Greta
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Agreed! I do very well working out at 5 AM with a fan in the window. Then I close the windows and warm the house up with a hot shower if it's winter.
I'm definitely going to have to start getting up earlier, and doing my workout first thing. I'm on a medication which makes me drowsy. I take it at night, but it still makes it very hard to wake up in the morning. But I think as the temperatures climb, it's going to be easier to wake up earlier than it will be to workout later in the day!
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Just 40 minutes of medium-intensity cardio today. Might have done 60 if it weren't so bleeping hot in my house. Ugh, it's going to be a miserable summer. I really need to move to a cooler climate. I'm not cut out for this!
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A hermit, or possibly a lighthouse keeper, which is a lot like being a hermit except you get paid.
Neither of those being particularly viable options, my runner-up was "independently wealthy".
When we finally get down to the level of "maybe in this lifetime" the answer is author, preferably wealthy and successful author who doesn't need a day job and is therefore able to live alone in the woods or something.
I wasn't a very social child.
:lol: Love this answer! I wanted to be some sort of scientist in some sort of lab (that was about as much as I had thought through at that point) because I love science, but also because I wanted to work with things, information, ideas, not people.
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I will look into Mutu Mamas. I've repaired my abs after the first 2 by going very slowly and with very specific about routine but not sure if it was Mutu Mamas. This time around I have a good amount of weight to lose because of a second term miscarriage, the depression eating from that, and then 2 other pregnancies all back to back. Once I drop about 30lbs I'm going to slow down and repair my abs. My gap isn't too big this time around luckily.
Thanks for the input I appreciate it!
:grouphug: I'm sorry for your loss.
I've never had to face the challenge of repairing abs after a c-section or any other kind of abdominal surgery, so I'm grateful for that. I've always had a bit of a belly pooch, even back when I was a skinny kid. I've just always been kind of weak in that area. Past time to address that, huh?
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Did chest and back today for weights, plus a little moderate-intensity cardio.
ETA: And I did abs! The trainer at the gym who gave me the free consultation said that you can (and should) do abs more frequently than other muscles, because they recover more quickly.
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The migraine medication helped a lot, so I was able to make it to that circuit training class this morning. So glad I went, because I think the exercise was medicine too - I felt better and better as the class went on! I'll try to go for a walk this evening, too, once the sun is starting to go down.
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I don't know how to work out which is why I like programs. I have done programs where it works on different body parts on different days and programs where it works on the entire body and rotates between strength, cardio, and yoga. I'm hoping to start the couch to 10K program in the spring and I plan to do one full body strength training a week and one upper body strength training a week. I don't really have a preference. I think I really like the variety of switching between philosophies.
I lose more fat with circuit training. The most fat I've ever lost is with insanity. I didn't understand why the results were so impressive until I read The New Rules of Lifting for Women. Each day starts out with an incredibly intense warm up that leaves you sweaty and exhausted. After the warm-up you have the stretch where your heart rate drops and your body cools down. According to NROL when this happens you release a hormone telling your body to feed off of your fat rather than your food, or something like that. I'm sure there's a lot of technical jargon I'm forgetting. I don't recommend Insanity because of the enormous quantity people that have been injured during the program. I do however recommend and incredibly difficult warm up followed by a short break if your goal is to burn fat.
Interesting, thanks Slache!
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What worked well for me was incremental steps.
I started with 3 bodyweight exercises: plank, squats, push-ups (started against a wall!) For me, it was important to start this way because it was not too intimidating. I could do it.
I learned more and incorporated more as time went on. I am currently doing a routine designed by a personal trainer and a PT. I am getting ready to do the program from New Rules of Lifting Supercharged.
I have a gym membership plus most of what I need to lift at home. That makes it easier for me to have a choice. If I feel my "want to" lagging, I go to the gym b/c once I'm there, there is nothing else to do, KWIM? Whereas at home, I can keep finding things to do to put it off.
Thank you, Laurie!
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Couldn't exactly "like" this, but it's nice to know I'm not the only one. I was hypoglycemic when I was young, and menopause has brought it back. I tried really hard to cut out snacks until I started using the meter and realized how low my blood sugar was getting. I was hating myself for getting hungry, but it's just the way my body works. I had to start eating every two hours to get things settled (and drinking OJ during the night a couple of times). Now I'm focused on eating every three hours, but keeping the meals and snacks small. The doc said I would start losing weight once I stopped mistreating my body, and he seems to be right.
I'm sorry you have this to deal with too, and in fact yours sounds worse than mine. I'm able to get through the night just fine. I don't have much of an appetite for breakfast (I like breakfast foods, I'm just not hungry first thing in the morning), but I've learned I have to force myself to eat anyway. I've also found that lots of protein can help me stretch the distance between meals a bit. Still less time than most people can go between meals, but it helps!
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I've been enjoying the thread, but not actually posting my workouts! So I'll start doing that.
Monday I did legs and walked two miles.
Tuesday, I did arms and shoulders, and 20 minutes of HIIT on the stair-stepper machine, and the same two-mile walk.
Today, I was planning to attend a circuit training class at my gym, but I woke up with a migraine (a chronic problem for me) so I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to power through. I took my medication, so we'll see how it goes. I'll need to leave here in about an hour to make it, so I hope the medicine works well and quickly.
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Good article!
Unfortunately for me, neither intermittent fasting nor ketogenic are options. I have hypoglycemia, and I crash and burn if I don't eat every few hours. And I ate ketogenic for more than ten years. Loved, loved, loved it . . . until I didn't. I started having hormone problems, and a friend pointed me to some information showing that while ketogenic works very well for men and children, not always so great for women.
So I think my only dietary option is frequent protein-based, carb and fat balanced meals, something along the lines of the Zone. I'm trying to eat really clean, with NO refined flours or sugars, MSG, industrial oils, etc. Minimum of five servings of fruits and veggies every day. I think that's the best I can do.
And I'm trying to increase my "calories out" by putting on some muscle!
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Of course you haven't.
With no other behavior proscribed biblically do we form groups and identify ourselves by affirmation of that behavior. You won't find the the pro-Miser group or the pro-Glutton group.
I'm not even sure any more how this leg of the conversation got to this point or where it's going! :lol: But there are plenty of Biblically proscribed behaviors that are condoned or at least tolerated in our culture. We live in a diverse culture, that's to be expected. I would think that misers, for example, haven't really needed to form a group since miserliness has not historically been criminalized, since misers have not been discriminated against, publicly vilified and shamed, etc. There's really no need for a movement to tolerate misers, because being a miser is a right in our culture, though certainly not held up as the ideal.
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In the second case, I think that doesn't hold, because if I am remembering correctly, the students had a previous day where they all wore pro-gay shirts. So this was his response in kind. If the first is permitted, so must be the second. Otherwise, maybe a "no slogan or images" rule is fine.
I doubt that the pro-gay shirts were telling straight students to be ashamed of themselves.
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No, especially not where we see discriminatory behavior, such as the school suspensions in the last post I wrote on this. This happens all over.
I said the LGBT community wants people to stop publicly shaming them, and then you posted a story about a kid wearing a shirt saying "BE ASHAMED" to the LGBT kids at his school. I think that proves my point.
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Are you serious? There ARE Lgbt groups everywhere, even in schools and they work hard to silence any opposition anywhere. I'm wondering if you live elsewhere.
Okay, I get it now. What I see as "please stop hating us and discriminating against us and publicly shaming us" you see as "demanding affirmation". I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this one.
ETA: Yes, LGBT people have every right to form groups to fight against the discrimination that they are so frequently subjected to. But with the way you worded your post, I thought you were talking about people joining a homeschooling group, for example, and announcing their gluttony or miserliness versus announcing their sexuality and demanding that everyone affirm it. I've never experienced either one!
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What? Why do you think that they are seen as gay, instead of as a struggling individual ?
I'm most certainly not saying that all Christians who disapprove of homosexuality see it this way, but I've definitely seen that attitude, yes. When discussing sins that pretty much *everyone* struggles with at some point in their lives, there's compassion. When discussing homosexuality, there's disgust. The sin is all they see.
You presumably are not joining groups identifying yourself proudly as a glutton or miser, as if it is the primary marker of your identity, and demanding that others affirm it.... are you?
What's the point of this question? Gay people do not join groups proudly announcing their homosexuality and demanding that others affirm it.
How do you know this same person won't also argue with her child about the failure to tithe or failure to be kind?
I was talking about haranguing them about it to the point where they threaten the relationship. Do you know anyone who would end their relationship with their child over tithing disagreements?
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I wanted to ask those of you who lift weights:
How many times per week do you lift?
Do you prefer whole-body workouts or splits (e.g. upper body one day, lower body one day)?
What do you think of circuit training?
I'm just curious what has worked well for you, what you enjoy, that sort of thing.
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I'm not my sexuality. I said that way early in this thread, so it is truly hard to relate to people who think they are their sexual behavior.
Actually, I think that's exactly what LGBT people want: to be treated like their sexuality is not the sum of who they are.
That's exactly, I suspect, one of the reasons that some Christians treat homosexuality as worse than other sins, because they are seeing the person as their sexuality. If I struggle with greed, or gluttony, or whatever, I'm still seen as a whole person who happens to struggle with that issue. But if I'm gay, I'm seen as gay. Period. And that is why a Christian parent who would never consider haranguing his or her child over things like not giving sufficiently to the poor, will make the child's homosexuality a hill to die on, worthy of threatening and sometimes even destroying the relationship.
(ETA: It's just a theory I have based on the way I've heard those who disapprove talk about homosexuality versus the way they talk about other sins.)
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I'm not arguing parental rejection doesn't hurt a child. I didn't say that at all.
What I am saying is that parental disapproval of homosexuality is not a proven cause of the negative effects listed, which are simply assumed to be the result of parental disapproval in that brochure.
How could one know it is not the kid's own conscience and the resulting disharmony with what he believes causing of all those negative effects? How do you KNOW, is what I am asking, and that's a reasonable question when someone simply presents a command to do A or B WILL result. Where is the proof for that assertion? That's all I am asking.
Edited for clarity.
I had to run out and do some errands before I could reply to you, and Paige already said (better than I will) what I was going to. But I'll briefly state it anyway. Your arguments would make sense to me if the study had compared gay and transgendered persons to the population as a whole. But since it compared gay and transgendered who were accepted by their parents to gay and transgendered who were rejected by their parents, I don't really understand why you're arguing this.
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Once again, I mismanaged the quote function. Greta, I wanted to say it's not a minor thing to overcome your fear! Great job.
Thank you so much! :001_smile:
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But you are simply assuming a cause-effect situation that may not be present. You are simply stating without evidence that parents not affirming their child's variant behavior cause depression, drug use, and unwise sexual activity.
Let's say every parent of every kid who engaged in this was whole-heartedly accepting and considered it completely fine and benign.
Are you honestly arguing that eliminates the high rates of depression,suicide, drug use, and sexual activity of this group?
I think that is an unsupported leap.
Edited to add that I realize I missed the link so I went to look at it, expecting research. There is no research there. It is merely a brochure with lots of photos of happy families, some diagrams, and lots of words about how a parent must accept this or all these dire results will occur.
Human nature and emotional needs being what they are, I'm pretty dumbfounded you would argue that parental rejection doesn't cause emotional harm. I agree that it's generally wise not to jump to the conclusion that causation equals correlation. But in this instance, I think the causative element is abundantly clear. Acceptance is one of our most basic emotional needs. Rejection is excruciating.
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Just to explain: I selected both INTJ and ISTJ because I'm right on the border between the two.
ETA: My daughter is INFJ and it essentially was her personality that made me decide to homeschool!
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Someone up-thread mentioned kids sitting in school - aside from improving diet, I am sure activity in children is a huge factor. Things like kids being able to walk to school daily, walk to friends and activities, play outside, have games and sports rather that tv, computers, or whatever, is a huge factor. I would even say that sometimes organized sports can work against kids because so many are given up at adolescence, because they become too time consuming or expensive or just not that fun - the fact that for many adults there will be no way to carry on in the favoured activity doesn't help.
My school (small town in Oklahoma in the 80's and early 90's) really failed on the P.E. front. It wasn't so bad in elementary, it was just fun stuff. But once we got into middle school, we got divided into those kids who the coach thought would make good players for team sports, and those who wouldn't. And those of us who wouldn't (I got put into that group, and I honestly didn't understand why. Up to that point, I'd thought of myself as a fast runner and kind of athletic girl! But that sure changed my perception of myself.) basically were simply told to go over there and occupy yourselves and leave me alone while I work with the kids who matter. And since team sports were the ONLY thing offered in subsequent years, those of us put in the "you suck" group all stopped taking P.E. as soon as we were allowed to (7th or 8th grade, can't remember for sure).
There's a charter school here in my city that we considered enrolling my daughter in, and when we attended parents' night, the P.E. coach talked about how his goal is to teach kids lifelong fitness. What a concept! It is a small school, and doesn't even have any ball teams. Just fitness classes. I thought that was such a great idea. And I couldn't help but notice that the P.E. coach at that school actually looked fit. All the coaches at the school that I attended were severely obese. (I always thought that was weird even when I was growing up: the coaches were obese but the teachers who sat in their classrooms all day weren't! Maybe it was an unusual sample.)
My point being: I think the heavy emphasis on team sports is failing kids who aren't interested in or aren't stellar at team sports. And you're right, it's even failing the kids who are interested in or good at those things, because that leaves them with nothing after they graduate high school (except for the few who go on to do college sports).
I hope that more schools will start to make "lifelong fitness" the goal of their P.E. classes. Weight issues aside, that's just so much better for us mentally and physically!
I'm 42 years old, and I'm just now starting to "recover" the image of myself as a potentially athletic person.
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It's not just us. Animals are getting fatter too. And maybe it's the case that we feed our beloved pets more, and maybe it's the case that we throw out more food so the opossums feast - but lab rats? Zoo animals on a controlled diet that hasn't changed in 30 years?
Did you see this article? Apparently, a study shows that somebody 30 years ago, your age/sex, with the same diet and exercise routine you have, would weigh less than you do today. Is it just me, or is that crazy?
Wow. Very interesting and disturbing stuff! I wonder if some of the commercial products we use without thinking (who knows which ones, household cleansers, lawn and garden stuff, body care products) will turn out to be endocrine disruptors, or something like that. Rather scary!
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Thanks. I've never tried any product like this. I do rely upon coffee to get me going in the morning! But I'll consider this.