Thank you everyone.
Tara, I think I do understand a bit more, thank you for explaining that. My boys have already gone through rod & staff 1st grade but their reading, phonics are very weak. My oldest when I asked him what he thougth of reading he said, "I hate it". He doesnt usually say these things unless he means it. I realized we struggled all year. He hates to sound words out and so almost always guesses and I have to make him sound it out while he is dreading it. So I was thinking of stepping backwards a bit and getting their phonics and reading going better. So I was thinking of ETC, AAS w/ Shurley english, w/ a few phonics games. But I wasnt sure if I still needed to add some phonics or not?? It gets so confusing when some people will say ETC (online) is "reading not phonics" and then when I pull it up and watch their website they call it "phonics"?? I was also thinking of adding PAL because it would for sure have phonics, work on their handwriting and also some games???