I've been using Exercises in English from Loyola Press. I believe it was recommended in one of the earlier versions of TWTM. What is recommended in the newest version? I'm looking specifically at grades 3-6. Exercises in English has worked b/c it's not a lot of parent work, but at this point my DD is getting bored with it (the format never changes). Thanks!

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Thanks for the input - I looked at your blog, too! Thank you!

Thanks for the link and the input!

I searched but couldn't find many posts... Has anyone used this program? I just found out about it and it looks like a refreshing change of pace... I'm really burned out on all the planning. Thoughts? Input? I have four DD (6, 7, 8, and 10). I was all set to try OM but now my thoughts are in a jumble. Thanks!

Regena - thank you so much for posting!!!!

I don't think it's secular - on the intro pages the author specifically mentions wanting to expand a Biblical worldview.

Thanks for the tips and suggestions. I do let my daughter type her finals - or I help her type them. I think she just plain doesn't like to rewrite anything (surprise for a 9-year old!). OhElizabeth - I like the idea of the editing workbook. =D She's actually quite good at proof-reading and loves grammar... she used to do the Evan-Moor paragraph editing and she has been asking to do those again. Hmmm. Maybe I can combine WT and the Evan-Moor into a new weekly thing. Thanks so much!

My 9yo DD (4th grade) is working through WT2. She actually really likes the program. After WT1 I thought I'd switch it up and do some creative writing with Igniting Your Writing but she begged to go back to WT so we did. She does fine with almost every... except writing revisions. She puts up a stubborn fuss like I've never seen. She's a great kid - usually does her work without problems and is quite independent. She just hates to do the final draft. I mean big time. I've let her do one draft many times so long as she adds in her details at that time. But after reading several articles on the importance of revisions, I have tried hard to have her do it. But the fuss... I don't have any interest in having a battle of wills each week. Especially when I don't know that I care much about all these drafts to begin with. My question is - at age 9, is it really necessary to do this? Rewriting another author's work week after week would be hard for me to do, let alone doing it basically twice. I get that the creative aspect is adding in your own details but I'm starting to wonder... I'm not knocking the program - I think it's solid and the grammar and outlining are excellent. Just wondering specifically about the writing. On the other hand, she whined and complained just as much with the Igniting Your Writing written assignments so maybe it is just her? or the age?? Any other users have this problem? Solutions? Suggestions??? Desperate for ideas here!!

I just want to say THANK YOU to everyone that's posted! This has been a very interesting and enlightening thread, and I've learned so much!

Okay - got that OOP is out-of-print... I was in the mindset of a publisher, not an abbreviation. Oops. I still don't know what CLE is. I know there's a sticky list somewhere... :001_smile:

What is OOP and CLE?? I feel like a dummy asking, but I've never heard of those! :blushing:

So Dian... Do you think doing this program with four kids would be too much (for the younger ages - I can see that once they are in the Lower School everything changes)? I wrote on the CTT board and just read the author's reply - it does sound like will be many hours of me reading and helping with the questions responses for my little ones... Next year I will have a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd grader - all would be in either 1st Step or Starter or elementary (plus a 5th grader but she'll be independent for the most part).

Khall - Thank you so much for the information on CTT. It is *really* hard to find anything about the program - I didn't even know about the Yahoo group. Thanks for passing that along. In looking at the program, it's hard to tell how much parent prep there is, stuff like that. I'll look for answers at the yahoo group. Audrey - In looking over the OM materials, I had the sense that the 5th grade was a good fit for the beginning Logic stage and doesn't seem a huge departure from what we've been doing with our (loose) classical. Thank you so much for your insightful and detailed replies!!! This was exactly the information I was looking for. I appreciate it so much.

Thank you both! I also asked my oldest daughter to look and research the different options - she's thrilled! =)