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  1. A friend on another board turned me on to the Scrivener program. The trial download will work until December 7th for NaNo-ers, so we have plenty of time to compile and export our novels even if we don't buy it...and if we are NaNo winners, we get 50% off the purchase price!

     

    I ran through the tutorial this week and really like it. So, I'm using it. Anyone else?

  2. I actually have kind of an action-packed plot this year. Was not expecting that. My novel from last year is much sleepier and slower paced...the kind of novel I don't usually voluntarily read; what is that all about? Anyway, this year I have all kinds of ideas, but now I have some books on hold at the library to flesh out my understanding of certain things, and NaNo starts tomorrow! So, I'm sort of winging it, but I'm still really excited.

  3. Are suicides from bullying new? Why are gay suicides more tragic than nerd suicides or sexual harassment suicides? They are making the news, but I really don't think they are much more prevalent than any other bullying tragedies. I had classmates who killed themselves over bullying. I had classmates who self-medicated into oblivion over the torment. They weren't gay. They were tormented for being nice kids who got on the wrong side of a powerfully bullying posse.

     

    Did you see my post above yours? I tried to address my thoughts on this there.

     

    I don't see anyone saying that gay suicides are "more" tragic. I see people complaining that gay suicides are being singled out as one disturbing trend in bullying that is only now being discussed candidly in the national news. That says a lot more to me about the complainers than it does about the coverage.

     

    The purpose of this thread was to discuss what I believe to be an extremely facetious excuse some teachers levy for behaving as bystanders rather than authority figures when they witness anti-gay bullying specifically. They are not bringing up neutrality policies WRT any other sort of bullying.

  4. Mine are in this year. My 4th grader set a word goal of 800, my 2nd grader 600. She's far less of a reluctant writer than her brother, so I think she'll make it. They have been working on the workbooks for over two hours today, with no real signs of stopping. They seem to be having a blast!

  5. My kids committed to do it! I'm amped. They've set word limits, and they've spent the entire morning working on the workbooks.

     

    I need to finish my own simple planning. Did I mention that I'm on the road Nov. 1-3? What was I thinking?

     

    Oh, and ThatCyndiGirl? I keep meaning to come back and shake my fist at you for making me snort coffee up my nose. Best helpful tip post *ever*.

  6. Okay, I admit that I did engage in a little hyperbole here, so sue me. Perhaps I shouldn't post when in the throws of PMS, but this topic is a hot button. I am annoyed that media is only focusing on anti-gay bullying when all bullying is just as damaging.

     

    Of course all bullying is damaging. I don't see anyone arguing that it isn't. But there's really no getting around the fact that a number of gay kids have killed themselves this fall, and we're not even two months into most school calendars. I don't really believe that's new either...but I believe that being honest about it is. This particular issue seems to just now be hitting the national radar in a meaningful way, so the fact that people are already complaining about it? That gets *my* panties in a twist.

  7. Somebody confused obtuse with oblique, is that what happened? Ouch. How...obtuse. I agree, I'd post it to the yahoo group and fix it in your own book.

     

    It's a good lesson that texts aren't infallible, though I know that it's egregious when it's actual incorrect information rather than bias.

  8. I quoted you directly, then paraphrased your argument in order to highlight what I wanted you to explain.

     

    I don't see how "hi-jack" is better, actually. It implies robbing, stealing and swindling.

     

    As someone who has taught in public schools fairly recently, I can tell you that the top three insults being slung by any kid slinging them are gay, fag, and queer. Way before kids can even be reasonably expected to know their sexual orientation. Kids are still picked on for being too smart, not having the right clothes, being overweight, and many other things. But anti-gay comments are extremely prevalent and commonplace.

     

    That said, anti-gay bullying is in the media, not because someone's really cranking up their PR machine and "making" news, but because gay children are killing themselves. At least five so far this fall. I think we can all be reasonably sure that those are not PR stunts, so at best, your posts have been poorly worded.

  9. And I'm also amazed to learn that the gay advocacy groups have basically hijacked the whole anti-bullying movement. Most of us got picked on because we did our homework and knew the answers to the teacher's questions...not for any perceived 'orientation.'

     

    Wait, what?

     

    Anti-gay bullying draws media attention after a string of suicides.

    Therefore, gay advocacy groups have hijacked the whole anti-bullying movement.

     

    Could you explain this more, please?

  10. FaithManor, I am amazed that the teacher's union isn't all over this, from the disciplinary action to the new policy. There's no way it's not illegal to order teachers to submit to physical violence at the hands of their students. AFA being forbidden to intervene, I'd be sitting down with my legislators to talk about a "duty to assist" law.

     

    One of our local political candidates is making bullying a major issue in all of his literature...basically smearing the other guy for not supporting an anti-bullying law.

     

    kalphs, thanks!

  11. I don't know what we'd do without techno music (including Lady GaGa). We don't pay attention to the lyrics but dancing like fools is our main source of exercise around here.

     

    I have a few songs on my iPod (mostly this is Glee's fault). I think there's a difference between making informed choices and just opening up the castle gates so the marketing types can "have at" your kids.

     

    LibraryLover, this is not the first time I've noticed we're on similar pages with this stuff. Mythbusters and Dirty Jobs are both big here. We love Pixar, but avoid most of the Disney Princess type movies.

  12. I agree 100%. However - I don't think it's realistic. Think back - shoot, Little House on the Prairie, there was a bully. I can't think of other examples off the top of my head, but bullies have been around forever, and depending on their social postition, will be successful because of who their parents are, if for no other reason.

     

    I think there are more outlets for bullying now (think FB, blogs, etc.), but none of this is new and none of the teachers responses are new. The teachers who stand up and call a bully on his/her behavior are few and far between and always have been.

     

    Nellie. The kids dealt with her, but I think the teacher would have if they hadn't. Now later, when Eliza Wilder was their teacher, she totally fed into it. Remember that? I don't think she was renewed.

     

    Oh, and how about the Hardscrabble boys and Almanzo's father's whip?

  13. The new policy is that no teacher, under any circumstances, may touch a student for any reason period. Do not offer your hand to the kindergartener that just fell, do not administer a band aid, do not restrain a bully, do not pick up an injured child and run for the door when the building is on fire, and as for fights - just let the bully continue beating the other student until the police arrive, etc. The only staff in the entire district that will be allowed to touch a student will be the school nurses. The teachers were told they cannot even physically defend themselves from an attack from a student or students. Just take the beating until the cops arrive! That's the policy.

     

    I would love to see a link. That needs to make the national news. The counter-argument (I will sue your @ss if my kid is in any way harmed due to your inaction) seems far too obvious to ignore.

     

    Also, what about school shootings? I know I'm not the only teacher who has thought that s/he might be left no option but to defend students with violence. The teachers who hide behind "neutrality" policies are abdicating their basic responsibilities as adult authority figures and stewards. We talk about trends of disrespect among students, but why should they respect an adult who isn't willing to accept responsibility in this fundamental way?

  14. But this is exactly like what's being discussed on the media thread this morning. If adults *as a group* do not endorse and inculcate an anti-bullying culture, teachers who call out bullying are just one voice in a storm. And I'm tired of it. I'm tired of Queen Bees' parents equating bullying with leadership skills. I'm tired of the bullying starting up again the second you're not looking. The bottom line is, if every teacher and every student was consistently expected to call it out when they saw it...if we held the staff and student body as a whole responsible for doing nothing, then we'd have all the eyes we needed. I'm tired of bystander syndrome, and we can't expect the kids to stand up when we don't model or support that behavior.

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