Pam "SFSOM" in TN
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So, what works for you guys? What would you like *me* to do next time we disagree? How could I better express my convictions while communicating respect when our viewpoints are mutually incompatible?
Eliana, you are IMO (and in print at least ;-)) the ultimate example on this board of loving mercy and walking humbly. You seek not only to be understood, but to understand. And for that I appreciate you publicly and privately, and I don't want you to change a thing.
And now I turn from addressing the Eliana "you" to addressing the rest of "you," with myself in the mix.
As for what we can do better? I don't want to be talked to even indirectly like I'm on an adversarial talk show. Or rather, that I'm being talked *about* on an adversarial talk show. I don't come here to be slammed because of my beliefs and opinions or sneered at ala Olberman or Limbaugh. I even shrivel up a little when people I care about attach an "I agree" to snarky, venom-dripping, dismissive posts directed at other groups. (And you know what? They don't even have to be my group.)
When we say things such as, "Well, that's a typical Jewish response," or "What do you expect from Christians, anyway?" or "The agnostic mind will of course indulge in that, because they are not accountable to anyone or anything but their own so-called "conscience" or "Anti-abortion folks like to save the fetus, but they don't do a thing for the children" or "I just can't stand liberals," we are not opening doors for dialog. We are not holding out a lifeline for the drowning and the lonely and the sad and the alienated -- we are stomping their fingers as they try to climb on the life boat.
We're saying, "Sorry. No understanding for you. You clearly have no well-reasoned foundation for believing as you do, and anyway, I don't want to hear about it because it might mess up my own tidy position and we could not have that. Wouldn't be prudent."
(That's my favorite Bush Sr-ism, and it was the perfect place to put it. Anyway. Ahem. Sorry.)
I'm guilty of indulging in snark on occasion. I'm guilty of being oversensitive. I'm guilty of being overinvested in this board and how we interact with one another. I realize that. And if I'm guilty of offending you, any of you, let me know publicly or privately. I will do what I can to make it right, publicly or privately.
Just know, please, that if you're seeking to turn me from my evil or misguided opinions, meekness and fear and reasoning as you give your answer will do more to woo me than snickering at my ignorant opinion and sneering sarcasm. Really. I'm not impressed by that. If you're seeking just to push me away, well, that's another matter. But why share, if you don't wish to be understood as well? Why hold the truth and not share it with grace and love past "us four and no more."
Two quotes, since Battlemaiden got me thinking about Churchill today:
Courage is rightly esteemed the first of human qualities... because it is the quality which guarantees all others.
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.
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May we all be courageous. May we all freely give and receive kindness and grace. May we have the courage to rise and speak our truth in love, and may we have the courage to sit down and truly listen.
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I was going to say diabetes too. My older son had a classmate in ps who exhibited the SAME symptoms and the doctor misdiagnosed her. It is a wonder that she is still alive! Thanks to her mom's gut instinct, they tested her sugars and figured it out before it was too late. Please get him to the doc asap and have him checked.
Or go to Walmart (yeah, I know, but) and get their very cheap glucose monitor and a pack of strips and test his blood sugar yourself.
I'd do that *and* get an appointment asap with the pediatrician.
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.... but let me just say that I love this country. And I pledge allegiance to our flag every day because I am thankful for the freedoms that we have (to homeschool, for one), and for all the sacrifices that have been made over the years by our men (and women) in uniform. Do I agree with every war we've ever fought? No. Decisions are made by human beings, and human beings are fallible. But I stand by the country I call my home. If I can't pledge allegiance to my flag, perhaps it's time for me to find a new place to call "home".
I love my country, too. I figure I waved the flag every time I washed dh's BDU's or waited for a call from Bosnia or was left to raise his kids by myself. I've never had a permanent place to call home in my entire adult life. I went where my country sent us/him.
I'm very thankful for him and his band of brothers and sisters who lay their lives on the line for their country every single day and night.
But I have to say, my loyalty isn't to a flag. My allegiance is to my country and my family. Wearing a flag or waving one or saluting one doesn't make me more or less patriotic. The pledge is very important to some patriotic Americans, but it's not so much to this patriotic American.
And if one person on this thread is saying to you that you cannot pledge allegiance to your flag or your country or your God or your family, I'd love to see that. I'm not sure you're going to find that in this thread. We're just answering what the choices are for *our* families, not making a value judgment on what the choices are for other families.
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Now, Canada would give up her seat to pretty much any country, but the US does have a pretty big butt, so she just figures that since the US is doing a mighty fine job of keeping that seat warm, then she'll just smile and be happy for them.
Bwahahahaha! Ha! :lol:
Perfect.
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Well, I've waited until the last possible minute to finish my son's costume for the play he's in and now I have a question... What is interfacing? I need to put it in the middle of the two pieces of fabric for the neck so I'm thinking it's some kind of stiff material so the neck stands up? If so, can I use a stiff piece of fabric instead? This is a costume, after all, and will only be worn a handful of times, so if I can avoid a visit to Joanns at this time of night, I would appreciate it.
Thanks for any help you can give me!!
Signed...
Procrastinating Sewer,
PAM
Sure, you can use any thin, stiff fabric. It's just to reinforce.
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More specfically this site: http://www.learner.org/resources/series105.html
Tell me about your experience, likes, dislikes?
Oh yes. We used them for whole units of science ed in middle school. Love 'em. Emails still pop up in my box from them from time to time.
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Let's say that someone's dh sat in tar - sticky, farm tar over the weekend.
And the someone promised her dear, sweet dh she'd take care of it for him.
And let's say that someone's son put the tar-stained shorts through the washer & dryer before it was noticed.
What says the hive - any hope for the clothing?
*ahem*
Not that it happened to me. I'm just sayin.
Hypothetically, I'd say there are some new farm rags in that person's future.
Seriously though, how would you have handled it before they were run through the wash/dry? How do you get tar out of cloth? I've never been successful.
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Any other just land lines for this area?
I called Embarq - $45 unlimited long distance land line. But I'd be interested in knowing if there are other local phone companies.
Verizon is impossible to get a hold of.
They list a number for new customers that gets one automated message after another.
Nope, not unless your county is different.
And you just go to the Verizon store and get immediate service. There's one on every corner. As you may have noticed. LOL
The thing we like about Verizon is the ability to share minutes on another phone for $10 more a month.
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Is there a cell phone, land line, computer bundle cheap?
What about just a cheap cell phone?
Embarq is the only one with land line and internet bundle here. Not sure what they offer for cell service bundled in, if anything.
Verizon has given us great service for cell phone.
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Pam, that was a wonderful and thoughtful post. Thank you. I can identify with much of what you said, and yet....
I think that the term feminist has such a history of destruction, that it often causes an emotional response in some. My mother was a product of the feminist-revolution in the 70s. It cost our family my mother, our home, and yes, our security as children. I still shudder, remembering the deep pain my father went through as my mother set off to .. find herself..
Yes, much of feminism was a reaction to deep injustices. But the ANGER. It was if so many women got caught up in a movement that perhaps had some elements of truth for them, but also maybe, gave them a heady feeling of power as they relished in their victimhood, and their shared sense of entitlement (to hell with the families and children that their newfound freedoms left behind).
Despite that, for most of my adult life I would consider myself a prolife feminist, relating to most of your post. But I just thought that I might bring attention to why some women and men react with SUCH distrust and frustration toward the movement as a whole. (Hopefully, not the individuals that use the term feminist!)
Kim
Kim, I'm very sorry for your hurt.
And even though this will be somewhat personal-sounding, perhaps, I think sometimes people use creeds and movements -- anything that inspires passion and zeal -- as an excuse of sorts to do all sorts of things. In this case, feminism was the cause.
Some in the 70's used the revolution to make their lives better, not worse. Some used it to empower their daughters to strive for more education or to escape a cycle of abuse. Some used it to excuse to hurt their families and indulge themselves. And again I'm sorry that end of it hurt you and your family so much.
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It's not a vomiting flu.
In some people, diarrhea and vomiting are showing up as symptoms.
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Pam - we can just dig a fresh new hole.
True.
When you coming to work with me?
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You're a much bigger feminist than I am. I would never snake a toilet.:tongue_smilie:
LOL! I would shovel out an outhouse if I had to. :D
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He's not babysitting, he's PARENTING.
Oh, you're singin' my song.
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I am thankful for suffragettes. I am thankful to women that have stood up for what is right and good and moral. I am thankful that I have the right to vote and think and work and stay home with my children.
I can not stand feminists. I can not stand women who put men down. I can not stand women who put on manly traits and compete with men. I can not stand women who are cold, bitter and selfish. To me, that is what the feminist movement has become.
I think there is a distinct difference between a "feminist" and a woman who thinks for herself and has the ability to make intelligent choices.
But, again, just thoughts from my piddley little head. Take it as you may.
We've often stood on opposite sides of issues, but I really do respect you. And I'm very sorry that you can't stand feminists. Because in saying this, truly you are saying that you can't stand me.
And that might be true, and that's ok. I don't need for everyone to "stand" me.
But golly. I might not like the extremes that a particular branch of, say, vegetarians have taken in defending animal rights. But I would not say I can't stand vegetarians. Or I might not like the shrill attitudes of my political party, but I would not go so far as to say I can't stand [insert people who affiliate with my political party here]. (Ok, that last was rather silly, as I'm officially an Independent and vote the person not the party, but still. The point is the thing.)
Do you really just so dislike the feminists you know? Do *they* know you can't stand them? Or is more a "hate the sin, love the sinner" thing?
You might like my girls -- my girly one and my not-much-makeup-but-modest-with-long-hair-who-wears-dresses-at-least-half-the-time-one. You might approve of how I've reared/am rearing them -- to be respectful of all people, to be modest in dress and speech, to be kindhearted, to have a gentle spirit, to be emotionally tough, to be wise and harmless, to listen to each side, to stand up for themselves and the weaker "brother," not to play games with men. I hope with all my heart that they will self-identify as feminist. Not in a confrontational sense, certainly, unless that is called for to preserve civil liberty, but in a sense of assurance that they will not be victimized or exploited or discriminated against.
I'm sorry that you and perhaps others can't stand me and them just because of how we choose to view ourselves and name ourselves in the wide world. If you got to know us, you might like us and even grow to appreciate what we believe, even if you don't believe it yourself.
When I left (long story) Christianity, I was wary of being like people I knew who left religion and then just grew bitter and hateful about it. They would turn on Christians and religious folks as deluded and stupid and preyed upon. But people are people. And we all walk in the light we're given, and we all have struggles and we all love our kids the best we know how and we all take our trash out to the curb on Tuesday like regular folks.
I'm sorry. I'm rambling now, but this makes me sad. If there's anything more I can do or say to make you change your mind about people like me, I'd love to try. We're not evil, mostly. I'm just a simple wife trying daily to mutually submit to my husband because I feel it's the wise course of action in life and relationships, and to do my best at my job and in the rearing of my kids. And I'm a feminist, and I'm not a bit ashamed of that.
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My dd (1 going on 2) has long, baby hair that knots easily. Is there a detangler out there that fits my criteria?
- works well (duh! :))
- smells pleasant
- is safe (no parabens, natural ingredients)
- not outrageously priced
- not tested on animals
Is there anything that comes close to my list? I could compromise on the no parabens thing and maybe the animals (I try hard, and I rarely miss). By outrageously priced I mean like $20 for a 3-oz product. No way will I pay that, as much as I love my dd.
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I like to just use a little California Baby conditioner on my hands, put a little water in one palm, rub my hands together, then rub the now-sorta-watery conditioner throughout dd's wet hair.
I think often of just putting it in a spray bottle with water. That's all detangler is, really -- leave-in conditioner and water.
It's pricey, I guess, but I can a) find it at Target and b) it'll last a long time the way I use it.
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Thank you so much! Your locating the FAQs for me helped tremendously. I've placed my order and am looking forward to getting them in the mail.
Blessings,
Angela
I loved this program! Like I thought when I got the Singapore math books, though, I thought, "Oh, brother. I could have gotten this from Walmart for $2!"
But the foundational, slow, easy, steady introduction to both concepts and higher order thinking is absolutely wonderful. The transition from 6 to 7 (Interactive Science, I believe?) was quite steep, just like the math program jumps. But it's deceptively meaty.
For this mom who loves science but for some reason had a hard time being consistent with teaching the foundational concepts (vs. the fun, interesting, whiz-bang or the developmental/technical), this was PERFECT.
And for parents who like to supplement a LOT (um, that would be me), this program is great for that. You get to do the one without leaving the foundational stuff undone. I *love* that.
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It's totally a feminist thing I think. I don't know. I just don't get into it at all. I also find it very hard to "respect" another woman who does it too. It's like, what do you have to prove? Just move on, live life lady and be happy.:auto:
I think you might have a different definition of feminist than I do. :confused:
I'm very much a feminist, but I think bashing men because they are *men* and demeaning and belittling them is akin to wickedness. It's disrespectful and hateful.
Of course, bashing feminists because it's a convenient way to pigeonhole people doesn't please me very much, either. But I know that in some circles (and in the circles where I ran for 35 years and that most of my friends still move in) this is acceptable. Comparing us to Nazis is also acceptable, but that's a different radio show, I guess, and not saying you or others who don't like feminists do that.
(BTW, I'm not a feminist because I work for pay outside my home. I work for pay outside my home because it's a "season of life" thing and something I agreed to a long time ago, mutually, *with* my husband.)
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My 12yo had no formal grammar before using Winston Grammar. He certainly has less attention span than others, and not only did he learn from it but liked it, too.
Yes! Have him do Winston Grammar for 1/2 year or even over the summer, then begin with R&S Book 6. (Which, I have to tell you, was about 9th or 10th grade level grammar when I went to school.) Finish the R&S Grammar series through Book 8 throughout high school, and that's all the grammar most people will need and then some. He will be well-prepared to study a foreign language after Book 7.
Winston Grammar will give him confidence and he will cement what he needs to know rather quickly, parts of speech-wise. Very visual, very hands-on program. You really can't make a mistake with it. I remember doing the first lessons WITH ds and dd, because I wanted them to get in the habit of asking the questions about every single word. We got in a rhythm, then I let them fly.
R&S will take that WG foundation and build skills slowly and carefully. At our house, we did class practice together on a sheet of paper (others do white boards) after I taught the lesson out loud, and with very few exceptions, dd did every single example every single day. Every review question, as well. (Except for some very Mennonite-specific usage errors that made no sense to us. (Confusing let and leave, for example))
And yep, it was tedious, and yep, there was a tiny bit of moaning during the first few weeks. But after while, it was sorta like brushing your teeth or washing the dishes -- you just do it because it's good for you.
And now? Dd is 16 and working at a solid level at a rigorous school and *still* occasionally thanks me -- THANKS me! -- for those three years of Mennonite grammar she had to endure, preceded by Winston and Grammar Rock videos. Latin is simply not the chore for her that it is for some of her schoolmates, because she "gets" the grammar already and doesn't have to double up her learning.
I am reminded all the time from her experience that it is very true: No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful; later on, however, it produces a heart of... peace for those who have been trained by it. In dd's case, a more peaceful school experience is what she is reaping from her days of disciplined home school.
:chillpill: Ah well, off my grammar soapbox now! LOL :chillpill:
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First, I want to say, it must be really hard to be in a business where every. word. you. write. is PORED over by poor, desperate wannabe writers. But isn't that why you either a) never respond or b) write form letters?
This is what I got tonight:
Thank you for querying me. Unfortunately I am going to have to pass at this time. Please don't take this rejection as a comment on your writing ability, because it isn't intended to be one. I'm sure another agent will feel differently.
Best of luck to you with the submission process.
It was so kind of this lady to take the time to write a personal response, but I guess it strikes me as strange to go out of your way to say that you didn't not like something. Does that make sense? I guess it seems like it would have been easier to go w/ the form letter. (I'm glad she didn't.) Or if her point was to be encouraging...say something positive, instead of a double negative. I guess...it kind-of makes me laugh, because...it's all such a mystery, kwim? In the end, I have no idea what she meant. Other than no.
I keep getting these personal notes w/ variations on "*I* can't use this piece, but someone can."
I'm not complaining. Just musing, I guess. This isn't what I'd read that the process of submitting stuff would be like. I like to understand processes, & I don't understand this one, kwim?
Aubrey, I don't know, but I'm not absolutely certain that other people will not know, too.
:D
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I wouldn't order from an Ikea either. They just aren't equipped to deal with orders -- the catalog is really meant as more of a sampler to get you into a store.
I've resigned myself to the fact that if IKEA isn't within driving distance, I can't shop at IKEA. Period.
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Dh is currently at Eielson AFB, and the kids and I will be traveling up to Alaska in July. Would love to learn about the area through someone that lives there. We are really interested in opportunities for the teens. Also looking for an active church with a teen ministry.
Thanks!
Oh, I'm no help, but I couldn't resist:
April in Fairbanks
music and lyrics Murray Grand
from New Faces of 1956
Autumn in New York
And April in Paris
Are no longer chic.
Winters in Mallorca
And summers in Capri
Are gone, so to speak.
The people who have the wherewithal
Have found a new place to have a ball.
They've deserted the Champs-Elysees,
The Piazza d'SpagnaIs no longer gay.
They say their thanks for Fairbanks,Alaska.
April in Fairbanks,
There's nothing more appealing.
You 'll find your blood congealing
In April in Fairbanks.
Bright Arctic moonlight illuminates the ice-floes
When ev'rybody's breath shows
In April.
You've never known the charm of Spring
Until you hear a walrus sighing.
The air is perfumed with the smell of blubber frying.
April in Fairbanks;
You'll suddenly discover
A Polar Bear's your lover
In Fairbanks.
Subzero weather
Will turn your skin to leather
Your jaws will lock together
In April in Fairbanks.
North Polar breezes will sing you a cadenza
And bring you influenza
In April
I'll leave the Rivera to the fools who want a fancy palace.
Give me an igloo , the Aurora Borealis.
April in Fairbanks;
I really can't believe it.
I know I'll never leave it alive this April.
Sorry.
:D
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Please know that many women who have heart attacks don't have the same symptoms as men: the crushing chest pn that radiates to the left arm, profuse sweating, all the other signs/symptoms of a "typical" cardiac event. Many women have some nausea, extreme fatigue, some pain or pressure in their abdomen (technically epigastric pn/pressure), even pn/tingling/numbness in the right arm, and other "atypical" symptoms. If you experience any of these symptoms, please do seek immediate medical attention -- as cardiologists say "Time is muscle."
I've read in a couple of places that the first "typical" symptom of heart attack in women is often death.
=O
Which is why you don't, as Brehon says, ignore the atypical symptoms.
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All of my paternal relatives have had high blood pressure -- and most have had heart attacks in their 50s or 60s. Some fatal. The last aunt who had a heart attack didn't even have high cholesterol or high blood pressure.
Knowing this . . . what can I do to help prevent this for myself?
I'm losing weight (I'm about 1/2 way to my goal) and exercising regularly. Hopefully I have 10 years or so before any symptoms would be apparent. Right *now* I'm in fairly good health, even though I want to continue improving my strength and endurance. I don't make the best diet choices, but I'm getting better at increasing fruits and vegetables. :)
tia
Check out info on hereditary hemochromatosis.
Is there any hope she'll enjoy school?
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There's the key right there, I think.
For us, it worked that there were no electronics on school days. Not saying that's the best way for every family, but it worked for us.
And not saying electronics are bad. I certainly don't believe that. But kids and adults can become addicted and neglect what is best in order to self-indulge in what is merely good.