP, To me the questions are more challenging, and the texts are more attractive.
Don't be stuck on grade levels either. I used the same level of science for two kids several grades apart by having them do it orally and then having the older one write down the answers, and I am currently using a grade ahead in history for my youngest.
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I also like BJU Science far better than Abeka. Also, what about BJU English/Writing. It is combined and I really like it. Just my thoughts.
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Looks awesome :001_smile:
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We love Rosetta Stone.
I have a degree in a linguistical field and it is exactly how we were taught to learn language - the immersion method. It rocks and it works.
Latin American is best for North Americans. If you are in Europe, Spanish from Spain.
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I will try to make sense out of all my jumbled thoughts. I am a big worrier and am finding myself overwhelmed.
What we are doing now (well, technically we're taking a break for Christmas) is reading lessons with OPG and writing lessons. I don't know how, but he's surpassed where we are in the lessons. I'm still going through each lesson as a practice/review/make sure he at least hears the rules so that he doesn't miss anything. In the WTM they said that when the child is most of the way through, to go ahead and start them on 1st grade. We will be done by next fall (I'm having a baby in February and am assuming that we'll be taking another school break then too). And next fall is technically when he'd be starting kindergarten if he were going to PS. So should I start him on more 1st grade work or just do kindergarten again? If we were to do "kindergarten" I don't know what we'd do, I think he'd be so bored.
So the plan is in January 2011, to start Galloping the Globe for geography, to give him an idea of what the world looks like. I don't know how long we'll do this for, but I could always make it stretch into next fall if I need to. I plan on starting SOTW after we're done with that.
Also in Jan (he's getting these things for Christmas, which is why we're starting then) he'll be starting MathUSee Primer. I have no idea how long this will take, since he already knows about 1/3 of the stuff they have listed on their table of contents. But I'm going to go through all the lessons just to make sure we don't miss anything or have any gaps. I'm not concerned with having him done with the Primer by the time school starts in the fall, we'll just move on to Alpha when he's done.
In the fall, I'm planning on starting him with First Language Lessons, Writing with Ease and Modern Press Spelling. I'm hoping that we'll be getting around to history and science, but I'm not really worried about it, since we'll already be a year ahead and we can just do it the next year if we have to. In my perfect world, we'd also be doing French, art, and music, but those will be added in baby steps through the years.
Does this sound ok? Too much, not enough? I'm thinking if I start slowly now and gradually build up, then by fall he won't have a hard time getting every thing done. I'm also ok with tweaking things to make it work better for him, to have as little seat work as possible. I feel like I've done enough research to find out curriculum that works well with the majority of people, but am really worried that it won't work for him. I think they'll be ok, the sample lessons I've looked at are things I feel confident he can handle, but I guess I'll just never know until we try it. I'm just worried because we don't have very much money and I would really hate to have to toss curriculum aside and spend more money on something else. Is there much to worry about choosing a wrong curriculum when he's so young?
I think that you are being wise to approach it slowly. I encourage you to let him be your guide. If he gets frustrated, slow down or take a break. He is little and you don't want him to start stressing over school. Trying to keep it fun, light, and challenging all at the same time can be difficult.
I stress over curriculum. I think it is the most difficult part of HS'ing. Most things can work if you wait until the child is ready. Rarely does something just not work at all. You may need to tweak, yes, but if money is tight I doubt you will need to completely toss anything. Just remember, the grass is always greener on the other side...it totally applies to homeschooling. I will be fine with what we are using until a friend stops by to show me her super cool, new find :glare:. Then I will start to question myself...is this best? should I switch too? I think that every mom is tempted to do this. I was switching so often at first, I finally had to make a rule...unless I absolutely hate it and can't use it another day...I try my very best not to switch.
Just remember to have fun. Before you know it, they are too little to enjoy the fun stuff ;)
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Mystery of History. I am too ADD and have too much going on to pull together one million different resources, or even to keep up with that many. I like that if we are crunched, we can simply read and discuss the lesson and then move on. If we have more time, I assign more reading from other books, etc. We use VP Cards, rather than the kids making their own cards for each lesson (it was grueling). Each child has a timeline book that we paste timeline figures in (we use the printable CD from homeschool in the woods). About every three weeks, we take a history day and work on timeline instead. My youngest DD, who loves history and can't get enough, has plenty of access to other books on the subjects, including SOTW - which she reads on her own and loves.
In the earlier years we tried SL, MFW, and VP and I just couldn't make them work for me. I can't take something complex and reduce it - I feel horrible and guilty, etc. I find it easier to take something that is one volume, like MOH, and add to it. SOTW could have this simplicity too, but DH will not allow it to be our spine. He is the history lover, so I rely on his input and say for this subject:001_smile:
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It looks interesting, but I don't know anyone who has every used it.
ETA: The reviews look good : )
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I also like adding Fix it Grammar (by IEW) alongside IEW.
Hmmm...that isn't a bad idea either.
Since they get the grammatical structure and parts of speech with Latin, right?
Good idea, I think I will look into that.
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Dd has never had Latin before. I am leaning toward Latina Christiana.
Any experiences or thoughts?
Also, if a 7th grader is studying Latin, should she also study Grammar :001_huh:
Thanks :)
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I am leaning toward Omnibus, but am not totally sure. I haven't even looked into all of the High School options. What else should I consider and why?
As always, thanks :)
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I have already altered this plan and have listed it in a new post below).
DD completes MOH 2 and 3 with us this year and next year (6th/7th). Then, in 8th grade, she goes into Omnibus II. This will put her in Omnibus III in 9th, IV for 10th, etc, etc. She will skip Omnibus I altogether. We have had so much ancient history and haven't spent much time in anything else. I know that there will be some overlap between MOH 2/3 and Omnibus II, but at least it isn't another repeat of Ancient history and it gets her on the right schedule :tongue_smilie:
Edited to add...our other thought was this...
MOH 2 - 6th
MOH 3 - 7th
MOH 4 - 8th
Geography/Civics Study - 9th
Omnibus I or IV - 10th
Omnibus II or V - 11th
Omnibus III or VI - 12th
Thoughts...opinions...throw them out there, I can take it...
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I keep going back and forth on this. DD uses BJU English and Writing.
I have considered switching to IEW next year, but then what about grammar? If I put her in a Latin Program, would that take place of grammar?
Honest opinions wanted, I am open and don't even have a slight leaning as to which one I want to use - BJU English or IEW/Latin?
Thanks :001_smile:
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I personally would use Saxon. I have used Singapore and BJU in the past and I find Saxon more thorough (in my opinion) and far more teacher friendly. When you get to 5/4 and up, the textbook is written to the student. They can eventually work independently for math (unless he has a question, etc). My son, who isn't a math kid, reads his lesson and does all of his work himself. I make corrections and then have him correct his errors. If he gets the problem wrong a second time, I sit down and work through it with him (this is rare). He is in 5/4 this year. I can't say enough about Saxon.
Singapore is a good math program, but it required a lot more of me as the parent, especially in the upper grades where there isn't such a thorough solutions manual (just answers whereas Saxon actually shows you step by step how to solve the problem). I feel like Saxon has everything Singapore has, but Singapore doesn't offer everything Saxon offers...again, just my opinion.
Edited to add - I also have 4 children, so I completely understand how difficult it is to get through it all in a day.
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I am not necessarily saying that your choice is bad, but you need to think about this...are you a math gal? If not, do yourself a favor and stick with Saxon, where there is a solutions manual with more than just the answers. Saxon works the problems out for you so you can see how they get to the answer. This may not seem like such a big deal in the younger grades but as they get older it is a really big deal. I had to switch from Singapore for that reason, even though we liked it. I am loving the change, having a thorough solution's manual and lessons that give better instruction as to how to complete the problems given.
If it helps in your decisions, my math-minded Dd when from 5B to Saxon 8/7 with no difficulty. I also had a difficult time placing her in Saxon because the two approaches and terminology are so different.
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I haven't read that resource, but I think if I had it to do over again (oh, wait a minute...I have an 18 month old, I do have it to over again :D)...
I would...
Focus on Reading, Phonics, Math, and Handwriting until at least 4th (maybe 5th) grade. I would read, read, read, read to them, but not stress about a specific history/science curriculum. I would let any study in those areas be child-led then. You can do those things in a relatively short time period, then you know that they will go into middle school strong in the basics, the necessities. Middle School Science and History are typically written as an introduction, with no pre-requisites for understanding.
Just my two cents and rambling thoughts.
History: The Definitive Visual Guide
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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What a great gift for you...I mean, for your DH :tongue_smilie:
Have you flipped through it? What are your initial thoughts?
Thanks :)