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  1. I'm looking for a secular writing program to use after WT... I know the authors of CW are Christian, but I can't tell from the sample pages how secular the content of the program is or is not (i.e., copywork from the Bible, etc.).

     

    Any users out there that can let me know?

    Thanks!

  2. I'm don't follow Eat to Live per se, but I'm strict veg with celiac so when I read the book I realized I basically eat that way already. It sounds like your kids are great eaters and are eating a healthy balanced diet - I'm not sure what your concern is (?)... is it the butter/oil on the veggies? I personally don't use butter, I do use olive oil and flax seed oil on veggies and salads - especially for my kids (also all vegetarian). His way is one way, but you have to do what works for you, imho.... there are so many different approaches. But if you break it down and look at what almost every approach has in common it sounds like you're doing it - eat fresh, whole foods, mostly fruits and veggies, limit animal products. =) hth.

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    Cons:

    -doesn't follow the exact order of SOTW, there is flipping back and forth through chapters.

    -it doesn't cover all the chapters in SOTW, I felt my children were missing out

    -couldn't find all the info. sometimes to have the children fill in the maps for the children

    -my children don't like to color that often, so their notebooks are quite empty of color

    -too expensive

     

    I'm not using it this year because it is simply too expensive and I don't want the children to have too much extra writing.

     

    Those were my exact thoughts w/o having seen it in person. It does look great - but not all of mine like to color that much. And it seems like a lot more writing and we do so much writing. Thank you!! I'll hold off for this year and look for this IRL vs. online at a fair next year...

  4. This is a general plan for our upcoming year. Naturally not everything will be done every day (e.g., science is only twice a week). Thanks for looking and I welcome and thoughts or feedback! :bigear:

     

    PS - I made the font small b/c it's a long list (given that there are four children), but it's also on my blog if you need a bigger font...)

     

    4th Grader

     

    Math Mammoth (Multiplication 1, Division 1 & 4th complete)

    Writing Tales (when finished we'll do Igniting Your Writing)

    Journal writing - although they write in their journals whenever they want, once a week I do a structured write

    Exercises in English (grammar) - notebook the rules

    Spelling - notebook any mistakes from own work

    Vocabulary - notebook words from reading that are new (required to do 3 per week)

    English from the Roots Up (**after much research, I've decided to drop Latin as a language until about 7th grade and use this in the meantime)

    McGuffey's 4 (even though she's a great reader, I think a daily dose of oral reading is helpful) - narration if wanted

    Literature and Reading - I pull most of her lit. books from the time period we're studying, but not all; some are from other reading lists - I try to get a variety; she then notebooks her assigned book (additional books don't have to be notebooked) and we discuss; I also read a variety of books to the girls and this is part of the literature study

     

    I combine this child with the next in history & science:

    Story of the World 3 & Usborne IL Encyclopedia- we do narration & drawing, mapwork, a hands-on project, extra reading

    REAL Science

    Structured nature study once per week

    I combine all four girls in Art and Music (at their own levels):

    Art - Great Artists (project and notebook page for each artist - we'll cover 20 -30 this year) plus we sketch a ton for the notebooking pages

    Music - Monthly composer study that I pull together (I try to keep it simple - read the bio one week, listen to the music, draw/write a reaction to a piece, learn about a key instrument from the time, etc.) & Piano lessons

    2nd/3rd Grader

    Math Mammoth

    Explode the Code (this year will be books 6, 7 and 8)

    finish Phonics Pathways (with occassional copywork)

    Daily oral reading from McGuffey's and Aesop's Fables (I alternate) - notebook narration 1- 2 times per week

    Spelling - from her own mistakes (same as above) - no formal vocabulary

    First Language Lessons

    Handwriting Without Tears - cursive

    Writing program - undecided - still not sure if we'll do formal writing this year or hold off; leaning towards holding off

    Journal writing - same as above

    Literature / reading - same as above but on her own reading level

    History -Story of the World 3 - same as above

    Science - REAL Science - same as above

    Art - same as above

    Music - same as above except violin lessons

    1st Grader

    Math Mammoth

    Explode the Code (books 3, 4, 5)

    Phonics Pathways (with copywork)

    Daily oral reading from McGuffey's and Aesop's Fables (same as above - though the older child is farther along)

    Handwriting Without Tears - continue printing

    First Language Lessons

    Spelling - same as above

    no formal writing program

    Journal writing - same as above

    Reading & Literature - books she can read from history, easy chapter books, and the books I read aloud as part of our literature study - she can notebook 1 - 2 books per week (1 is required) at her own level

     

    I combine the younger two for History and Science:

    History - Story of the World 1 & Usborne encyclopedia - do narration/drawing, mapwork, coloring and hands-on project

    Science - living books, I have several books of easy experiments - we will try to do a notebook page or two a week

    Nature study as above

     

    Art- as above

    Music - as above with piano lessons

     

    Kinder

     

    No formal math - work with real life math - notebook key ideas

    Explode the Code (1, 2, 2 1/2 - as far as she gets - she's not a seatwork kinda gal but she likes to 'do school, too')

    Oral Reading from McGuffey's and lots and lots and LOTS of readers - she loves this

    Hooked on Phonics (she wants this; it's not my 'usual' - it was a gift so we'll give it a go)

    Handwriting without Tears

    Literature & Reading - basically the same as the 1st grader, but at her own level and participate in literature studies as she can/wants

    History - as above

    Science - as above

    Art - as above

    Music - as above, no formal lessons - I will teach her the basics of the recorder if she wants/has interest

  5. The list looks great to me although I'm not familiar with a couple of those.

     

    I'm secular/liberal, and it would be hard to offend me with any book, unless you were clearly trying to mock my beliefs or lifestyle. I think you're fine.

     

    :iagree: I'm secular/liberal and those books look nice. It's nice that you take her beliefs into consideration - lots of the gift books we got at first were My First Book of Prayers, etc., and even that didn't offend me... Your list looks great!

  6. I'm looking for ideas for 2nd grade "grammar." I don't want anything workbooky (I use Exercises in English for my oldest and it's a good fit, but level C would be too much for my 2nd grader.) I'm looking for something extremely low cost or free - maybe notebooking?

     

    any ideas???

    TIA!

  7. My girls were all very early readers. But I think the phonics is key for spelling down the line. What I did (and will do this year) is Explode the Code - we do the written b/c there isn't much writing and I think it helps them remember, but the online looks good, too. I coupled that with Phonics Pathways. I just skipped ahead to where it gets "meaty" and did a page a day (no copywork until they were better at writing). Then we did "challenge" reading to put their phonics skills to the test. I had them read a very short passage from a harder book than what they were used to. They really had to put their phonics to work to sound out new words, etc. I think doing this immediately after PP was the best thing for us. I saw dramatic improvements every time.

     

    This is worked great for me for three of my girls. My last little one is hyperactive so it'll be interesting to see how she does with ETC... I may be utilizing that Co-op online buy!

  8. Does anyone else find there is a line being drawn between "stay home homeschoolers" and "outside activities homeschooler"?

     

    I know what you mean. I've run into this. There hasn't been directly 'mean' commentary, but stuff like, "Wow! You're soooo busy. We just like to stay at home and have lots of quality family time." There's nothing negative in that, but of course I feel like we miss out on family dinner too often b/c of our swim team practice so I take their comments to mean "You're not spending enough quality time together," which isn't what was really said... Maybe the folks giving negative comments to you deep down wish they, too, could afford (either timewise or monetarily) to do the same thing? Not that that's all that helpful - just a thought. :)

  9. I agree about skipping the guide - you can easily get maps and notebooking pages for free or very little money (I just got a bunch from history scribe and geo scribe - the geography was $4.50 for 100s of pages and you can use them for years and years).

    hth!

  10. I was just having the same debate over vol. 3 pages...

    This is what I figured out - maybe it will be helpful. I changed the numbers to fit the 125 pages of Vol. 1.

     

    Without shipping, the extra pages are $11.95. There are 125 pages. That's about 10 cents per page (rounding up from .096).

     

    My Staples and Kinkos both charge 5 cents per page.

     

    My printer/copier costs me 3 cents per page (Sharp AL-1641CS) and I'm guessing most people end up paying about this. We use recycled paper, which is a bit more so maybe with std. paper it's 2 cents. With pre-punched paper it was 4 cents. Still less. And since I don't copy every single page (as a previous poster noted) I am saving even more. I probably only copy about 1/2 to 2/3 of the student pages...

     

    This doesn't include shipping or tax, but it gives a good enough idea. I decided that it was worth the savings to make the copies myself as annoying as I find it. It really doesn't take me as long as I feel it does. It's just boring busy work.

    HTH!!

  11. We started trying to add in all the books, etc., and it got to be too much. We had too much other reading to do in other subject areas and with four kids... I just couldn't swing it every time. I'm glad I didn't spend a lot of money (I had initially put all the books I wanted into my Amazon cart and then realized how expensive it would be so I didn't place the order.)

     

    So I changed it up.

     

    I have lots of science books (I always hit the used sale at the library) so I ended up grouping them by topic. I would then look to see if we had one (or more) on the topic and put it out on our display shelf; the kids read it when/if they were interested. They have a notebook where they write down anything out of books they read that interests them (think The Common Place Book from the Lemoniny Snicketts stories) and this seemed to work well. It took the pressure off of "having" to include them. I think that we actually read more books this way. We also looked things up online if they were interested in the topic.

     

    HTH

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