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  1. So does the different way that Americans say z make them break up the words into syllables different? because it is in more than zebra where the difference in saying z appears to make the word be pronounced differently. though of course I cannot think of a single example....

    Wasn't the pronunciation of Xavier the issue that sparked this discussion? Is it pronounced with a short A sound in Australia?

     

    ETA maybe the are more x word examples. How would you say xenophobia? What about Zero?

  2. LOL - they're already written how they're pronounced differently!

     

    Carry has a "short a" sound like mat - just like vowels are supposed to before a double consonant

    Fairy has a "long a" sound like mate - just like fair or fare (is this how you pronounce all 3? - or which vowel sound wins?)

    Ferry has a "short e" sound like met. - again, the "e" is short before the double consonant

     

    I know that according to the pronunciation map someone once linked, we here in our corner of the northeast are alone in the US in hearing these differences (usually Mary/merry/marry is used as the example - same - the vowels are like mate, met, mat). I think the Brits are with us in hearing the difference?

     

    But don't you all pronounce mat, mate and met differently??

    Mat, mate, and met are different, yes. Carry, fairy, and ferry all have the same sound as met. :)
  3. We talk quite often about things that we just don't know. We talk about how some of what science tells us and some of what our religious sources tell us don't always seem to agree with each other, but we don't have to understand all the answers right now. We can learn what we need to learn about religion from religious sources, and what we need to learn about science from scientific sources, and someday all the details will fall into place but that may not happen in this life.

  4. Beast is not spiral. It is also not at all like Life of Fred. If your son likes Saxon but is not excited about MM I would drop the MM and do Beast instead, and keep the Saxon for the spiral. Beast will give you a strong conceptual foundation and plenty of practice with solving challenging problems, it is both rigorous and fun. It might not be a good fit however if your child would be frustrated by problems that cannot be solved on the first try. If you do Beast you need both the guides and the workbooks.

  5. Wait a minute, am I really the only one on this forum who truly believes the world is flat?!? And here I thought this was a divers group.

    Now y'all are going to tell me that no-one else believes that aliens are controlling the UN either.

    (And yes, of course the aliens are from another flat world. Not all of us flat-worlders disbelieve in space travel, ya know...)

     

    I may just have to find a different place to hang out.

  6. One of my children seems to fit an ADHD profile. I tend to just roll with it because I was that way myself as a child, but my husband thinks he should be able to just decide to sit still and do it. I think a book that explains why these kids act the way they do and gives concrete examples of how to help them function appropriately in different settings would be helpful. Suggestions?

  7. I don't think you necessarily need to plan to slow down, just plan to take whatever time he needs. That said, my personal recommendation for third would be to drop one of the programs you have been using and do Beast Academy instead. If you have a mathy kid, that one is not to be missed. You won't get most of the benefit of the program if you just read through it.

  8. I find that having a regularly scheduled activity together is best for building friendships. It can be getting together for coffee every Friday, meeting at the park on Wednesday afternoons with the kids, meeting early in the morning to walk, having a Sunday afternoon scrapbook party...the activity itself doesn't matter other than that there needs to be time to interact and it should be something you both enjoy.

  9. Have you ever considered that the gh in light, night, etc. is there because it used to be pronounced? If that sound can disappear from the spoken form of the word, while continuing to persist in the written form, why could the "t" sound not disappear just as legitimately from the spoke form of "twenty"? Or will you claim that my pronunciation of "light" is incorrect unless I pronounce it like the German "Licht"?

  10. See, the idea that there is one true and correct pronunciation for each word, and that the correct pronunciation is indicated by the traditional spelling of the word, ignores the natural tendency of languages to evolve and change. Spoken English in Arkansas is different from English in California, is different from English in Ireland, is different from English in Australia...and all of those differ from the language spoken in 16th century London not to mention the stuff Chaucer wrote and we won't even consider Beowulf. Language is not a monolithic, static structure. If I say "I'm gonna mee' my friend at the liberry on twenny-first stree' an then we're goin ou' fer icecream" I am not mispronouncing anything--I am merely speaking colloquially in the local dialect, the real living language of the area where I live. The same is true of local variations in grammatical structure.

  11. In teaching phonics to my children I often wonder how many words are just mispronounced. 

    I am working harder on being more conscious of how I talk.

      

    Oh, yeah. Teaching Spalding made me *totally* conscious of how I pronounce words, especially when I taught in my little one-room school. One of my students, a 13yo girl, came to me without much warning; while I waited for her instructional materials to arrive, I gave her some busy work: writing out numbers (which you wouldn't think a 13yo girl would need to do, but, well, it's a long story, lol). She wasn't doing too badly until she got to the 20s, and she wrote, "twenny," "twenny-one," "twenny-two"... :blink: I realized that people (possibly even me!) often say "twenny" instead of "twenty."

     

    So, yes, I am way more conscious now of pronunciations. :-)

    But this is assuming that a pronunciation that differs from the written form of a word, or from the way the word is or was pronounced in a different region or time, is necessarily incorrect; it is assuming that spoken language is or should be something static and rigid, and that change and variation indicate error or corruption. That isn't how language works.

     

    I see nothing wrong with saying "twenny-one".

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