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  1. I honestly don't think that HAS to be that difficult though! It simply requires forethought. Any teacher knows before they even choose that career that there will be bullying. They can guess the top reasons. They *should* figure how they are going to state themselves and how they will lead a discussion as necessary well before they step into a classroom. I most certainly have.

     

    :iagree:

  2. I've absolutely curtailed exposure to...I guess I'd say commercial culture. I see the whole point of things like Clear Channel radio stations as being to control what we listen to. I get stressed out listening to ABC cross-promote Disney and all its other labels. Here's a really interesting chart showing who owns what. There are an infinite number of conflicts of interest out there.

     

    At our house, we eschew most media directed at kids, and we don't have a lot of screen time. We started out doing this because of commercialism and concerns about the timing of kids' TV shows, and it became a habit. No cross-marketed characters and no kids' commercials equals a lot less brainwashing. We listen to public radio and indie music, world music, motown, jazz, classical, folk, etc.. Pandora makes that pretty easy, and you can stream radio stations via the internet or using a roku box. We like KEXP in Seattle, and WRSI (The River), in Amherst, which has an awesome kids' music show called Spare the Rock.

     

    With an older kid, I'd probably start any pullback by doing some media literacy instruction. The link upthread allows you to watch a frontline documentary called The Merchants of Cool online. It's excellent. You should watch it yourself first, b/c the segment on Insane Clown Posse has a lot of language and you'll probably want to skip it given your dd's age.

     

    Also, there's a book on Amazon called Made You Look that would make good reading for your dd. Hey Kidz, Buy This Book is more activistic in tone, but I'm fond of it. Media manipulation of our kids is a peeve of mine, and some online acquaintances I've "known" way longer than you mamas were involved in this book's publication. It's on my son's reading list for this year.

     

    I know that a lot of religous homeschoolers are objecting primarily to what they perceive to be immoral content when they restrict media, but I do not think it can be said enough that, regardless of your political or religious beliefs, most media addressed to children is designed to fundamentally manipulate their likes, interests, culture, etc., with a deliberate focus on subverting the influence of the parent. There are an enormous number of books on this topic for adults.

  3. To be fair, some people who are averting their eyes are probably areligious bigots, or conflict averse. There were certainly religious people taking stands against this sort of behavior in the story. And I attended a synagogue last weekend and listened to a rabbi speak with passion on this very issue, and the responsibility of every person to speak directly to the bully about the behavior.

  4. I think that this is too often the case. Even once, it would be too often, but I can look back at the people I knew in school. Many of the ones I would consider bullies? Are now teachers.

     

    I would describe that as "big fish in a little pond" addiction. It's so weird, b/c I've known plenty of bullied or "uncool" kids who became teachers as a public service to future geeks. I wonder how many people teach cheek-by-jowl with their former bullies.

  5. And that rationalization from the Family Research Council is disgusting. Being bullied, rejected, and despised doesn't make kids depressed - they're depressed because even they know how horrible they are? Feh. There's no language strong enough.

     

    Then they contrast it with this:

     

    But Warren Throckmorton, an evangelical who teaches psychology at Grove City College in Pennsylvania, says there is a problem with this argument: Many of the kids who commit suicide aren't gay.

     

    "The common element is not gay identification," he says. "The common element is anti-gay harassment. And so it isn't a matter of them being gay and unhappy. It's a matter of others tormenting them with gay slurs."

     

    Throckmorton says a growing number of Christian conservatives are questioning the hard-line theological approach. He has created a curriculum called "Golden Rule Pledge," which can be used by churches to prevent bullying.

     

    Albert Mohler at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., criticized Christian conservatives for "homophobia" and their "glib assurances that gay persons simply choose to be gay." And earlier this month, Exodus International — a group that believes people can be freed from homosexuality through Jesus Christ — pulled its support for the Day of Truth. In an e-mail, Exodus President Alan Chambers says he now believes it is better for Christians' kids to show "biblical tolerance and grace" than to condemn.

     

    Which makes me even angrier that teachers would hide behind the neutrality argument. I don't think the "they don't see it argument" will do, either. I know kids can be sneaky. But that story illustrated that there are schools that have failed to establish a solid anti-bullying culture. And a particularly horrible example I witnessed in high school was happening right in front of the teaching staff. I don't think that was exceptional.
  6. They're all different. My favorites (right now) are Moosewood's New Classics and Moosewood's Simple Suppers (which I keep compulsively checking out of the library, b/c it's still in hc). But I own and like Mollie Katzen's The Moosewood Cookbook, Moosewood Restaurant Daily Special, and The Enchanted Broccoli Forest. A couple of theirs I've gotten rid of (the low-fat one, a sunday dinner one), but most I love.

  7. I heard this story on the news tonight.

     

    I blogged about it if you really want to read a rant, but in the interest of full disclosure, I use some strong language.

     

    The reason it's still worth posting on this board when I've already spoken my piece is because, while there may be vehement disagreements on this board, I can depend on some well-worded arguments. And I want to know if anyone thinks that teachers are seriously incapable of differentiating between enforcing an anti-bullying policy and endorsing homosexuality. When I heard the story, my initial reaction was, "Come on, seriously? That reasoning would not fly on the boards." But maybe I'm wrong. And even if I'm not, I find I want to read your words.

  8. :iagree: And then I would call the boy's mother, and let her know. I would also let them know, that if this boy ever laid a hand on my son again, I would be calling the police and pressing charges. Nothing was being done about the kid bullying my son (at scouts) until I made that comment. Haven't had a problem since.

     

    I think I would do this. I also think that I'd talk to my son first, but that I might speak to his guidance counselor or the Vice-Principal at the HS ahead of time and let them know that this boy seems to have a fixation with your son. That your son is pleased and excited to be at the high school, but that you do have specific concern's about the "pattern of fixation and violent behavior" that the other boy has displayed, and that you have already made it clear that any subsequent problems will result in charges being pressed. If your son does very well with his scout master, perhaps offer his number as a reference, of sorts. Make it very clear that your son would not interact with this boy of his own volition, and that the boy has a pattern, for no reason you can see, of seeking out your son and targeting him for violent treatment and verbal abuse.

     

    When I brought it up to my son, I'd try to be pretty dispassionate and factual about it, and simply say, "Look, this young man clearly has some issues. They're not your issues. He has fixated on you for no good reason, and this pattern of behavior is something we need to make specific people aware of, because it's a big red flag. He needs an eye kept on him, because if he's doing this to you, he can and will do it to someone else, and that person may not be able to stand up to him like you have done. I know it has been stressful, but we're terribly proud of you for handling the situation with such maturity. Keep us informed, and as a family we will keep the authorities informed."

  9. Do we need a separate thread for the stuff people wear written on their bums?

     

     

    Oh, now that drives me seriously nuts. I have this compulsion to read any print I see, and the "billbutts" are always on teenaged girls. I feel like a skeeve.

     

    Probably my only controversial tees say:

     

    "Muggles for Harry Potter"

    "Breeder"

    and

    "Got Milk?" (a breastfeeding tee)

     

    But I agree that my dh is a mf'er. There's really no getting away from it. And I find that very funny, in a completely juvenile way. Neener neener.

     

    I would not be thrilled to see these shirts in public. But then, I passionately hate the "princess" ones, too. I keep thinking, "Great, raise your kid to take pride in her spirit of entitlement and leave her for my kids to deal with." Aargh. I don't think the "I'm a b****" ones are really terribly far away in spirit. My son was pretty scornful about society's expectations of genteel Victorian women, but this sort of crass false empowerment is way worse.

  10. Aargh!

     

    Lunch: Boca burgers and Alexia waffle fries

     

    Homeschooling: Totally derailed by a missing bank card, which I am 100% positive is at Burger King, except that either an employee took it or they're too incompetent to find it. Have ripped everything apart looking in very unlikely places even though I am fully aware of and have retraced my steps many times. Dh out of town, had to cancel his, too. We picked up a bunch of Civil War books from the library and are about to start watching a documentary.

     

    Funnest Weekend Thing: Toss-up between the synagogue visit with my RE class and subsequent discussion, and the unexpected invitation from a friend we haven't "played with" in quite some time, though we see each other weekly.

  11. Actually I'm out. My entire stash, everything - JBs, chocolate, and black Twizzlers - was devoured last night while I was working through my mad.

    I have to go back to the candy store tomorrow. I figure since I'm out I could mail some to you. PM me if you do. And you know you do. I can hear you salivating every time I type Chili Mango Jelly Bellies.

     

    My mouth is zipped shut.

     

    You are a sweetheart to offer, but you've got a whole stash to replace! I will buy my own. :lol:

  12. OP: sorry you got hurt yesterday. I can't imagine you posting anything that would inspire someone to be unpleasant.

     

    It was me. I had a strong reaction to Parrothead's posts, and managed to say something that sounded like a referendum on Ph's right to comment when what I meant was, "Look at it like this..." We both managed to kick each other pretty good without ever intending to at all.

     

    Parrothead's willingness to talk with me about it is enormously helpful. Hurrah for conflict resolution and mango chili Jelly Bellies!

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