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  1. Well I will have to introduce to the kids that this is dad's belief and this is mom's belief and we each read our own texts. You think that would confuse the kids much?

     

    I'm in the same situation. However, I've told my dh that if he wants her to be taught YEC, he can teach it to her in the evenings. So far, he hasn't done it. :D

     

    I have mentioned to my dd that we believe differently, but I don't think it's something she understands yet. She loves National Geographic for Kids, and I've heard her quoting "millions of years" from an article to her secular hs'ing friend. So, I would say I'm having the most influence.

     

    However, as she enters high school, DH might be more adamant about it, and I will have to teach both. I suppose that will be easier for her to understand in the teen years, than it would be now.

  2. We used to have only cell phones. I have a hearing problem, and I couldn't hear well on the cells.

     

    Now, we have a home phone through our internet provider. I'm not sure you can call it a landline. Digital phone? The reception is much clearer than my old cell phone.

     

    I use a Tracfone for when I need to get in touch with someone away from home. I use about 30 minutes a month. I also use it for texts, which are 1/3 of a minute.

     

    The combination of our home phone and the Tracfone costs me about $30 per month, which is considerably cheaper than my cell phone.

  3. I like it because you only need the worktext, and not three separate books. It's easier for me to buy the CD, or a download, and print it at home.

     

    I also like MM's word problems. They relate more to real life, which I think is big plus.

     

    I'll be the lone dissenter, I bought the MM all inclusive CD and neither of my kids like it at all. Granted ds is not really a mathy person, and dd is young, but I'm contemplating selling the CD. The only reason I haven't yet is I keep thinking that if I wait and have them use it later, they'll enjoy it.

     

    I started MM when my dd was 8, and she hated it. We did a year of Singapore. I tried it again when she was 9, and she still hated it.

     

    Now that she's 10 (in fifth grade this year), she chose it, after looking at samples of Singapore and MUS. I was surprised, but relieved, since I had bought the DVD. We are doing MM4 this year, as I don't think she could do MM5 yet.

  4. Do you have a link to the study done with adults?

    I could not find any in the article linked, and the TIMMS website seems to indicate that they assess performance of 4th and 8th graders.

     

    I would be very interested to see how they measure adult scientific literacy and what criteria and questions they use, since many experiences in daily life make me shudder about the scientific ignorance of people.

     

    No, I'm sorry I don't have a link to the study done with adults. It's been awhile since I read the article, and I forget where I found it. This thread reminded me of it, so I posted the link.

  5. Surprisingly, the U.S. doesn't do badly in science wrt adults, and it isn't related to textbook learning.

     

    School is not where most Americans learn most of their science

     

     

    We contend that a major educational advantage enjoyed by the U.S.

    relative to the rest of the world is its vibrant free-choice science learning landscape—a landscape filled with a vast array of digital resources, educational television and radio, science museums, zoos, aquariums, national parks, community activities such as 4-H and scouting and many other scientifically enriching enterprises. The sheer quantity and importance of this science learning landscape lies in plain sight but mostly out of mind. We believe that nonschool resources—used by learners across their lifetimes from childhood onward—actually account for the vast majority of Americans’ science learning.

     

    For example, for more than a decade, performance by U.S. schoolaged

    children on international tests such as the quadrennial Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS) and the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) has followed a consistent pattern. Elementary-school-aged U.S. children perform as well as or better than most children in the world, but the performance of older U.S. children has been mediocre at best. Interestingly, however, for more than 20 years, U.S. adults have consistently outperformed their international counterparts on science literacy measures, including adults from South Korea and Japan, as well as Western European countries such as Germany and the United Kingdom. If schooling is the primary causative factor affecting how well the public understands science, how do we explain these findings?

     

    Interestingly, it is just at the point when school-based science instruction begins in earnest that American children start falling behind their international peers. Meanwhile, what accounts for the high performance of American adults?

     

    A growing body of evidence supports the contention that the public learns science in settings and situations outside of school.
  6. We're moving in a few days, 1000+ miles. Dh's company is paying for professional packers and movers. The packing will take two days and the loading, one.

     

    Thanks. :)

     

    Do I tip the movers?

     

     

    My dh is a driver. So he would say yes. :D

     

     

    If so, how much?

     

     

    He said it's based on how big your load is (do you know how much they said it weighed?) Going by what you have posted, he guessed $20 per person.

     

    Do I pay the driver and let him divvy it up or pay each worker individually?

     

     

    Give it to them individually. He has had people give him one check, and then he pays the helpers with his own cash, and deposits the check later. It's just more convenient if you have the cash on hand.

     

    Do I tip each day or once when they're finished and ready to go?

     

     

    The packers are separate from the driver, so you would tip them once they finish packing.

     

    The driver will most likely use two groups of helpers, one to load at your old home, and another group at your new home. So, you tip the first group of helpers after they finish loading. You tip the driver and the second group of helpers when they finish unloading.

     

    If the helpers are one group, then tip them at the end, after unloading. However, since you're travelling 1,000 miles, I would guess the driver will have different helpers, since helpers are usually local.

     

     

    Should I provide lunch, or are drinks and snacks sufficient?

     

     

    He said that's up to you, and how much money you have. He has had people not even offer water, and then others have lunch, dinner, drinks and a tip. So, it's up to you. They do enjoy it if a meal and drinks are provided, but it's not something they expect, necessarily.

  7. Some people really can't. Some people really shouldn't. Some people really don't want to and there's nothing wrong with that. Some people kind of want to but are conflicted about it and have difficulty figuring out the logistics. Some people really want to but just can't find a satisfactory way to make it work for their specific life situation, which is nobody's business anyway.

     

    :iagree:

     

    I also think some kids do better in ps.

     

    Also, I don't buy that you can do homeschooling well if you just try. If that type of thinking worked, I'd be a millionaire!

  8. From what I was told by a trainer, you need to do the lunges, squats and jumps to strengthen the muscles around your knees. The key is the proper form.

     

    She said to pretend you were sitting on a coffee table when lunging. I searched for some info, and found this site.

     

    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/diet_and_fitness/article4401108.ece

     

    But there are routes to prevention for all. Building the strength of muscles supporting the knee helps to protect it, as do exercises that develop other body parts. Knee workouts should include movements across all three planes: front and back, side-to-side and rotational. Here's how:

     

    Squats: Stand with feet shoulder-width apart. Lower your body by bending your knees, with your hips moving back as if you are sitting in a chair. Keep the weight directly over your heels. Bend your knees to about 45 degrees, pause, then slowly return to the starting position.

     

    Once you strengthen the muscles around your knees, you should be able to do the jumps.

     

    As far as I can tell, Jillian Michaels doesn't include information on the proper form for lunging. So I agree with listening to your body. Definitely find the proper form, or modify the exercise.

     

    I do her Banish Fat, Boost Metabolism DVD, and I have had to modify some things, specifically the toe touches at the beginning during warm up. You need to warm up the leg muscles first, before stretching them.

  9. I have a friend that does this frequently. She is a passive parent, and does not correct her children very much. It can be very frustrating, and I don't get together with her often. Also, her children scream a lot, which drives me batty.

     

    However, I think sometimes it's my fault. I notice she gets worse about this when I talk a lot. I think sometimes I talk so much, I wear her out, lol.

  10. You could add liquid fabric softener to the rinse water. I do that with dh's work clothes. I can't use scented detergent, because I'm highly allergic, so I use unscented bounce for my clothes.

     

    One detergent that has a wonderful lavender scent that does last is Trader Joe's liquid detergent. I'm not allergic to it either. I just have to pay more for it.

  11. Possibly. I guess it's all in how you look at it, really.

     

    That's true. FWIW, I can see both sides. However, I think it might have more to do with desire or how much you value something. I think a choice for faith can be made if the desire is great enough or you find enough value in it.

     

    I don't mean that as a criticism of those who do not believe. I have had many doubts in my own faith walk, and can understand why they do not make the choice. In fact, their choice is probably more rational than mine.

  12. Do you take Peter literally?

     

     

    It depends. Sometimes it's a matter of interpretation.

     

    However, I do not take all of the Bible literally.

     

    As I've said, there should be discussion as to what submission means, and what spouses should do in different circumstances. While I think it's a grave error to not accept any part of the Bible as the inspired, inerrant Word of God, I would rather hear comments like yours about Paul's letters upfront. A lot of people skip over that point, and it's difficult to have a conversation about the details when you're coming from such different places. So the difference really isn't so much about men and women, but what do you think of God's Word-- is it something we can pick and choose what we like from, or is it God's authoritative Word to mankind with no error or flaw?

     

    I am a Christian and believe that the Bible records man's experiences with God. However, I do not think it is without error. I believe it is up to the Church to interpret it.

     

    If it is without error, then it's ineffective as such. There are 30,000 different denominations with different interpretations.

     

    Believe me, it's no picnic being a "fundamentalist" either. LOL Especially on this board!! :tongue_smilie:

     

    LOL! I'm sure.

     

    Genesis is not a problem when you consider it one of many creation stories documented by humans to explain the existence of mankind, the universe, the existence of evil\bad things and spiritual truth.

     

    Spiritual truth does not have to be literal to me in order to be accurate, timeless, real, and meaningful.

     

    Adam and Eve, as useful prototypes, reflect the thinking of ancient times. The spiritual truths of the Christian Bible transcend culture, dogma, and bias. "Picking and choosing" is not an issue when you have the Christian Bible in context of Truth, metaphorically offered and written by human hands.

     

    I agree.

     

    Just to be absolutely clear:

     

    My reaction isn't because of a reaction to "submit". It is not because I assume an abusive, or even authoritarian husband "barking" orders or a passive, doormat wife. Explaining to me how "your" function of wifely submission is loving, kind, Godly, or respectful doesn't change things.

     

    It's not a matter of not understanding about "biblical submission".

     

    You won't find me throwing out red herring or straw man challenges to wife-only submission such as "what if he's abusive\alcoholic\name dysfunction.

     

    I am against "wife only" submission theoretically, and doctrinally. I believe the wife-only submission model is inherently an inappropriate distribution of power and against the spirit of the law, and against God's design for human relationships.

     

    Well said!

  13. Yes, I think it's a choice.

     

    I think that, when people believe in gods, it is because they want to and can ignore other countering factors over faith in their belief.

     

    When people do not believe in gods, it is NOT (necessarily) because they don't want to, but because they cannot or will not ignore countering factors.

     

     

    Wouldn't either of those be a choice?

  14. This.

     

    I think the parent-child relationship needs to be considered here. I would want, as a parent, my child to feel free to talk to me about what is going on in their lives, including what is going on with their friends. And if one of their friends is doing something that I know their parents wouldn't approve of but that isn't clearly dangerous or self-destructive, and my child tells me that in conversation, if I turn around and inform that parent, I feel like I'd be shutting down an important line of communication with my child. If my child is censoring himself or herself because they are afraid that, if they say something, I'm going to turn around and tell on their friend, then that's a problem. And, IMO, it's not a problem with my child, since their role in their friend's life is that of friend, not informant for the parent. It's a problem with me.

     

    I'd expect my children to know that there are exceptions. If they told me a friend was abusing drugs, being physically or sexually abused, struggling with seriously problem like an eating disorder or self-injury, or otherwise behaving in ways or dealing with situations that were an immediate, serious threat to their physical well-being, we would have to take action, whether that meant alerting the parents or a counselor or something along those lines. But, I also feel like, before I have any responsibility to inform other parents of their teen child's misbehavior, I have a responsibility to be a safe, trustworthy person for my own children to talk to. And, I think I'd be making that incredibly difficult if I were going to relay information they shared with me to other parents, with the exception of the kind of examples I provided.

     

    I don't think this is about being overly worried about one's "reputation." It's about being a friend, not an informant. And it's about being able to talk freely with one's parents--which is a great thing!--without having to worry about whether or not your parent is going to turn around and tell another adult something you told them in confidence (because I think most parent-child conversations are held in some degree of confidence).

     

    Maybe I'm just hot and hormonal, but this idea that it's not only fine, but necessary, to turn around and tell a parent something your child told you about their kid, that you didn't witness and that isn't clearly dangerous, and that if your child resists that, that means something bad about them, is just really rubbing me the wrong way.

     

    :iagree:

  15. I haven't used the canister.

     

    However, I have used one of their uprights for twelve years. It still works, even though it has a problem with the brush. I used a friend's Dirt Devil, and my Riccar worked better, even though the brush part isn't working properly.

     

    The brush worked fine until it was ten years old. They last pretty long. Also, they are made in America. We had two chows and two cats, and had tons of fur, and it worked great at picking it all up.

     

    I really want another one, but don't have the funds right now. We now have tile floor, and I probably would need the canister instead of the upright. From what I understand, canisters work better on tile or hardwood floors. Uprights work better on carpet.

  16. There is nothing in that passage to suggest that it is a cultural consideration. Paul appeals to an analogy between Christ and the church, an eternal relationship, so it's more reasonable to conclude that in fact it is an eternal blueprint for a good marriage. The only thing that makes anyone think it shouldn't be followed today, from all that I have read and heard, is that people today simply don't *like* it. It doesn't tickle our ears, or tell us what we want to hear about men and women and how God has designed us to function together in marriage. That is a very bad reason for dismissing truth from God's Word.

     

    What if a husband physically or emotionally abuses his wife? Should she submit to that?

     

    I don't think anyone can follow that passage literally, unless they have a husband that treats them fairly. Even then, I doubt they follow it literally 100% of the time.

     

    It's not anyone's responsibility to make the Bible or Christianity more palatable by skipping parts that don't appeal to some people. God's Word stands for itself, and I would not presume and disrespect God and His Word by suggesting that I can leave out parts or write them off to make someone else like Christianity better-- or to make myself happy, either. There are parts of the Bible that are obviously meant to be figurative. There are other parts that are clearly meant for a specific people or time-- but the Bible itself makes it clear which those parts are-- this section in Ephesians does not. Paul appeals to the relationship between Christ and the church-- when that changes, so will God's plan for marriage (it never will, because it is eternal).

     

    I just think it would be much more honest for people to come right out and admit, "I think people can choose for themselves which parts of the Bible they want to follow. I don't like what the Bible teaches about women submitting to their husbands, so I choose to not believe that part." At least that would make their position clear, and avoid a lot of discussion about what the verses actually mean, because it wouldn't make any difference to those with that viewpoint anyway.

     

    Okay, I'll say it. I don't take Paul literally, and do not choose to follow that part.

     

    Boy, IME these in the middle positions can be tough. You have both the atheists and the fundamentalists coming after you.

  17. I use Sonlight and get most of my books from Paperback Swap. You can sometimes get curriculum from there. I put stuff on my wish list, and eventually it comes up.

     

    You do need to have books to post for swapping, and have the funds to mail them media mail. It usually works out to $2-$3 per book.

     

    I also go to used curriculum sales in the summer. Thrift stores are another good place to find used curriculum, workbooks or literature books.

     

    We also use the library. My dd likes to get science books there.

  18. My child is visual, and MM was too abstract. Singapore worked better in the earlier years, as it has pictures and less problems on each page. Now that she's older (10 1/2), MM is a better fit.

     

    MM teaches the why behind the concept, but it wasn't always the way she learned best. She is independent, and liked to figure out the why on her own, plus she is a perfectionist and shuts down from mistakes. However, I found a way to do it that works with her. I let her use a calculator. After doing a few problems, the concept clicks for her and she is able to do it without the calculator. The calculator eliminates the stress of making a mistake. Once the stress is eliminated, the concept clicks.

     

    She learns best from word problems, and we like the word problems in MM. They relate to real life, and don't incorporate problems you'd never solve normally.

     

     

    [Disclaimer: I take a living math approach, and probably do things differently than most around here.]

  19. I am a relaxed, eclectic homeschooler. I do short times of traditional schooling, and then dd has lots of time to pursue her own interests.

     

    I have to say that this thread has been an eye opener, wrt the unparenting aspects. I have an unschooler friend, who does not enforce boundaries with her children, especially when toddlers. When they are older, she can't understand why they are so hard to deal with.

     

    This also reminds me of the Attachment Parenting Philosophy. AP, as with unschooling, does include having boundaries. I used AP with my dd, however I definitely taught her to respect others. However, I think parents who don't want to enforce boundaries are attracted to AP groups (another friend calls it Absent Parenting, lol). Later, these parents move into unschooling groups. This is how it worked with my friend that I mentioned in the above paragraph.

     

    It gives both movements a bad name to people outside of them. Neither is really about letting kids run amok, but is about trying to meet their needs in a way outside of the traditional. Unfortunately, I think the good is getting lost in the bad.

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