Gretchen in NJ
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I am an extrovert who used to be an introvert as a child and am married to a man who is in the process of becoming an extrovert.
When we were first married I would just invite people over. I never thought to ask him.:001_huh: I looked as it was my job to help my dh be healthy and happy. I feel socializing is part of being happy and healthy.
Having children helped since we would have people over for their birthdays. I don't do "children's" birthday parties. I always planned "family" birthday parties where I would include the whole family. Thus, giving time to my dh to meet my friends' husbands.
My dh now looks forward to these get-togethers.
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Interesting on so many levels. It is nice to see the list of differences, but it would be nice to look toward what we have in common. Why would the RCC have to change? Couldn't the RCC and the EO meet somewhere in the middle?
My first question would be about the "Use of Unleavened Bread." Why doesn't the EO use unleavened? Wouldn't Jesus have used unleavened bread at the Last Supper after all it was during passover? Right?
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Good question. I am sorry to say that I don't have an answer.:blushing: It is actually being changed to, "And with your spirit." I do have someone I can ask.
I thought I had it right but not quite.:blushing: I found this on a USCCB page. I am looking at #7.
What do the people mean when they respond “and with your spirit�The expression et cum spiritu tuo is only addressed to an ordained minister. Some scholars have suggested that spiritu refers to the gift of the spirit he received at ordination. In their response, the people assure the priest of the same divine assistance of God’s spirit and, more specifically, help for the priest to use the charismatic gifts given to him in ordination and in so doing to fulfill his prophetic function in the Church.
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Oh, me too. I've got a couple books in my Amazon cart about how to live the faith all year.
I would really love to go to an EO church and experience it. I've never lived close enough to one during my adult life to go.
My newest parish (where I live now) was built in the 1960s so you can imagine how modern and plain it is.
I too prefer the old churches to the new. We go to one built in the 1950s, but they did their best to be as close to a traditional church as the could.
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My dd11 was born on Friday the 13th. Plus, it was the hundredth anniversary of Alfred Hitchcock's birthday.:svengo:
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Are you serious? People would asked to be induced and Docs would comply just so the birthdate has certain numbers???
Yes, they would. :glare::iagree: I think it is nuts too.:glare:
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I've been mulling on this topic whilst making dinner. On the surface it seems to make a certain amount of sense. But I just cannot think of anywhere in Scripture where Paul or anyone else requests prayer or suggest others request the prayers from those in heaven. Paul asks other believers to pray for him and he states he is praying for them. I'm pretty sure Paul doesn't ask John the Baptist or Elijah or Moses or Abraham to intercede for him or instruct Timothy or others to do so.
This question has kind of already been asked but is there any indication from Scripture that once in heaven believers will have the ability to hear prayers? I know Samuel heard the Witch of Endor (or not, that's debatable, I guess). But supposing he did is that evidence that he would be able to hear many, many requests possibly sent up simultaneously? God can do this but is there any evidence that saints in heaven can do this? I understand taking things on faith but for those who are sola scriptura where is the basis for believing these things to be true? Is this going to come back down to the sola scriptura thing or is there Scripture I'm not thinking of?
You are asking about scripture, but are forgetting about tradition.
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Until you posted this, I was under the same impression! This is done in a Lutheran church as well-I had no clue we were talking to the Holy Spirit:001_huh: I guess this confuses me a bit because why am I saying that to the HS when he is part of the Lord?
Good question. I am sorry to say that I don't have an answer.:blushing: It is actually being changed to, "And with your spirit." I do have someone I can ask.
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I always find something when I am looking for something else.:001_huh:
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No. I'm glad you are asking. I'm actually glad you are asking publicly.
Faith would be the answer to your question. Faith that she heard you, faith that your request is being see about and faith that God will listen to the woman whom he has such high regard.
St. Anthony of Padua is the patron saint of lost things. I know he heard me in my request for help in finding my engagement ring that was missing for over a year. We actually moved during that time. I came down the stairs one afternoon and just very quickly said, "St. Anthony, please ask that my ring be found." Later that evening my dd found my ring lying on my dresser. It has apparently fallen out of a basket.
This happened to me too. My ring had been missing for a long long time: a year or more. This was before I returned to my Catholic faith. A Lutheran friend of mine told me to pray to God to help me find my ring. I felt a little silly, but I did it anyway. I immediately retracked it since I felt awful praying about a ring when there was so much more important work for God to do. I found my ring the next day. :D
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I think were a lot of the misconception of how Catholics esteem the Blessed Virgin Mary and the communion of Saints comes from the Catholic lexicon. We do say that we are going to pray to the BVM for intercession. We also simply say we are going to pray to Mary. Even Catholics that are not properly catechized would think what they are doing is actually praying as in worship, which is reserved for God.
Here on the boards it comes up periodically. I'll think we have all the Protestant newbies up to speed, and well... here comes another one asking the same question or making the same mistake. It can get exasperating to some of us long timers to explain it yet again. Not that I mind explaining again. But I do have to pray for patience. ;)
:grouphug:Yes, it can all be quite confusing at times. I had recently learned something new. During Mass the following occurs during the greeting:
Priest says: May the Lord be with you.
People say: And also with you.
Who is "you?" In the past, I had always thought it was the priest. :blush: I was wrong. You are saying it to the Holy Spirit. Sadly, there are Catholics who don't know that.
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And here we were having a really nice, meaningful discussion.
I don't know how you meant this. People in this thread have overwhelmingly been respectful and kind, and this comment really irks me.
Let me translate what I heard: Catholics worship Mary, not Jesus. Some Catholics I don't know very well told me this. I have no firsthand knowledge of it, haven't read up on it or verified, but I just thought I would throw it out there anyhow.
Why would you feel the need to pass along something that you yourself admit you haven't researched and that you know is going to be offensive?
FTR, we don't worship Mary. We worship Jesus.
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How is rocking a baby asleep evil? How is paying one's bills on time with hard earned money evil? How is going to church to pray to God evil? Maybe I don't get the Lutheran faith the way I thought I did if they think all human kind can do is evil. There is no way I would believe someone like Mother Theresa, for example, could be doing evil in the way she answered God's call.Catholics believe in free will. We can turn to and embrace God or we can turn away from and reject Him. That is free will in a nutshell.
If you (and possibly your dh) are interested in moving toward the Catholic church I'd like to recommend checking out Scott Hahn's story He was a Protestant minister that converted to the Catholic church. He and his wife are great apologists now. You can hear his story for free from this website. Either download it or order the free CD.
:iagree: Seeing that on the chart suprized me yesterday. I instantly thought of doctors and nurses curing and helping the sick. How is that evil? A mother nursing her baby. People raising money for those in need and giving freely of themselves to others.
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My dd11 askes me to buy her clothes and then doesn't wear them.:glare:
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The cookie sheets and the iron skillet serve the same purpose as a sandwich press, correct? But you pre-heat them?
Yes, the sheets and skillet are my sandwich press, and I did pre-heat them. This was my first try. I was going after a crispy crust and creamy inside which I did acheive.
I also started with a good quality all natural bread. There was no need to oil the sheets either.
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What, exactly, is this? And how do you do it?
A Cuban sandwich is made on Cuban bread which I don't have. I used a hoagie roll instead.
I sliced open the roll and put mustard on both sides.
I added a slice of Swiss cheese on each side.
On one side only, I placed slices of pork loin to cover the cheese.
Add a few sliced dill pickles and one slice of ham.
Place other half of roll on top
I preheated my oven to 475 degrees with the 2 cookie sheets and iron skillet in side.
Once heated, I removed one cookie sheet and placed all 4 sandwiches on it and immediately placed it back on the oven rack. I put the second cookie sheet on top and my iron skillet on top of the the second cookie sheet.
I am not sure on the length of time I had them in the oven: 5 to 10 minutes maybe. I just waited to see the cheese melting.
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Yum!
I thought sandwiches with the leftover as well.
I don't own a pani press, so I used 2 preheated cookie sheets and my cast iron skillet in a very hot oven.
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I made Cuban sandwiches tonight with my left over pork loin. They were a big hit with the family.
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We always do finger food and call it our junk food night. I serve my family food like chicken wings, shrimp, cheese and crackers.
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Thanks Asta! and the bolded part is still very true. When I told my MIL she told me "not to talk that way about her pastor!" They stood by their pastor and not their son or dil. It has been very painful for us.
As, I said in an above post, things worked out for me. I am grateful, but it soooo hard to stand against a pastor/priest.
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I am finding this link which was posted earlier to be very interesting. Thanks.
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When we were exploring all of this an Orthodox leaning friend explained that it elevated the Father and the Son over the Holy Spirit, in a sense, and that might be what Mommaduck means by "turning it on its head."
However, I have since come to think that that is a rather man-made concept. One cannot be elevated above or below the other. That idea in and of itself is filled with a fear that is simply not the character of God at all. It is definitely something that would cause humans to fret though. They worry about who is or is not elevated over whom all. of. the. time. It is, perhaps, our biggest pre-occupation, and it is also the cause of the fall.
The entire concept became completely comprehensible to me when I read Theology of the Body for Beginners (West). It also helped me understand the Trinity and why Catholics are so ardently against contraception, a huge stumbling block for Protestants. Whether or not you come to agree with their argument, it is very compelling, and I think it might help people to see why Catholics and the Pope defend the teaching the way they do. I highly recommend this little volume.
In a nutshell love must be shared to be expressed, so love "proceeds" from the Father and the Son because they are in perfect relationship. Out of that perfection flows Love (the Holy Spirit). But it is not like one comes before/after the other or is more important or anything like that. Those ideas just do not apply to God. The human family is the earthly, imperfect image of that relationship. It is the more complete idea of Man being in the image of God - not man alone but rather man in relationship. The very identity of the Triune God is a relationship of pure love.
I am no theologian, and I have no doubt butchered all this. But I am really just explaining how I came to comprehend the filioque and the teachings from a Catholic perspective. I probably should not even post this given the depth of the issue. But it does come up and it hasn't been attempted thus far. I refer others to the book for a better explanation.
I think that the RC Church might have given up the notion and gone back to the other wording at some point had the addition been found to be inaccurate or untrue given what is at stake. But that did not happen.
Anyway, this understanding is how I came to find peace with the Great Schism. Just my 2 cents.
Thank you for your 2 cents. It was well worth the read IMHO.:001_smile:
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Not Catholic, but a strong sympathizer (and may yet convert one of these days).
I got Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Wow oh wow!
I said "Wow!" because, as elizabeth said, Our Lady of Guadalupe is the Blessed Mother, and what an honor to have her as your patron for the year, but also because Our Lady of Guadalupe is responsible for millions of conversions, and you said that eventually you might convert! :001_smile:I see it as a sign too.
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I want to thank the OP and the rest of the posters here for a very interesting and informative discussion.:001_smile:
RC/EO for those interested in East/West dialogue
in General Education Discussion Board
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Oh, I don't take offense at all. I hope you didn't take offense to mine as well. I was just continuing in the same matter as the other thread. Honestly, I didn't read past the first post. I am not sure I want to give up more time to anothe thread.;) KWIM? The other one is becoming a part time job.:lol: