Azalea
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Seriously, you don't think that perhaps you are being extremely rude and insensitive to the people who made the decision to not immunize for medical reasons. There are many people who have had children who reacted badly to a vaccination and chose, with doctor blessing, to forgo future immunizations. You've just painted everyone with the same broad brush and called us all ignorant.
Have you ever seen a child react to a dPt shot with temps of a 105 and convulsions? Have you ever heard the 'high pitch wail' the literature mentions? Have you ever had you child scream for 24 hours and then lay, completely unresponsive for days? Have you ever seen your own doctor scared because he never observed a reaction like that?
After you have an experience like that, then you can call me ignorant because I chose to follow the doctor's recommendation and not continue.
I clearly said for non-known medical reasons.
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What in my post (I think you are referring to #71) was extreme?
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Yes and my social pressure here probably won't have any impact. But social pressure to do the right thing for yourself and the community can move mountains. Perhaps this will plant a seed. Perhaps someone on a playground somewhere will have the guts to speak up about how wrong it is to not vaccinate rather than just smile and nod to get along.
Wow, in 2014 I am being called an extremist for advocating vaccination!!!! I think I have slipped into the twilight zone.
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Wow, incredibly judgmental much? :glare:
With that in mind, I'm sure there are many people here -- both vaxers and non-vaxers -- who probably wouldn't want their children to associate with people ignorant enough to judge others as ignorant based solely on whether or not they choose to vaccinate their children.
I think your post was way over-the-top, to the point where I was sure you were joking (until I read your follow-up post.)I have certainly never asked anyone whether they vaccinate. It has never occurred to me. However, it is time to stop mincing words regarding those who choose not to vaccinate for non-known medical reasons. Everyone who can vaccinate should for the good of the community. Those who don't are intentionally jeopardizing the health of the community.
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That's a really ugly thing to say. :crying:
Maybe somehow you didn't mean it to be??
Well I thought the OP calling people idiots who are clearly not idiots pretty mean. Children who are vaccinated may not want to associate with children who are not vaccinated for all the reasons written by other posters previously in this thread. I think the OP should reconsider her/his post based on the new information they have received and retract their post.
I am weary of science deniers.
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This isn't a vaccination thread; it's a "people is dumb" thread.
I'm a lurker on another mommy-type board. There is a discussion about vaccinations. The majority of the women say that they will not allow their fully vaxed children to play with a child that they know is not vaxed because IT COULD BE DANGEROUS to their children!!
I just shake my head.They probably really just don't want their children to associate with people ignorant enough not to vaccinate their children.
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This looks very interesting, thank you.
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Ooh. I didn't know the original was on netflix. I am really tempted to watch it. Is it the same basic plot line?
It's much, much, much better. (But I do somewhat enjoy the American remake.) When you watch it look for foreshadowing...
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Thanks for sharing part of your journey.
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That is really unfair. I am sorry you have been treated shabbily.
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OP thanks for taking the time to post this article.
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Random thoughts: Printing pages was a pain. Text was too small. Answer key text was tiny, so checking answers was a miserable task. There were many typos in the answer key. Maria Miller seems like a lovely person and her videos have occasionally been helpful. With three kids, I have used many math programs, I wouldn't recommend this one.
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I never even heard of the ACT when I was preparing to go to college. It was all about the SAT.
Me too. After reading about all the changes to the SAT, I told my daughter she can take either test, I don't care. Of course she wants to take both...
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This is true -- BUT -- there are many, many programs aimed at reaching out to low-income students in an attempt to level the playing field. For example, my oldest dd volunteered for a program in which Harvard students go into troubled Boston schools to provide free, weekly, one-on-one SAT tutoring for any student who wants it. I just don't believe the difference in scores is due to a lack of access to expensive test prep services.
FWIW, my older four all scored above 2300 and we never spent a dime on prep classes or tutoring.
Then what do you believe accounts for the difference in scores?
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I am so sorry. Thank you for being kind enough to share this information. hugs
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Your moral responsibility is to your husband and children. Before giving charity to anyone you should have a year's salary set aside, fully funded retirement (age appropriate), and fully funded college accounts for your children. If you have all of this congratulations! These are the absolute minimums for being financially healthy. If you do not have these then you truly have no money to offer and can honestly say so.
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My husband and I probably talked up "good" colleges too much to my oldest daughter. Around 8th grade I ran a net price calculator and learned that Reed College would expect us to pay $60,000 per year. Columbia University is currently priced at approx. $64,500 and this doesn't include travel costs. If prices continue to increase, as they probably will, will you have $100,000 per year to pay for a dream college? There is endless chatter about scholarships, etc. to help pay, and it is wonderful that lower income families receive a discounted price on college, but approximately 50% of families pay FULL price to attend the school of their dreams. Will you be able to offer all of your children $100,000 per year?
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Congratulations!
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The quote that summed up the debate to me (and bear in mind I am on the side of science here) is the following:
Debating a creationist is like playing chess with a pigeon. It knocks over all the pieces, defecates on the board and then flies home to its flock to declare victory. (source unknown)
What a perfect summation!!!!!
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Our younger child never went to highschool. He started at the CC after 8th grade. His SAT scores were all he needed. The CC allows three classes per semester, including the summer, so he carries a full load there as well. (we had moved so the university dual enrollment program in which the first child was enrolled was not an option for this one)
Will you need to create any kind of high school transcript?
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More to think about, thanks! You all have convinced my daughter she needs to study for the tests.
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Oh that's too bad. Thanks for the info.
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I am trying some net price calculators to see how much college will cost. By the time my oldest goes off to college, my middle will probably be taking classes full time at community college. Would that be considered having two kids enrolled in "undergraduate college or university" for purposes of determining financial aid?
Thanks awesome hive members!
Vaxed kids playing with non-vaxed kids
in The Chat Board
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I didn't say that I would discriminate against people who don't vaccinate. I was proposing a possible reason why people discriminate. Very plain and very simple and there was no intent beyond that. I really didn't expect this to become heated.
By the way I love cats and I don't have any due to my daughters allergies. However, there are breeds of cats (including Siberian) that apparently produce far less allergens. I hope to be a cat woman someday.
As far as my own personal experience recently regarding vaccinations. My husband was intending to have extensive overseas travel and went to his physician for a physical and to see if he needed vaccines. The physician did not suggest Tdap (I think that's the correct acronym for the adult version of the vaccine that includes pertussis - whooping cough). We did not know at that time that adults need booster shots - and to repeat my husband had specifically asked his physician about vaccines. My husband went on his travels and worked with a lady who was later diagnosed with whooping cough. My husband contracted what we think was whooping cough, as he broke a rib from coughing, however the test to determine this is quite invasive and the docs don't like to administer the procedure. And also they say that results from the tests can be inconclusive after the patient has started treatment. I also got a bad case of this cough. My two youngest got milder cases. My oldest did not get this as she had recently had her booster. We feel very bad that my husband flew on a plane with this illness and can only hope that no one was hurt.