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My 3 yo has something going on and I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction. He's been in OT and Speech since he was 18 months old. We also found out then that he had a leaky gut so he's GFCF also for the most part. He's been at our local public school all year in there inclusive special ed preschool. He's met is pronunciation speech goals for the year. He also has met his OT goals except pencil grip and cutting with scissors.

At his IEP his teacher told me that he still cannot rote count past 5, still gets numbers and letters mixed up with colors. If she holds up a number 5 he'll say red.

At home I've noticed that he asks the same question over and over :

He'll say, "What is this?" I'll say, "it's a marker." We'll go back and forth with those exact words 4 times and then he'll repeat me,"Oh, it's a marker" that happens all the time. Or I"ll say," go pick up the cat." and he'll look at me and say," go pick up the bat?" Lots of mistakes where he hears a rhyming word for what I've said. He has had his hearing tested 3 times all normal. He has had ear infections. He has a lot of anxiety anything different from the routine makes him cry. Even after going all year he still doesn't want to leave our house. Even if its to something really fun- he always would choose to stay home. After we get going he's usually ok- but getting him out the door is a trial.

The school wants to test him for auditory processing disorder but tells me that they usually don't test this young so it may be inconclusive. Ehat else should I be looking at?

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My 3 yo has something going on and I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction. He's been in OT and Speech since he was 18 months old. We also found out then that he had a leaky gut so he's GFCF also for the most part. He's been at our local public school all year in there inclusive special ed preschool. He's met is pronunciation speech goals for the year. He also has met his OT goals except pencil grip and cutting with scissors.

 

Well, I'm not in the business of diagnosing any one, but why is a 3 year old being expected to cut with scissors or hold a pencil?

 

At his IEP his teacher told me that he still cannot rote count past 5

 

I don't see anything odd about that, but that's just me.

 

still gets numbers and letters mixed up with colors. If she holds up a number 5 he'll say red.

 

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that he isn't mixing anything up: that is a perfect description of synesthesia.

 

At home I've noticed that he asks the same question over and over :

He'll say, "What is this?" I'll say, "it's a marker." We'll go back and forth with those exact words 4 times and then he'll repeat me,"Oh, it's a marker" that happens all the time.

 

Again, not diagnosing... he is attempting to process what you are saying. You are saying words into space, they have to leave space and enter his head, and then his brain has to dissect what those words mean. If his brain is still on "it's", then "marker" isn't being heard (from a neurological standpoint, anyway).

 

Or I"ll say," go pick up the cat." and he'll look at me and say," go pick up the bat?" Lots of mistakes where he hears a rhyming word for what I've said. He has had his hearing tested 3 times all normal. He has had ear infections.

 

See above.

 

He has a lot of anxiety anything different from the routine makes him cry. Even after going all year he still doesn't want to leave our house. Even if its to something really fun- he always would choose to stay home. After we get going he's usually ok- but getting him out the door is a trial.

The school wants to test him for auditory processing disorder but tells me that they usually don't test this young so it may be inconclusive. Ehat else should I be looking at?

 

A neurodevelopmental specialist. They will know how to test. Beyond that, many people on the Autistic/Aspergers spectrum do not. like. change. It doesn't matter how "fun" it is. However, there are other things that can cause a child to behave in that manner, so it is best for an ND specialist to take a look at him.

 

 

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Alot of your situation sounds just like what we've gone through! My son was also in the special needs preschool in ps and followed special ed until I homeschooled this year. My son still asks the same questions over and over, so that's still an area that I'm working on. I suggest seeing a developmental pediatrician that can assess and follow your son's treatment. He or she will know which direction to take in terms of neurological testing and treatments. Good luck to you! :grouphug:

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Thanks to all of you who responded.

 

As far as what the school has told me- I don't care about the pencil grip, or scissors- I didn't even ever think he's pronunciation was too bad. He's only 3- I've had older kids that have had learning issues and I'm in the better late than early mindset.

My concern is that I don't know how he is processing information. He seems to have a good memory- once the info is in there. And I'm not sure how much to push him about breaking his routine. Its May now and every single time I've taken him to school he's not happy- sometimes just tearing up- sometimes crying- and thats when he knows he's going and has been prepared for it. With four older kids sometimes things come up and I'll have to run out to pick someone up- or they forgot something etc. Then its a nightmare getting him in the car. He'll cry and say his stomach hurts. Many times he will vomit. But he won't stay home either. Sooo- I'd love for him to have something thats a known problem- a label- a set of directions would be nice while I'm wishing for things....

Does anyone think he is just a kid with anxiety? Or could it be something on the spectrum? We have a good nuerologist that one of my older boys sees for a seizure disorder, I'm going to get a referral for the younger guy and see what he thinks.

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Yes, he could have anxiety. He may not be meshing well with the center for a number of reasons - from abuse to stress caused by a disruptive child in the class to lack of routine in the center to just still really needing the comfort of his mom. Could he receive those therapies independently? I don't want my toddler away from me all day every day so the school provides them at a weekly scheduled time for the ones she needs. I take her, wait in the lobby, and then bring her home. They do constantly pressure me to have her attend full time (they make more money that way and makes their therapy scheduling more flexible) but I have so far declined.

 

 

 

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I agree that it could be anxiety. My 3yo son has severe anxiety (among other things) and attends a special ed preschool also where he gets other services, but our district preschool is only for 2 hours a day, three days a week.

 

Preschool has been a wonderful experience for him, but if his anxiety had been untreated, it definitely would have been a nightmare.

 

Hopefully the neurologist can help you get some idea of what's going on. :)

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