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  1. 4 hours ago, DawnM said:

    I think of it being hard in terms of being excommunicated.   Losing your support and your families ties IS hard.

    Leaving isn't being excommunicated. And they don't lose their families unless there are other issues. I got a ride in my Great-uncle Tobe's horse and buggy as a child when he visited my grandpa when were there. I have been invited for dinner in the home of a chance met 3rd cousin in a state I have never lived. Seriously, I said my grandpa was the youngest son of ___________, and she said, "Oh, you must be Bill and Rosie's granddaughter." It didn't matter that they had left the Amish church. Many do. My grandpa's funeral was about half Amish in attendance.

     

    Oops. I have in fact lived in that state. It was over the border from the people we were staying with. But I had no previous acquaintance with my 3rd cousin and the previous generations hadn't had contact in 50 years.

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  2. It has never been hard to leave the Amish church. People left in every generation, as many as 50%. And, while they typically go only to 8th, they are bilingual and their 8th grade is better than what many kids get. And if they want more education, it is possible to go on. My own grandmother attended 9th grade at the local high school 80 years ago. It was the high school who decided the Amish girl didn't need Algebra and other courses she wanted to take. She stopped after 9th because of the school. Her dad was fine with her attending.

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  3. 16 hours ago, ktgrok said:

    Thank you to those that had more knowledge of collapsible batons than me! Like I said, I went into this discussion with fictional knowledge only, lol. (they work WAY better against knife attacks in books, it seems)

    Batons could be useful, but there are a lot of factors in play with any close combat. Your opponent's skill, height, and adrenaline levels would be some.

    Training can do a lot, but there is still risk involved. My 5 ft tall daughter can kick her 6'3" father in the head. My 5'10" daughter can take him down with a rear naked choke. We call my 14 year old son The Flying Squirrel because as a 13 yo he could strike his opponent's head with a combat stick from 8+ feet away in one very fast, accurate spring. All three of them have hundreds of training hours. All are really good at hand shots (strikes to the hand or forearm of the hand holding the weapon). But all of them miss sometimes. And cops aren't getting 2 or more hours of training each week.

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  4. We know loads of older kids who have started in their teens and almost-teens. It has been great for them.

    Be prepared if you start for the not so hidden costs. Belt testing. Equipment.  You don't have to do tournaments, but they are fun once you get farther along, so maybe one or two of those per year. We get a family discount, but we still spend enough to notice.

  5. 7 hours ago, EKS said:

    If you're interested in the origins of the movement, I highly recommend the book Cynical Theories.  

    I purchased this book after you mentioned it in a recent thread. I haven't made it very far into it yet, since some of the language is new to me and I don't have much quiet time to read anymore. It is thought provoking. I'm interested to see if the two issues I have seen are mentioned.

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