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It still should be the decision of the parent, regardless of how close they are. I would be so incredibly pissed if someone did not feed my child all day (because they didn't want a sloppy joe???:confused:). If it was my mom, my sister, or my best friend - I don't care. I would be angry.
Susan
That's where the nature of the relationship comes in.
If my dc's refused to eat the lunch my mom, sister, or best friend offered I wouldn't even bat an eye if they didn't get anything until supper. Yes, they would have been hungry, but that probably means that they'll eat better during suppertime. (I love giving double servings of veggies! :tongue_smilie: ) The way I see it no child ever died from missing one meal.
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Okay, I just read what some are saying about feeding a child that isn't your own.
I think that depends on the nature of your relationship with the parents.
Is this a child you've kept for a long time and the expectation is they are treated as family, or is this a strictly business arrangement? That would definitely make a difference in how you handle it.
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I voted to offer the child a snack. However, it really depends on what you serve for snacks.
I have a sometimes eater, (one day he eats like a horse, the next like a bird), so I really try to make EVERY bite I offer as nutritionally beneficial as possible. Our afternoon snack is almost always fruit or veggies, so I would never feel bad about offering it to someone who refused lunch.
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Complete this sentence:
I experienced my greatest breakthrough homeschooling, after schooling or as a parent when I....
My answer: realized that it didn't matter what anyone else thought about the way we live/learn/parent. (including any self proclaimed experts or my own dear mother!)
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Wow, there are some great recommendations on this thread!
There is one book that has had a huge impact on me that I did not see listed anywhere, Corrie Ten Boom's The Hiding Place.
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Don't lick the walls. Especially in public.:glare:
Oh. My. Goodness! :lol:
That actually makes me feel better about having to REPEATEDLY ask DS#2 not to lick the following:
siblings
items belonging to siblings
shopping carts
windows
packages in stores
playground balls
books
and, occasionally, the dog :001_huh:
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Since DS#1 was born I've had many.
Today's:
"I don't care if it is an herbivore, quit threatening your sister with it!" :tongue_smilie:
Please tell me it isn't just at our house!
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I know my friend uses ham bones/liquid for soups and in bean dishes. I've seen it used in red beans and rice before as well as in white bean dishes.
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I use vitamin E cream. My grandmother has done this for years and, at 80 years of age, her skin is gorgeous!
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All I will say on this matter is... you become a LOT less phobic about things like pooping and peeing outside when you are locked out of your house, and really, really have to go.
My youngest son has absolutely no qualms about dropping trou anywhere in front of anyone if he has to pee. He's gotten better, though.
My oldest son is just now learning how to stand and pee... he makes the biggest mess of the toilet at 11! Sheesh.
Not to threadjack, but DS#1 improved his aim greatly after HE started cleaning the bathroom. :D
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I haven't read all the responses.....
We have had 3 outdoor peeing situations in the past month. All three involved DS4 and one involved DD5! :001_huh:
I just take deep breaths and remember that this too shall pass....(and be terrific blackmail material later! :tongue_smilie: )
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Right. On that we agree. My only quibble was that I wouldn't wait until late elementary to start worrying. For ME with my oldest, that was too late. We were starting to see domino effects that we are still coping with in 10th grade.
To me, I start to worry if they aren't where I feel they should be at age 8/9 or end of 3rd grade.
I'm not saying I am right or an authority.
I'm saying that is MY limit of comfort for my kids.:)
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I worked for several years prior to DS#1's birth with Sylvan, and oversaw the math programs for my center.
IMHO, there are a few critical windows within mathematics. If a student does not have mastery of basic facts and operations prior to 5th grade fractions, they will struggle to master fractions. If a student does not have mastery of fraction skills prior to beginning algebra skills they will struggle with most algebraic concepts.
That being said- children mature and develop at different rates. I would not be panicking about a 3rd grader still working on addition and subtraction tables/concepts as long as they were steadily progressing and mastering material. I would, however, be seriously concerned about a 5th grader in the same position with any of the basic fact tables. The trick is to get, and stay, ahead of the situation.
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Generally speaking, there is a tension between the patient having the final say in his/her care and the doctor/medical community running the show. When you look at cases with children the tension is really spectacular because now both parents and doctors are operating from the position that THEY are best suited to be that child's advocate. And when it comes to pregnancy.....that tension is off the charts and complicated by the fact that there are TWO patients to be considered at all times.
It simply isn't a black and white issue. Sometimes you get a patient/parent that is either unwilling or unable be the advocate for their own/their child's care, and in other cases you find the medical community too busy running their own agenda to admit what is in the best interest for this single patient may not be the medical norm for most patients.
(By the way this is why I think many people have a horrified reaction to the idea of the government *running* health care. Anytime you have a situation that is 100 shades of gray being dictated by guidelines that are primarily set up to deal with black and white you lose a lot of the *personal* in personal health care. It is also why most stories you hear about health insurance companies are negative.)
I have delivered three times with three different doctors at two different hospitals. I have never had an epidural or an episiotomy. I have, however, had two inductions; once because it was my first and I didn't know better and once because I begged the doc to induce me. The second induction was for my third child and I when I went to see the doc at 37 weeks 6 days I told him that this kid was ready and I was worried I was going to not make it to the hospital if we waited. (For me it was medically necessary to deliver at the hospital.) He tried to talk me into waiting until 39 weeks, but I stuck to my guns and went in for an induction at 38 weeks 3 days. (The earliest I could convince him to go.)
Before anyone becomes horrified, I was at three cm and having contractions at 6 min. intervals when I arrived for my induction. The pitocin never even made it from the IV bag into my arm. And, had the doctor's arrival been two contractions later the nurse would have been obliged to catch DS before he hit the floor. The doctor actually apologized to me for doubting my decision about induction. (My nurse told him you can't call it an induction if all you do is break the water and catch! :tongue_smilie:)
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from public schools by keeping my kids at home. I know passing the bean dip is in order - I'm not upset or feeling defensive, just wondering how to best represent the homeschool side of the debate.
My parents were just here for the weekend, and we had a lovely time. However, my dad just could not resist sharing how he really nettled another homeschooler by telling him that by keeping his 5 children at home, he's keeping their local public school from receiving about $13K which would allow them to hire 2 more teachers (which it would not but that is not the point). He lives in Michigan, which has a very strong teacher's union, and my parents always were and still are huge advocates of public school. He says that instead of homeschooling, parents should be working in the system to improve it.
I don't actually care if the schools get less money because I don't send my children, but that's probably not a helpful thing to say. I didn't argue with him on this (score one for me and my self-control :lol:) but I would love to be able to discuss this intelligently. You can point me towards books/articles if you want.
I think I would sweetly smile and very innocently say, "You mean the schools receive more in funding per child than the cost of that child's education? Wow, I wonder where all that extra goes?"
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We are required to do 180 days of instruction, but the our state does not require record keeping. Even so, I do keep records in case I ever need them.
In the past we have done between 40 and 46 weeks. Since we school 6 days a week we always have had plenty of days. (And no need to worry about sick days, mental health days, etc. :001_smile: ) However, the problem I've run into this year is planning; now that I have three students the time I used to allot for planning seems insufficient. (And I am finding myself a little frazzled. :svengo: )
For next year I am planning 36 weeks, (still 6 day weeks). We will do 6 weeks of school then take 2 weeks off for planning and household projects. We'll also take a few weeks for holidays and our annual trip to see the my husband's family. I will have to more careful about taking mental health days, but seeing as most of our mental health days are for MY mental health......... :blushing:
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I sent her to bed. She's more upset about missing our reading time than she is about going to bed. I guess there's the punishment... but I feel like I've punished myself also. :tongue_smilie:I love our reading time!!
Let me say that I think you handled it well. I just wanted to share the wisdom my mother gave me about parenting and punishment: "Most good punishments are as hard on you [parent] as they are on them [child]." :)
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I am really interested to hear how this turns out. I have told DH for years that when we replace the flooring in our kitchen/formal dining that I want brick. We have been guests in a few homes locally that have it throughout the lower floor common areas, and it is stunning. I have never had the nerve to ask the hostess about the care and cleaning though.:blushing:
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My opinion? How old the earth is is completely irrelevant to me.
I don't think people are decended from apes. Tho occasionally I do think there is a valid argument for donkey lineage in some people.:tongue_smilie:
:lol::lol: Oh. My. Stars. The kids just came in here to see what was so funny!
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I don't think for a MINUTE they can put SWB and PHP out of business!! Please! It only *sounds* like there are more of them. :lol: I think most of the people who keep PHP in business don't even know what is going on, they are busy about their business of *life*.
Just my opinion.
Don't let this plant seeds of fear. :grouphug:
I think you are right that most people do not know about what is going on. If, however, this small group of Ham's is determined to make a big fuss......
No matter the actual numbers, conservative christian homeschoolers have the vocal majority. I am not scared of this molehill, but am concerned it may develop into an actual mountain if pumped up with enough religiosity, hypocrisy, and outside attention. (i.e. Christianity Today)
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It is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Can't take your eyes away, can't stop it, and you know it can't end well. I don't even have a dog in this fight and it still makes me feel sick.
The problem is that all of us who homeschool DO have a dog in this fight.
First, if the outside world sees this ugliness as the face of homeschooling we all lose credibility, and, quite possibly, public support.
Also, if financial damage can be done to those publishers who do not carry water for the vocal majority it is possible that we may see a less diverse offering of materials in the future.
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You are fine, really. :grouphug: Deep breaths.
You said you are current on the 3 Rs. That is great! Did you know that many families choose not to formally cover science and history until their children are in late elementary? Some of us have even *gasp* postponed foreign language study until middle or high school. I'm not saying that you have to do that, just that people do and their children turn out just fine.
You might try easing into history and science by just incorporating them one day per week to begin with. If you would like suggestions as to spines for those subjects, just ask. I'm not sure if that is what you are looking for; I know some families like to keep it more informal by using library books instead. We do that, too, but I do find that I feel more organized when I have a spine through which we can progress steadily (not that the spine is necessary for anything other than my own sanity). :001_smile:
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Also, if adding these subjects is a source of stress for you, I would try to do more of a group thing with them. For us History, Science, and Art/Music are each 2x/week, and done as a group. (The thought of 3 kids in 3 different places in each of these subjects makes me feel like hyperventilating!) Of course there is only a 5 year age gap between my oldest and my youngest, so that does make it easier to use the group approach in these subjects.
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First, :grouphug:
Second, can you give the things you are concerned with more attention now? Have the factors that had your life off kilter changed/resolved?
If you can answer yes to the above, I would quit kicking yourself and get on with the business of incorporating these subjects consistently. If the core subjects are solid, adding the other subjects now should not cause a problem.
If the answer to the above is no, I would quit kicking yourself and get on with the business of finding a way to balance you life in such a way that you can give school all the energy you desire.
:grouphug: again. This is doable. You've identified the problems, and what you want to change. Now you just have to make the change happen.
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Seriously, can they?
I don't want to go into specifics-but I'm questioning whether homeschoolers can EVER manage to accept differing beliefs. Between my local secular, inclusive group and the stuff on the boards lately, I'm feeling like an "Army of 1"-and a not very successful one.
In a word, yes.
We have weekly park days with an inclusive group, and love it. This group has been meeting for five years and has over the years included families from Muslim, Atheist, Sikh, Catholic, Baptist, and Methodist backgrounds as well several families that have never revealed their family's religious background. Sometimes people discuss religious topics in smaller groups. (Not in a clique sort of way, though.) Quite honestly the discussions about vaccination were much more heated than any other topic I've heard discussed. Only once have I ever heard of someone in the group being upset over a comment of a religious nature.
It really just depends on the people in the group and their ability to share the sand box. :)
BTW- AFAIK only one family has ever left the group for a reason other than an out of state move or a major scheduling conflict.
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Now that I am over my dismay at the change in charts:
All chocolate, all the time, and the darker the better.
My faith is not based on the how of creation, only on the who.
I homeschool because it is what I believe is educationally, emotionally, and developmentally in the best interest of my children. Our faith is a part of who we are and all we do; it is naturally a part of their education, just as it would have been if they were enrolled in a regular classroom.
Love twisted peppermint and clean cotton. (I have to avoid most dyes in lotions and soaps because of some weird sensitivity. :glare: )
Most days I am happy to have a complete grown up thought that doesn't center on what I am serving for supper or the fastest route to the urgent care center. (I have a dare devil son.)
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ETA: I don't know my sign, then or now. Never seemed important.
consequences for cheating?
in General Education Discussion Board
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I think at this age, and as this is a repeat offense, I would assign some sort of report on the consequences of cheating in the real world. I would also re-assign the work that was not done properly plus an assignment of similar length and content to reinforce the material covered. And whatever the consequence for breaching parental trust is in your household, I'd add that to the list. :glare: I have zero tolerance for dishonesty.