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I'm late to the conversation, but it sounds like you've made a good decision. It's what I would do if I was in your shoes.
Thanks, that is reassuring!
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Well, after doing some research, I have decided to purchase All Things Fun and Fascinating and we can bounce back and forth between SWI Level A and ATFF as we need to. I think this will work out really well for us and, after reviewing ATFF, I am excited to use it.
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Have you seen their decision path for deciding what to do when?
http://iew.com/sites/default/files/images/IEW_2014_Pathway.jpg
Yes, thanks, I have seen it but it was good to look at it again. I'm thinking maybe we need to start the theme book ATFF and use it for a while to do more of what we have been doing before moving forward past where we currently are. I was hoping to hear what others thought who have more experience with IEW than I do though.
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I am doing IEW with my two 9.5 year old boys. First we did the Bible Heroes theme book and it worked pretty well for us as an introduction to IEW's method.
Now we are doing the Student Writing Intensive Level A. I feel that my sons could use some extra practice at the point where we are now, which is where they have to include at least one strong verb, adjective, adverb, a who/which clause and a because clause.
They especially need more practice with putting in the who/which and the because clauses. So I am hesitant to just continue to move forward before they really have this mastered. I am wondering if maybe I should purchase another theme book and start it from the beginning but using the checklist for where they are now, instead of how they normally start off a theme book with a smaller check list.
I'm not sure if that makes sense or not and not sure if that is the right way to go. What do you IEW experts think would be the best thing to do at this point?
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Yes, though you might take it slowly. Maybe consider adding the workbook as you work the first book over 12 months? My dd would do a chapter in the text and then the workbook section for that chapter. We didn't use the CD. I added in some random delcension and conjugation quiz I found online to help her memorize the paradigms.
Thanks, this sounds like good advice. I ordered the workbook.
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Yeah, I wish I had the time to keep up with it.
I totally understand. I stopped updating mine also. Just not enough time in the day to get it all done.
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Your Welcome ! I just spent the last couple of weeks putting a ton of Latin in Quizlet. The kids like it as they play games. We also listen to the audio till they know the pronunciations, then just have a memory sheet to read from.
Checking out Quizlet now, thanks! (p.s. I still miss your blog:)
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I purchased all the books and answer keys with audio CD. Then went back and ordered the workbooks as my son needed more practice. Instead of flash cards we use quizlet.
Thanks Jana, I appreciate your help. So, the text book, the work book the answer key and the audio CD. I will make my own flash cards, if we need them. We make our own now and play a round of the memory game several times a week to stay fresh on our vocabulary.
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If you want to start earlier, you could use something like LP for 5th or 6th and move into Wheelock's in 7th.
I think this may be the direction we are headed. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Two words.... Memoria Press! IMO, they are the best.
We tried them early on and didn't much care for them but thanks for the suggestion.
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Had you thought to continue with Linney's Latin Class? The author of GSWL has free audio up to help. It won't last you forever and you'll be back in this spot eventually. But it seems like a good next step.
BTW, Memoria Press does offer classical pronunciation CDs (but not DVDs) for their products. Unfortunately, the Forms series is very writing intensive as written. You could modify it - using the TM & workbook key to do most of the work orally & the translations on a white board. They also don't have a ton of translation exercises -- some, but not oodles.
Actually I had not looked at Linney's Latin Class so thanks for bringing it to my attention. I looked at it and I think I would rather try to go with something that we can stick with for a while.
When we first started Latin, we started with Prima Latina and didn't much care for it. So I ruled out Memoria Press early on but thanks for the suggestion.
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I've been looking ever since we finished GSWL, and the only one that I like, and my kids as well, is Cambridge. We enjoyed the translating in GSWL and Cambridge appears to have quite a bit of it. Only downside for me is that its online and I prefer paper, but my kids seem to like the computer. We've only done the free samples so far and planning to start in the fall.
I'm not sure if it's parts to whole though. It's just the one that seemed most like GSWL to us so I thought I'd reply.
Thanks for posting. I have not looked at Cambridge because I was thinking it was whole to parts but I will check it out. I may be missing something good:). Thanks!
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Latin Prep has slowed my son down a lot. He is almost 9, and finished First Language Lessons 4. It is harder than Lively Latin for sure. But could be a step from GSWL, and does have translation consistently from the start. You would have to work beside him, no doubt about that.
OK, thanks for the feedback and setting expectations. I am planning to work with them and learn it alongside of them and we will likely take it very slowly at first. I was all set to order this until I saw that Henle has a pronunciation DVD but then realized it is ecclesiastical pronunciation and I would rather have classical, so I think I am back to Latin Prep as our best option.
What parts of Latin Prep do you guys use? (text, workbooks, answer book, pronunciation CD?)
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Henle, without question. We have tried many Latin curricula, and my oldest (and now my youngest) had the best success at the stage you are at with Henle. We did a year of Lively Latin with younger and it was a mistake--I wish we had started with Henle at 8 and just moved very slowly. We began Henle (with him) a couple of months ago and he has learned more in that time than in all the time with LL--something about the way it is approached. I can't quite put my finger on it, though. Older is now breezing through Wheelocks (although I am quite sure he will hit a large nearly-impregnable wall by Chapter 15 or so) because of the skills and content he learned with Henle.
Here's the pronunciation DVD that we use: http://www.amazon.com/Henle-Latin-1-Pronunciation-CD/dp/B001F37V8K/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1433028100&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=henle+latin+dvd
I was just about sold on this until I saw that the pronunciation DVD is for ecclesiastical rather than classical. Do you know if anyone sells a classical pronunciation CD or DVD (or even on-line files) with classical pronunciation for Henle Latin 1?
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I noticed that Henle Latin 1 starts with 5th graders so that might work if there is pronunciation help. Does anyone know if that exists?
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We did GSWL then Lively Latin 1 & 2, and now we are doing Latin Prep. So very happy with all three and the progress my kids have made.
Latin Prep was one I was considering. Do you think I could go from GSWL to LP with 9.5 year olds?
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It has sentence translation and paragraph translation a little later. Lively Latin 2 has whole pages of long translation. The last half has 1.5 pages.
I think we will go on to Weelock's after Lively Latin 2. My boys have been studying Latin slowing for more than4 years now.
Weelock's would be too difficult for young students.
Do you know how far into Lively Latin 1 you have to get before they start sentence translation?
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What are your goals?
To be able to read Latin works in high school. I am learning along with them and we have really been enjoying it (or at least I have:). We really enjoy the translation exercises. I guess they also need to be able to converse in it to be counted as a foreign language credit?
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Not a good choice for kids that young, but for older students I would recommend Wheelock - it has all of that (the pronunciation help is available free on the official Wheelock website). Some people find it a bit difficult to use, but if you the Grote guide as well it makes a huge difference.
Do you know what people use before Wheelock?
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I have only really looked at the first two units of Lively Latin but noticed that it did not have sentence translation. Does it add sentence translation later in the course?
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I have been researching various Latin curricula for what seems like forever and still am not sure which way to go when we finish Getting Started with Latin, which we love.
My sons are approx. 9.5 years old (one is pencil phobic) and we are about half way through 4th grade.
I am looking for a Latin curriculum that is:
parts to whole, grammar approach
has translation exercises (would be nice to have both Latin to English and English to Latin)
has a CD or DVD for pronunciation help
is Classical pronunciation.
We have tried Latin for Children but I did not like the DVD lessons because they chanted so fast it was hard to understand and keep up with them and I don't recall seeing translation practice. I also have Lively Latin which I may need to look at again. I also just purchased Latin Book One (which was described as "Henle lite" in a review on Paula's archives) from Amazon because it sounded pretty good but then I realized that we won't have any pronunciation help with it. I am wondering if we could go straight to Henle but thinking it might be too much at this point (does it have classical pronunciation help?).
Any suggestions?
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bump...I'm curious about this also.
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Clarification: my post was mainly a vent. Maybe I'd be more receptive if he'd actually ask instead of just assuming I will. He tends to make the requests
in statements, rather than questions. Example: instead of him saying, "I have some marketing I'd like you to do for me", I might be more receptive if he said,
"Would you be willing to help me with some marketing?" I know WHY he's asking and I really don't have a problem with helping him out, it's just the way it was requested.
As for the calling him once a day to make a request, I most likely won't, it was just a fun thought. But if he gets in the habit again, I just might! B)
I totally get what you are saying and was lol about your idea to call him once a day. Very funny.
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IEW: I'm stumped on what to do next. Advice?
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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That's great, thanks!