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Can you give me an example of the mental math section in the HIG? I'll tell you if we've done anything similar in Math in Focus or if there is anything comparable. :001_smile:
There are "mental math lists" in the back of the book, and the user is referred to them every so often. It is a list of math facts to be completed by memory. For example, today had lots of problems with 12+6=.... and the student was to practice adding the ones and thus figure out the sum in their head.
I'm still trying (and trying, and trying, and trying) to figure out how to use the HIG, so I'm not sure how often this is used. But it was sure a help today and reinforced the lesson well.
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:lurk5: Anyone??
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My PM HIG has a mental math section at the end of the book....is there anything like that set up in the Math In Focus? Or, is it maybe included in some other way?
Thanks!
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Would this one be the one at the end of May? I will be driving over from VA to attend this year...just wanted to make sure I am not missing another one.
Yes - end of May.
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I'm going to a homes school convention for the first time next month, and I'm wondering if I should hold off on my Rainbow Resources order. Does anyone have an idea of how pricing compares?
This is the beg NC homeschool convention, if that makes any difference.
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Is it one page, front and back? Can't tell for sure from the online samples. We're looking for colorful review, and I'm trying to get an idea of length....
Thanks!
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My kids need constant review, so I'm looking for something spiral to compliment what we do in Singapore.
Any ideas?? Have any combos that work well??
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We're doing a "Singapore test run" during the tail end of our school year, and I really, really like the program. But, I'm having some problems with it and I'm hoping for some suggestions:
The Good:
- Singapore is colorful & visually engaging. This is a plus for my visual kiddos.
- Text is NOT written to the student, so I am forced to sit down with the child and explain things, which is a good thing.
- Conceptual, not 'formulaic', which is a plus
The Problem Spots:
- Juggling all the different books, figuring out what actually needs to be done in a day.
- I wasn't taught this way, (my own education was formulaic all the way) so it is difficult for me to "get it", so I can teach it to my kids. For example, switching numbers around to do mental subtraction is brilliant, but brand new to me.
Is there such a thing as Singapore with a little clearer layout for the teacher?? Or any other suggestions?
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I'm looking for colorful, conceptual learning with a good dose of spiral review for my 3rd grader next year. Would Singapore + TT work, do you think?
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I'm considering it for my kiddos - I read lots of rave reviews, but I'd like to know the good, the bad, and the ugly before I make a decision....
We've spent the year with CLE Math, which I love. However, they aren't learning well with it, and both got very poor math scores on their standardized tests. I need something that forces me to teach pretty actively...
My concern: My 8yo is a very visual learner, with lots of focus issues, and is very non-auditory. He's bright, but if he doesn't have steady review he rapidly regresses. How does RS work with this kind of learner??? He is having a terrible time learning his upper math facts, so he'd place all the way back to RS level B.
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Did you do any practice tests with him? If so how did he perform on those? If he's been doing well in his regular math program, I'm wondering if the format of the test somehow threw him off?
I think if this were my child I would try giving a practice test similar to the IOWA, just to try to pinpoint where exactly the problems arose. If he really isn't remembering/understanding how to do the computations (he seems to grasp the concepts well) I would look at whether he just needs more practice/solidification of facts, or needs an entirely different approach. You could also have him do sample pages or placement tests from several other curricula--maybe he is just used to the format of the curriculum he has been using and doesn't know how to generalize to a different question format. There's also the slight possibility of a testing fluke--he could have gotten off partway through and answered many of the questions on the wrong line! Basically, I would want to track down more specifically where the testing trouble came from, then I would have an idea of how to go about addressing it.[/quote
We actually have done quite a bit of math fact practice. Time tests, flash cards, etc,. In addition, he actually went through first grade twice. Not for academic reasons, though. He did K and 1st at home, then we enrolled him in a private classical school, and even though he tested into 2nd, we placed him in 1st for maturity reasons. So, two solid years of first grade math, lots and lots of math fact practice, followed by a decently thorough 2nd grade math curriculum. (He did CLE 100 at home, followed by Saxon first grade at the private school.)
I'm inclined to think changing the entire approach is in order, like you suggested, just not sure what to change to....
Oh, as far as testing fluke goes, good consideration! I watched him fill in the answers, and I can verify that he was on the right problem. However, I think the numbers were slightly swayed by his unfamiliarity with how to use scratch paper - copy the problem down, calculate the answer, etc. A few problems were certainly due to that, but he had gotten lots of stuff wrong before we got to that section.
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In day-to-day work I'm seeing that he usually grasps concepts very quickly, and finds repetition tedious. Though he understands the concepts of addition, subtraction, and multiplication, the memorization of the actual facts is not coming along well at all. He's okay with sums up to 10 or so, but beyond that he has a terrible time, which has made for awfully slow going with the last several CLE light units.
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What to do?? We got our test scores back today. As I expected, math performance was very low. I need to make a plan for next year, and would appreciate input!
This is for my 2nd grade 8yo. We did the CogAT, where he scored an overal 9A. His lowest score was a 92%, with everything else a solid 99%. So, it seems his ability is fairly high.
Now, for the IOWA results:
Math Total: 44%
Math Concepts: 72%
Math Problems: 42%
Math Computation: 21%
So, obviously what we are doing & have done thus far with math is not working. Really not working! The rest of his test scores were very good/excellent. Despite bombing math his complete composite was 98%.
What do I do? Where to from here?
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....to be able to quote large paragraphs verbatim from a book she has only heard once or twice? I sat down with our daughter this afternoon to read a story, and quickly found that she was "reading" it to me instead.
Of course it isn't unusual for a preschool child to "pretend read". However, the odd thing is that she hasn't heard this story for weeks, and even then heard it only once or twice. Large, lengthy paragraphs mostly word perfect, with much greater accuracy than I could ever achieve.
Anyone else find their kiddos doing this? Any other skills or strengths that tend to parallel this??
Thanks!
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I can't find details on the targeted age range of this course. My older two will be in 2nd and 3rd next year. Would this be a good pick for them, or should I keep looking? They've done SSL & a bit of Prima Latina. I'm looking for something that would work for visual learners & not be too teacher intensive.
Thanks!
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I've been looking through the Teaching Textbooks samples, and I'm not seeing the quizzes. Most of TT3 will be review for my son, but I think he should still go through it. If I purchase grade 3, can I access just the quizzes and jump from one quiz to the next until we find his skill level?? Or is there a system set-up that makes the user do the lessons sequentially?
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Can anyone give me an average for a grade 3 or 4 lesson?
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This is for my 8yo son who is finishing 2nd grade. I need to find out if Singapore is a good "fit" for him, so we're using this last quarter of the school year to test drive it. He took the placement test for 2A....and scored 21%, which was startling, to say the least. I started him in 1A, but we're whizzing through, using the textbook and test booklet only. He understands number bonds within 10, and does well with those.
His big hangup (and the reason he totally flunked the 2A test) is addition within 20. Many of the sums above 10 give him tons of trouble and we can't seem to get past it. This seems to be addressed in book 1B, so I'd like to get recommendations about which books to get. It is remedial work for him, so I want to be thorough, but still let him catch up to his grade level & not get bogged down. I have the textbook and workbook - what other books should I add?
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My DD with processing and working memory issues made it through SM 1A, got really bogged down in 1B because of inability to maintain automaticity with math facts. That is when we added in CLE, doing 100-110. We did 2A with CLE 200-205 and then tried 2B without CLE. SM alone was a huge mistake. My kids have always placed appropriately back and forth between SM and CLE so I really think something else is up besides just not getting CLE.
Thank you so much - yes, I too think that something else is up. It is helpful to know that you have been able to switch back and forth between the two programs.
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:iagree: How was he doing in CLE? Did you have any indications that he was struggling? Were the problems he got wrong on the placement test things you had covered or were they new topics that he had not learned yet?
Lisa
He did very well through the beginning of the year - the constant review of CLE was good for him. As we've gotten further through the year it has taken longer and longer for him to get through the lessons. He now dreads math in a big way. He hasn't mastered the math facts.
He's recently been diagnosed with some sensory issues, and I know he isn't correctly processing the things he hears. I'm finally understanding that he is very visual, which is one reason why we're trying a colorful, 'conceptual' program to see how he does with it. So, lots going on in this kiddo which we haven't nailed down yet - still finding where/how to get appropriate testing done.
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Still awaiting official results. Here's my guess from watching them mark their answers:
Child #1, 2nd grade - really, really poorly.
Child #2, 1st grade - average
I'll try to update in a week or so when we get our results.
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My husband and I decided that we'd spend the rest of this school year seeing how our visual 8yo takes to Singapore. He's just at the end of 2nd grade CLE Math, around lightunit 209, I think.
I gave him the placement test for Singapore 2A. And he scored 21%. I was amazed. We've been on a break the last couple weeks, but really, 21%????? I marked his errors and gave him the opportunity to correct, and he pulled the grade up maybe as far as a 30%.
So. This kiddo is obviously not grasping some things. At first they were huge silly mistakes, like adding instead of subtracting. When I permitted him to try again he did more things right, but still couldn't come up with the right answer to many of them. Out of 6 problems with three digit addition and subtraction he missed 5. Before our break he was getting these problems right, though it takes him a long time and he dreads math. Now I'm really wondering what is going on. This is a smart boy, but something is clearly not clicking, and he's not retaining the information he has "learned".
I just went to the homeschool store and set him up to begin (again) at the beginning. Singapore 1A, with 1B to follow. Sound about right? I'm hoping he'll breeze through and whatever is going awry will be fixed with a new approach.
Any other ideas???
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My 8yo would, I think, place in level 2A - he'd know a good deal of it already, but it would help him get familiar with concepts before plunging into 2B.
However, he doesn't know about "number bonds". Should I have him go way back into 1A or 1B so he has a chance to learn those?
Thanks!
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We're considering math on the computer for one of my kiddos, and I'm trying to figure out our options. What else should I be considering? I know about:
Teaching Textbooks....a complete curriculum, some use it a year ahead...What is the approach - formulaic or conceptual, mastery or spiral?
Math Whiz...intended as a complete curriculum, I think? ahead or behind grade level? mastery or spiral? pros and cons?
Dreambox....a supplement, conceptual?
What other options do we have?
Using Singapore & Horizons together - which books exactly???
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I'm setting up Singapore as our math spine, and I want to use Horizons for ongoing spiral review. I'm assuming I'd use just the Horizons workbooks. But which Singapore books? HIG + Textbook + Workbook? Or would I also use CWP + Extra Practice??
This is for my rising 3rd grader. He's very math capable (according to the CogAT) but currently underachieving (according to the IOWA). We've used non-conceptual material up to this point, so I'm hoping the Singapore will help remedy the situation. Without constant spiral review, though, we quickly lose what we work on.