So we had our dd eval/assessment done...LiPS, now what?

[momsuz123]

So, the neuropsych "jerk" was better, he was actually nice. DD has no memory issues, etc. SLP picked up definitive problems with language, phonemes, etc. Early warning signs also of dyslexia and maybe a mild APD (although they said in her case it would be "little apd".) They said she does a good job of hiding it, smiling cute, etc. Comes across as a shy child, when actually not understanding the "language" of all conversation. They want me to look into LiPS. I don't have that in my area, but how do I go about buying it or even knowing what of it to buy. I am doing AAS with her right now, but I get the feeling they want much more phoneme work.

Any thoughts, advice, ideas would be helpful? I am new at this area. They want me to have her work with a SLP that specializes in the language aspect of things (the one we saw does), and get her into a reading program with a specialist. That I have to look into still.

By the way, she is reading at grade level right now, so not "behind" yet. But definitely not comprehending what she is reading, at all. Although, since she is trying to memorize her way through reading, they feel this will catch up with her eventually and cause a lot of trouble. They emphasized how happy they are we/they caught this "early". In ps, they just blew everything off on her ear problems. But they said there is now way her test results can be "blown off" due to ear infections, etc. Kind of feel some relief that she can get some help, and soon, and not be lost in this world so much. Kind of feel a little overwhelmed too.

[merry gardens]

Oh good, I'm glad you had a better experience with your dd's neuro-psych. :)

 

Some slp's are trained in LiPS, so maybe that's something you can ask any slp you plan to work with about. Or did they want the slp to focus on a different area while you worked with LiPS at home? Or did they want you to find a reading specialist trained in LiPS?

 

Lindamood-Bell offers training classes. It's possible to do LiPS without their formal training, but if you are looking for a reading tutor to teach LiPS, you might ask if they've had the training. Slp's should be familiar with the type of things LiPS teaches, even if they aren't fomally trained by LMB.

 

Anyway, you can buy LiPS from the publisher, Gander Publishing http://www.ganderpublishing.com/LiPS.html Other places sell it too. LMB recently updated the program. You might be able to find some bargains on the older versions, (but if you pay full price from a different source, at least be aware there's a newer version.)

 

If you are thinking about doing LiPS at home with her, before you invest in any materials, I suggest you check your own phonemic awareness skills. The Barton website http://bartonreading.com/tutors.html has a simple tutor screening for the Barton program, and if you can't pass that, then you'd probably have a very hard time teaching LiPS. (fyi, the early levels of Barton overlap a lot with the later stages of LiPS.)

 

As to reading at grade level but not comprehending, was that going to be addressed by the slp or is that what they wanted the reading specialist to do? And did your neuro-psych or the others have any specific suggestions of people who they consider reading specialists to help you with all of this?

 

From your other posts, it doesn't sound like your neuro-psych is fully aware of the lengths that some homeschooling parents go to for their ld children. I have a feeling that he's going to find out. :)

[momsuz123]

Thanks Merry Gardens. Honestly, I think the only reason they mentioned a reading specialist is because I homeschool. Could be wrong here, but that is the impression I got, especially because in the evaluations they commented how teaching my dd to read is going to get tricky. Plus, the place they recommended is a college that has a literacy program that is student run. I went to their website and it mentioned the kids work in groups of 3 to learn to read. This is not a good set up as far as I am concerned for my dd. Could be too distracting for her, etc. The SLP is not formally trained in LiPS, but said she is going to a weekend course on it. My thought, is start the LiPS at home maybe, and see the SLP as soon as her schedule allows. She plans on focusing on more of the language issues / phonemic awareness issues (I think) I am thinking of holding off on the reading specialist for now. My good friend's mom is a reading specialist - I think going a more private route would be a better idea anyways. I am so confused on what material to buy with LiPS.

[siloam]

So, the neuropsych "jerk" was better, he was actually nice. DD has no memory issues, etc. SLP picked up definitive problems with language, phonemes, etc. Early warning signs also of dyslexia and maybe a mild APD (although they said in her case it would be "little apd".) They said she does a good job of hiding it, smiling cute, etc. Comes across as a shy child, when actually not understanding the "language" of all conversation. They want me to look into LiPS. I don't have that in my area, but how do I go about buying it or even knowing what of it to buy. I am doing AAS with her right now, but I get the feeling they want much more phoneme work.

Any thoughts, advice, ideas would be helpful? I am new at this area. They want me to have her work with a SLP that specializes in the language aspect of things (the one we saw does), and get her into a reading program with a specialist. That I have to look into still.

By the way, she is reading at grade level right now, so not "behind" yet. But definitely not comprehending what she is reading, at all. Although, since she is trying to memorize her way through reading, they feel this will catch up with her eventually and cause a lot of trouble. They emphasized how happy they are we/they caught this "early". In ps, they just blew everything off on her ear problems. But they said there is now way her test results can be "blown off" due to ear infections, etc. Kind of feel some relief that she can get some help, and soon, and not be lost in this world so much. Kind of feel a little overwhelmed too.

 

With LiPS I used mostly the manual, the playing cards, the mouth pictures and the bingo game.

 

It isn't difficult to use. Though once you get through the first introduction of sounds I prefer to go to Barton level 1, because it also includes hand movements that made things click for my ds, that LiPS did not.

 

AAS is also good, but I have to modify it a lot.

 

Heather

[merry gardens]

With LiPS I used mostly the manual, the playing cards, the mouth pictures and the bingo game.

 

It isn't difficult to use. Though once you get through the first introduction of sounds I prefer to go to Barton level 1, because it also includes hand movements that made things click for my ds, that LiPS did not.

 

AAS is also good, but I have to modify it a lot.

 

Heather

I've done things very similar to Heather. I didn't buy the whole set either. Basically, you really the manual and some form of the mouth pictures; the other things can be created with materials from home if you are doing this on a budget. I bought the manual, the clings with the mouth pictures, the felts (which could easily be made at home, but their felt colors are pretty) and a few other supplies from Gander. I got their vowel training dvd, because my son struggled significantly with vowel confusion I wanted to make sure I knew what I was doing for that. They have a new item called a "Lipstick"--I just love that name!--with electronic files that allow you to produce some of the materials on a printer. I don't remember if it includes an electronic file of their manual or not, but it might be worth checking out.