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What I agree that I do learn a lot educating my own children, that knowledge will not land me a job should I need one!
That little piece of paper that says I am certified to work in my field of choice does!
Dawn
I don't get this response other than as an indication that you weren't very careful in reading, or don't really care what I said in the post you were theoretically responding to...
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2nd Corinthians 12:9, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness."
WONDERFUL THREAD!
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Yes, but... given that you think the men should run the country, doesn't it make sense that the women who are educating the men should be educated themselves?
Frankly, I've gotten a better education from homeschooling my children than I did in four years of college. Like the title of the board... I'm a firm believer in 'self-education.'
Blessings,
Debbie
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I've been pondering my "bean dip" plan this morning and I realized something: Isn't passing the bean dip really for people who just don't (or won't) get it? I love my friends, so I might have to change my comment to "Oh, we think it's best for our dd; so we are going to have to agree to disagree on this!" I don't think either of them would push it if I made that clear.
Pass the bean dip? That's really interesting - I've never heard that one before!
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First and foremost, I want my daughter prepared to be a wife and a stay-at-home (hopefully homeschooling :001_smile:) mom. Were I to be able to look into the future and see that being the case, I might not spend the money for college either, at least not more than a 2 year community college.
However, I can't look into the future, and no matter how well I prepare my daughter for the life I hope she has, it takes two to get married, and there are no guarantees of it. So I feel quite responsible to make sure that my daughter can support herself well in case she: 1) doesn't get married; 2) is widowed young, especially if she is left with children to support; 3) other unforeseen circumstance.
I'm certainly not suggesting you engage your friends in the discussion, but I would be interested in what they consider adequate preparation for the scenario #1, and especially #2, above.
Blessings,
Debbie
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both scholarship interviews are all day affairs in a different state. So, yes, we are going with him. They're also both schools I've never been to, so both my husband and I want to go along.
For a local school, I think it would depend on where it was. I'm pretty sure my son would want me to go with him if it were his first time driving to a completely unfamiliar area.
Debbie
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:svengo:
Innocently and unpreparedly I drop in to take a look... and I'm blindsided! Oh my goodness, I am so not ready to think about planning this sort of thing, but I guess I have to!
(The first time I was blindsided was in September when someone started a 2011 college acceptance thread and we still hadn't gotten serious about figuring out which colleges to apply to...)
I guess you guys are good for me, but man!
I guess for now I'll just be... :bigear:
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You may want to search for the thread, but here are some of the highlights I remember (in no particular order.)
She should prepare for the interview by making sure that she is knowledgeable about the school and the department in which she will major. Then, for example, the answer to 'Why do you want to go this school?' can be backed up with, "Dr. So-and-so's research/award/??? in this area blah blah blah...."
Similarly, she should have some questions prepared in advance -- not things that are easily answered from a quick perusal of the website. The point of these two is to show a high level of interest in the school.
One question which might come up, and a topic the student needs to think about it advance is: Beyond what the student wants from the school, what can the student contribute to the school?
Finally, if the student wants to go all out to impress them, wear something with the school's colors.
I also searched for other threads, almost all of which were on admissions interviews rather than scholarship interviews, but I figured the information would also be useful, so I recommend doing that, too.
We're halfway through the process... he had the 'practice' version at a school we were less interested in (it was not a good fit for him and they must have recognized it as well. We were surprised at the low award he received) The scholarship competition day for one of his top choice schools is in two weeks.
I do think it will be very good that she has a lower choice school to practice at. My son will be much more comfortable next time because of having done it once already.
Blessings,
Debbie
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and4judge - DS#1 Furman University (attending), Sewanee - University of the South (accepted), Univerity of Alabama (accepted), University of Alabama in Birmingham (accepted), Birmingham- Southern College (accepted)
AngieW in Texas - dd - University of Texas at Dallas (accepted) - the only school that had the program she wanted
Blue Hen - ds - University of Delaware, Case Western Reserve, CO School of Mines, Drexel (PA), Lehigh(PA), Rose-Hulman, Tulane, RPI (NY), Stony Brook University --- all acceptances.
Brigid in NC - ds - accepted @ Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, North Carolina State (attending)
CherylG's ds-UCLA, graduated, UCSB, UCSD, Westmont, all accepted. UMD-attending for master's in engineering.
CherylG's dd-SBCC school of nursing-graduated.
CindyMarsch's dd#1 - Grove City College - attending
CindyMarsch's ds - Grove City College - attending
CindyMarsch's dd#2 - Grove City College, Gordon College, Union University - all accepted, she's choosing UU
Creekland's ds - Covenant College - attending fall 2010, Union University, Calvin College - acceptances
Deb in NZ's dd - Bay of Plenty Polytechnic (begin Feb 2010)
dkholland- ds - Covenant College (will attend in fall), Patrick Henry College (accepted) Grove City College (accepted)
FloridaLisa -- ds1: accepted to: University of Florida, Florida State University (attending)
Grace is Sufficient - Son: accepted to Baldwin Wallace College, Eastern Michigan University, Geneva College, Northern Kentucky University, University of Akron. Not attending Eastern Michigan, otherwise don't know yet... depends on financial aid.
Gwen in VA -- Washington & Lee (attending); acceptances from U Chicago, U Pitt, U Dallas, U Delaware, Hillsddale, UVA, William & Mary, College of Wooster, Case Western
Kate in FL-ds-Cornell University (accepted Early Decision so all other apps had to be withdrawn)
Kathy in Richmond - ds - MIT (attending), also accepted at Caltech, Carnegie Mellon, U Michigan, and UVA.
Kathy in Richmond - dd - accepted at Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, U Chicago, William & Mary, and wait-listed at Swarthmore
Katia - ds- Ellsworth Community College (AA Computer Science) , Anderson University-attended , University of Northern Iowa (BA Computer Science), Kansai Gaidai University, Kyoto, Japan-attended
Katia - dd#1- Hilldale College-attending , accepted at: Luther College, Ball State University, University of Northern Iowa, Oberlin College Conservatory of Music
Katia- dd#2 - applying to: Hillsdale College , Warner University (accepted)
Lady Lorna - dd accepted at Fordham University, Hillsdale College, The King's College, Middlebury College, St John's College, Thomas More College of Liberal Arts, Thomas Aquinas College, Trinity College. Waitlisted The University of Chicago. Still waiting to hear from Columbia University, Harvard University, Princeton University, Yale University
LaJuana - dd#1 University of Dallas - graduated Summa cum Laude. Also accepted to Hillsdale.
LaJuana - ds#1 University of Dallas - graduated Summa cum Laude. Also accepted to Hillsdale. Attending Westminster Theological Seminary (MDiv).
LaJuana dd#2 Attending Oklahoma City University Bass School of Music (Musical Theatre and Vocal Performance). Also accepted at Samford University (AL), Whitworth University (WA), George Fox University (OR), Covenant College (GA), Houghton College (NY), Oklahoma Christian University.
LaJuana ds#2 Attending Whitworth University. Also accepted at University of Dallas.
(Except for dd majoring in MT and VP, my dc knew where they wanted to go, applied to two schools only, and were accepted at both.)
Laughing Lioness - DS -Boyce College (KY) attending. Accepted to Augustana College (SD) and St. Mary's School of Nursing (SD).
Lisa in TN's dd - Vanderbilt University - attending. Also accepted to Hillsdale College, Belmont University, University of Memphis.
Lisa in TN's ds - Washington University in St. Louis - attending. Also accepted to the University of Pennsylvania, Duke University, Case Western Reserve University, University of Alabama, University of Tennessee.
Liza Q's dd - Saint Francis College - attending. Kings College, St. John's University, Brooklyn College - accepted
Luann in ID ds1 and ds2 - LeTourneau University - attending (They both knew they wanted to go there, so this is the only place they applied.)
Mandy in TN-- ds Berea College (attending beginning in Aug)
Margaret in CO--dd accepted to Western State College for dual credit, accepted to Hillsdale College, graduated, accepted to CU Boulder School of Music, finishing Master's
Margaret in CO--dd accepted to Western State College for dual credit, accepted to USNA, attending finishing Firstie Year, accepted to flight school, acceptances: Hillsdale College, USAFA, USCGA, ERAU (on NROTC), School of Mines
Margaret in CO--dd accepted to Western State College for dual credit
I'm going to stick my should-have-been-son-in-law (killed last spring), accepted to Hillsdale College, transferred to WVU, graduated, accepted to Toledo Medical College.
Mary in GA ds: Clayton State University (attended & transferred) Georgia Tech (attending)
Michelle in GA ds- University of Georgia (accepted); Berry College (accepted); Georgia Tech (currently attending)
Moira in MA dd -- Acceptances at Dalhousie U (Nova Scotia), McGill U (Montreal)
Mommyfaithe's dd #1 (accepted College of St. Rose (NY) attended Sage College Albany, NY Graduated Summa Cum Laude
Mommyfaithe's dd#2 Attending Russell Sage College. Accepted SUNY New
Paltz, SUNY Albany, waiting to hear from Simmons College in Boston Mass.
MSPolly's dd- Acceptances at Covenant(TN), Union U(TN), U of MS, Belhaven U(MS) - ATTENDING Collaborative Piano/Pedagogy major WAHOO!
Ms. Riding Hood ds1- MIT (attending), Texas A&M, Rose-Hulman, Purdue
Musicmom –ds- accepted at Carnegie Mellon (attending fall 2010), Cornell, University of Minnesota—Twin Cities Honors Program
Newbie -dd- Accepted Chatham University(PA), Carlow University(PA), Mills College
nrg - ds#1: attending BYU, accepted at Cal Tech, Stanford
ds#2: attending UC Santa Cruz, accepted BYU
ds#3: junior in hs
Osmosis Mom Dd 1, Wellesley College (attending), accepted to Merrimack College, BU, Simmons, Emmanuel College
Ruth in NC ds accepted St John in NM, Oberlin w/scholarship, Colorado College, Boston U, will attend UNC Chapel Hill, offered waitlist at Vanderbilt and Emory
Ruth in NC dd accepted NC State, UNC Asheville, Appalachian State and Earlham w/scholarship, on Oberlin waitlist. Still deciding.
Sharon in MD's ds-Drexel University -attending; UMBC-Meyerhoff program, UMD-College Park-College of Engineering, Messiah College- acceptances
Spock - ds – accepted at Liberty University (plans to transfer after attending CC for a year)
Susann-dd-Rose-Hulman, Purdue, University of Evansville, Trine, Taylor, Cedarville-acceptances
Susie-Knits ds1 - Valparaiso (attending), Rose-Hulman, U of Evansville, TN Tech - acceptances
TransientChris's DS- George Mason U,attending; Hillsdale College- attended, Abilene Christian, Hampden-Sydney, St. Olaf- accepted
Valerie(TX) - ds UT Arlington attended
Valerie(TX) - dd accepted Biola (CA), Messiah (PA), Belhaven (MS), Mary Baldwin College (VA), UTA (TX), Hardin-Simmons (TX), Univ. of Mary Hardin-Baylor (TX), and Ouachita (AR). ATTENDING--Hardin-Simmons
Outtamyshell - BYU Provo
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I'm not familiar with Stobaugh's history. I did not like his literature program, an opinion which is shared by others, but not all, on this board. I definitely prefer Notgrass. I thought the American history was excellent. I do not agree, however, that it's worth three credits. I might give half a credit for the Bible study, though it might need beefing up. We didn't do the Bible part. It gets a credit in history, but while the literature selections are good, there isn't much actual literary analysis, a skill that it's important for high schoolers to acquire.
HTH
Debbie
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We used THC w/Trig. We didn't end up even trying LOF calculus. The Home Companion provided all the answers, but I think I remember that a significant percentage just were answers, not solutions. Am I misremembering?
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Hi, Stephanie
I had intended to use LOF calculus, but after our experience with LOF Trig we chose to go with MUS, which we had used in younger grades. We found that the instruction in MUS is a little clearer and more comprehensive, and having the worked out solutions instead of just the answers was helpful. LOF had too few worked out solutions for us. He needed additional help with LOF's Trig more often than he has with MUS Calculus.
HTH
Debbie
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For both of mine, I just went to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and got them a state ID. It was quite easy, though I guess that depends on what state you live in...
It was also good because my daughter went by plane to visit her grandparents and having the ID made security easier as a 15 year old flying alone.
Debbie
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I'm sorry to hear that. Is working for a semester or two and saving up to return an option? I've thought my son might have to go that route later on. He's only a senior so we don't know where he's going or what the scholarship picture is, but loans are not an option for us.
I don't know if getting 're-accepted' at Moody after taking time off to work would be an issue for your son, though.
Hugs,
Debbie
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I could estimate but it won't even be close... I don't have W2s, interest statements, anything. I don't see how they can seriously request, let alone require FAFSAs to be done today.
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Today????
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Anyone else watch this with a 17 year old son who's heading off to college next year? I had to grab for the tissues at the scene where Andy & his mom are standing in his cleaned out, empty room...
(I know it's been out for ages, but we just got around to getting the video tonight.)
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I think this sounds the same as the 'mid year reports' I keep hearing about. I don't understand why you aren't sending to to schools your student has already been admitted to, however. I thought they were supposed to go to everyone -- either to confirm admissions or at least be part of the merit aid info...
:bigear:
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I really did NOT intend to re-open, or take a side on the recurring debate about 'rigor.'
I DID intend to share some of my personal situation and give reasons why in certain cases, I specifically chose courses that were 'below' my kids level.
That's why I used the term 'dumbed down.' My son got a 35 on the ACT English portion. (Noticeably better than he did in math/science, nonetheless, he wants to go into computers.) Therefore, he's certainly capable of doing a really rigorous, challenging English course this year. But he's got too much else on his plate, and I wanted him to focus on Calculus, Electronics, and Computer Networking, so he has the easiest English I could find. He probably spends about 10-15 minutes on it most days.
I allowed my daughter (very bright, but not a hard worker) as I said before, to use the Famous Men books for a class because she loves it. I was pleasantly surprised at the result. She did not work hard enough for it to be high school level by most people's considerations, and the text is not high school level, but to this day, she knows more about Greeks and Romans than most people. I found it interesting that a book with much less information was retained so well -- partly because it wasn't an overload of info, and partly because it was done more in the 'delight-directed' style of education.
I shared these because I thought it was interesting to consider, as home educators, the whys and whens of choosing courses that are less challenging. Please don't judge each other's educational methods; please don't be quick to feel judged. God gave us the kids we're supposed to raise. He trusts us with them; we can trust ourselves and each other with them, too.
Debbie
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My son just had an interview - one professor, one student - and an essay. There were two questions, of which he chose one. None of the questions were particularly challenging, just get to know you type questions.
Question 1 (approximately) You are making the laws in a new country. Describe two laws you would make in the areas of taxation, healthcare, and/or one or two other areas. And some thing was added about not expecting to be in the same social or financial status in the new country.
(He chose this question -- his answer showed his innate conservatism (law 1: flat tax rate, not progressive; law 2: no dangerous health procedures allowed.) I suspect it won't work in his favor in a school that seems obsessed with race and gender issues, but we'll find out in early January.)
Question 2: You have died. Fortunately, you get to come back to life, but you have to choose what country other than the US to live in. What country would you choose, keeping in mind that you will not necessarily be the same race, gender, religion, social/financial status in your new life.
In January, he'll have another one... at a much smaller school that is higher on the list. I think it will be different. I'll try to remember to post about it, especially if it's significantly different.
HTH
Debbie
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have the student who will use the calculator spend some time with whatever you would use as a user's manual. See if he can understand and learn from it without much additional explanation and help.
I found that those things can be tough to figure out how to use and a manual that actually helps your student learn how to use it is pretty important.
Blessings,
Debbie
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I am so glad to hear that, Karen.
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I've got an 11th grader and a 12th grader. Both have a mix of outsourced classes and 'truly homeschooled' classes.
Last year, I let my daughter take the class she wanted to take, using the curriculum she wanted. High school level? Nope. Effective? I think so. Let me explain. I used to read the Famous Men books to them aloud -- way back in elementary school. She loved them, and wanted to do them again. I remember being impressed with certain aspects of them, plus I know that what she loves, she learns. So I gave her a half credit in the 2nd semester of 10th grade for reading Famous Men of Greece and Famous Men of Rome, writing a paper on one of the people in the chapters, and taking two tests.
It wasn't impressive, but she learned it and remembers it much more that she would have using some fat textbook with tons of detailed and frankly, not very important, information.
So, reason 1: Sometimes a lighter course with less material crammed down their throats will result in significantly more learning.
Second case: At the end of his sophomore year, my son decided to take a 2-year, 3.5 credit (each year) class at our local career center in computer networking. I hadn't planned on that, and to all of a sudden have 7 credits 'taken away from me' for his last two years in high school messed with my 4 year plan dramatically. Since he'd only ever taken a couple of online courses before, I added the bare minimum to his 11th grade schedule: Precalc, physics, British lit, and PE.
Then, as we were facing 12th grade, he was continuing the class, but had only 2 credits of social studies, no art of any kind, etc. He would take calculus and electronics, but still needed credits in social studies, English, and some kind of art. I spent the summer looking for the easiest courses I could find for those three, knowing that his other classes would be hard and time consuming, and college applications were coming, etc.
So reason 2: If a student is taking a heavy load of courses that will matter much more to their future, it might make sense to make the less important courses easier on them.
Finally, reason 3: I've seen enough of what the public schools have produced -- even schools with this so called 'excellent' rating, that I don't feel in the slightest bit guilty!
Just thought I'd share some thoughts from the practical as opposed to theoretical end of the discussion....
Debbie
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I've searched the boards and found a number of very helpful threads about college interviews -- most of them were referring to admissions interviews.
I wonder if anyone has any experiences with an interview as part of some kind of scholarship competition.
Two of the five schools my son has applied to have these events: one is this Saturday and one is in January. The event includes an essay and an interview, and I'm not sure what else.
We've been preparing based on the information I was able to find, but I'd love to hear more from anyone who has been part of something like this.
Thanks!
Debbie
So...What About the FAFSA Now??
in The College Board
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However, you don't need to file your tax return before you can fill out FAFSA, you just need to have the return filled out. So I'm waiting :toetap05: for a W2 and then I'll fill out the relevant part of the 1040 and then be able to do our FAFSA. I think it should be in the next few days/week.
Debbie