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Hey, those are the grades my two younger are going into right now! Since we start up (at least a few subjects) on Monday, I can say their current ages:
5th grader: 10 y 1 m (young for her grade. Around here for public school you have to be 5 by Sept. 1 and dd's bday is just 6 weeks before that).
2nd grader: 7 y 8 m (older for her grade. December bday.)
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Group lessons this summer worked out to $4 per lesson (1/2 hour lesson in a group of 3-7 kids, depending on session & level).
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We'll take several days, maybe even a week, to do the CWP problems that correspond to the section we just finished. For fourth grade, it seems that I most often assigned a 2-page spread each day which would typically be about 6 problems. She might do the first day or two on her own (the easier problems) but we probably always talked through the challenging ones together. We talked about the steps needed or draw the bar diagram or whatever would be helpful to figure out the strategy, then dd would finish up the math on her own.
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That sounds comparable to here. I was paying $60/mo for each of my dds who were both level 3/4. We switched to ballet last year (same amount of time per week) and my cost went down from $120/mo to $70/mo. My girls are loving ballet and it's a great studio with lots of home schoolers. Wish we had switched sooner!
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We budget $100 per month for homeschooling. It is automatically taken out of dh's paycheck and put in a separate account. So $1200 per year for 2 kids or $600 each (but 2nd one is cheap--first kid costs more). This covers curriculum and books only. Piano lessons, ballet, swim lessons, etc. are things we would do no matter where they went to school.
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We do the CWP section when we finish a chapter in the text and workbook. So if we just finished addition with decimals then we go on to the word problems for addition with decimals. We often do them together. Dd can do the easier ones on her own but usually needs help on the more challenging ones.
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I don't expect dd to do the text problems--just the workbook. We go through the textbook lesson together and will look at a couple of problems together as examples, then I turn her loose with the corresponding workbook section. One workbook section per day. She also does work in Horizons so I don't worry about her not getting enough math. And she seems to master the concepts just fine with just the workbook problems.
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Try Office Max if you have one. We've had luck there.
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Not sure this is the real WTM advice, but for many folks, beginning a real Latin grammar program fits at about 3rd grade. So if you want to do Prima or Minimus or Song School Latin or something that is less than a real grammar program, I don't think it will matter too much whether you do first or second grade. I think we did Prima second semester of 1st and part of 2nd, then did Minimus the rest of 2nd before starting LFC A in 3rd.
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We love the Let's Read and Find Out series. We own a bunch and always checked some out of the library too. To find good books, you might check out a few programs like the Noeo level 1 science courses and the Winter Promise animals program and see what books they recommend. We have the Kingfisher Animal Encyclopedia. I wish we had a more advanced animal encyclopedia--I think my kids would not have minded an older level instead of Kingfisher. That said, they do read the Kingfisher one.
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Try to find Scandinavian ones. My parents got one when they went to Norway. We always called them what sounds like "doona" but I think is spelled duni, and I think that's Norwegian. Later they got them for us kids and the quality was superb. My kids have cheap American versions and the little feathers leak out all the time--not the same thing at all!
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I'm using something I remembered having in my college days--book rings. You 3-hole punch your papers, then put a metal ring through all of the top holes, another through the middle holes, and a third through the bottom holes. I bought a package with 40 book rings from Office Max for probably $3-$4 (don't really remember, but pretty cheap). I'm thinking of teaching a co-op science course and if I need to bind papers, this is how I'll do it as students only pay a $10 materials fee that needs to cover everything. I think you can use a cardstock cover and back to make it a bit more durable, but it will not be as durable as a coil binding. I just got the small book rings (about 1") but there were much larger ones available too.
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My 5th grader is moving on to vocab this year in place of spelling. Seems like a better use of our time at this point.
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We'll be using Elements this year and I'm contemplating teaching it in our co-op. From my quick reading earlier this summer, I remember only activities, not experiments. I'm going to add Adventures with Atoms and Molecules for experiments. I have the library copy and love what I see--the experiments start with a question like "do molecules move" and then have simple experiments using stuff from around the house to find out the answer (like dropping food color in water for the above). I think the two will tie in together really well.
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We had no difficulty starting at the beginning of 1st when my dd was 6.5 years old. Like others have said, she was reading and writing well and all went smoothly. The difficulty level stays pretty constant...what your child is asked to do at the beginning is pretty much what she or he will still be doing at the end of the year. And for copywork you can choose a shorter sentence or longer sentence for them to copy. We got a little behind by skipping too much during some busy fall days and I found that we could easily do two worksheets in 1 day in spring to catch up. This meant basically doing both a narration and copywork in 1 day.
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We finished SFC A and are waiting patiently for B to come out. SFC is more of a grammar approach than an immersion approach. We also use LFC and I appreciate the similarity in the structure of the two programs. I would definitely recommend the DVD. We started with the workbook alone before the DVD was out and we bogged down in it. My dds like the DVD teacher (who wrote the book). She's perky and fun. Even with the DVD you can bog down in some chapters. I don't think there is really enough practice to be mastering some of the stuff. But I haven't found anything I like better...
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If the money just isn't available, you can certainly home school for less. But if you can swing it, I think money spent on books is an excellent investment. The largest part of our home school budget is spent on real books, mostly for history. I use a less expensive base program (Biblioplan, about $30 per year and now I own all four years so no cost for our second cycle through) but still probably average about $500 a year on books. But we have an excellent home library that my kids turn to over and over. Books are not just read once around here. Our style of teaching and learning is based on reading (as opposed to workbooks or hands-on) and though we used our public library a lot, I really like having good books on a variety of topics available all of the time in our home.
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You might be able to do LFC A in 3 days a week, but if you're going to continue with Latin I think you will need more days after A. We did A in 4 days a week and B in 5 days a week (which I expect to continue for C). If I were going to do A in 3 days of 20-30 minutes, I would do the following:
Day 1: Watch DVD--chant and grammar lesson. Look through grammar pages in book together.
Day 2: Watch DVD chant only (and chant with it). Do worksheet.
Day 3: Chant through vocab list in book. Do quiz. If you are getting the history reader, I would translate a chapter of that orally, but you don't begin it until something like week 18.
I would put the chant CD in the car and play it regularly (at least once a week) while driving to kid activities. It helps you learn all of the vocab.
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We have 5 houses that are very close to our backyard. Our neighbor works at night and sleeps during the day. My kids don't really play loudly, but they will occasionally scream if they don't like something their sister did. I will not tolerate screaming in this set-up. It's only okay to scream if you are being kidnapped or attacked by a pit bull or something severe like that. I don't want neighbors thinking some horrible thing is happening when it's usually something like "she dumped sand on my head." So if I hear screaming, they come inside. Outdoor play is over. I haven't heard screaming in awhile now...
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We have done several of these (Colonial Life, Revolutionary War, Civil War), but we add them in to a very full history curriculum that is primarily reading. For me, two per year is comfortable, three would be too much. But we weren't using them as stand alones. We just did the lapbook portions of each. Maybe you could do 3 if you're not adding it to something else.
After doing them with my girls in 3rd/K and 4th/1st, when I had the opportunity to teach one in a co-op, I made the age range for the class 3rd-6th. There is a lot of cutting and pasting that is really better suited to upper elementary. Be prepared to have to help your dc quite a bit.
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Mine likes it, but I've always thought it's because we use a whiteboard! Everything is more fun on a whiteboard.
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I think there is a jump in expectations from the earlybird books to the primary math 1 books. Primary math 1 can look pretty easy at a glance, but there is some pretty sophisticated thinking going on. Some math programs have kids just memorize addition facts to 20. Singapore has kids understand number bonds to 10 very well (i.e. be able to "see" 10 as 8+2 or 6+4, etc.) and be able to use those bonds to figure out how to add 8+6 (rather than just memorizing 8+6=14). The child will think, "what would I need to make the 8 a 10? Oh, 2. So I'll take 2 from the 6 and I know 4 is leftover and it is very easy to add that 4 to my new 10--the answer is 14." But be able to do that in a second. It may seem like more work than memorizing, but it is a great skill that will make harder mental arithmetic much easier (like adding 58+6, or 58+26). But it is not something to rush into too early.
For my youngest, who finished the earlybird books in preschool, we used a different program for K so that we wouldn't hit primary math 1 before she was ready for all of that mental number manipulation. We used Horizons K since we supplement with that program anyway, but I am sure that there are lots of good programs that would work. So you might just go through earlybird at a pace that is comfortable for your ds, but don't be anxious to jump into 1A too soon. Maybe just use some RS games since you know them or pick up a workbook he can do on his own like Horizons after he finished earlybird. I am not familiar with Essentials--maybe that can follow earlybird???
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How are you preparing your blueberries? I'm thinking scones and muffins for mine...would love to know what you're doing (because I might buy more!) .
We do blueberry muffins and the occasional blueberry lemon pound cake, but most of them get eaten straight out of the freezer by my 10 yo. We also make blueberry yogurt parfaits: a little Nancy's vanilla yogurt, a tablespoon or so of granola, and a handful of frozen blueberries. Yum!
Questions about 3rd grade latin
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Start the real thing. 3rd grade is fine for LFC A. We did Prima Latina and Minimus in 2nd and they both are just giving little hints of Latin. I really wanted the big picture and how the whole thing worked. Loved LFC A (with the DVD).