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  1. I have enjoyed reading all of the posts shared today. I generally just read- most of the time everything I am thinking someone else has already said. I am not a troll, just a nurse and homeschool mom from Alabama. I have to travel at least 4 miles to even get to a bridge from my house in the woods at the end of a long dirt road.

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  2. How many is many, what kind of majority? How about the immigrants who are ESL and going to ESL classes after work, many are employed as housekeeping staff.

    What kind of higher paying jobs? An attorney general, surgeons, CEOs?

     

    You may not mean it but it does sound similar to people who say girls are bad at math.

    I mean a lot of people can't pass nursing school, can't earn an engineering degree, don't have the ability to work in a high tech field. I don't know what percentage of the population that includes but I know they exist. Surgeon, lawyer, CEO- not even on my radar.

    I don't see how stating some people aren't very smart and can't work at higher paying jobs is even remotely the same as girls are bad at math. I don't mean they are morons - I mean they aren't good with numbers, spelling, written communication, organizing ideas, etc. I don't understand why it strikes such a nerve here for someone to say everyone isn't capable of these things. What are these great careers that people who, for lack of a better term, aren't very smart pursue in your area? Here, the ones with a connection work in a mine or steel plant. They earn a good income and have good benefits. Those jobs are very limited though.

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  3. I think people are misinterpreting your posts -- or else I am!

     

    I was thinking you were saying that there are people out there at all different intellectual levels, and because of that, not everyone has the same capabilities in terms of the types of jobs they are able to do or the skills they are able to learn.

     

    I didn't think you were trying to be derogatory.

    Thank you.
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  4. She did say, "You worked with mainly people whose IQ was similar to yours at your gas station and group home jobs?"

     

    I think she fully expected that everyone else I worked with at those places was a bumbling idiot. Why say that, otherwise?

     

    I don't think I'm misinterpreting anything.

    No, I am not the one who said people with a lower IQ than yours are bumbling idiots.

    I do find it completely out of my realm of experience that there are areas where the gas stations and group homes are manned by mainly people with "highly gifted" level IQs.

  5. So there is nowhere else people work these jobs forever? Everywhere else the fries are made by someone qualified to run a business or a bank? No CNAs in all of your local nursing homes who really wanted to make it in nursing school but couldn't? They are all people who particularly love changing adult diapers or nursing school students? The housekeeping staff in your hospitals is made up of people who are capable of success in engineering programs? The cashiers at your Walmarts are all super bright people who work because the enjoy interaction with the public? Well, that isn't the case here.

    I never made a sweeping or broad statement. I said many people aren't capable of higher level thinking that higher paying jobs require. I stand by it.

  6. Lmao...  My IQ places me squarely in the "highly gifted" category, and before I became a SAHM I worked exclusively low paying jobs.  Gas station cashier, library tech, group home employee...  If someone like me isn't smart enough to do anything better, I can't imagine how they fill all those middle management jobs out there.  I mean, there are only so many Mensa members to go around.

     

    Then I am not referring to you. I didn't say all or even most, but many. You worked with mainly people whose IQ was similar to yours at your gas station and group home jobs?

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  7. Wait...a lot of people in "lower paying jobs" don't have the intellectual ability to do much else?  And "being smart enough to work your tail off and succeed"? Ummm... I'm just not sure what to say here.  Can you clarify or is this really as ridiculous as it sounds. 

     

    I can try to clarify mommymilkies.  Many people who work low paying jobs such as fast food, gas station, grocery store clerk, etc. do so because they aren't smart enough to do anything else.  They aren't good enough with their hands to pursue a skilled trade either.  They do work hard and they do work their tail off but no real success will be seen.  Outside of working tons of hours and usually multiple jobs they can't afford basic necessities  I don't understand what you find so ridiculous about the idea that intellectual ability varies greatly and those who are lacking it find it necessary to take jobs that don't pay well.

  8. But..there are a ton of risks driving to the playground, too. Drunk drivers, tire blow out, person behind you'd brakes fail (that one happened to my husband...he's still not right 2 years later thanks to the head injury he got when he hit the rear windshield of his truck with his head), and of course those out of control cars and crazy drivers you mention.

    These examples aren't suitable for comparison to anything that 2 children could face. In those examples there is an adult there to react and use their adult judgement.
  9. If an individual or entity exercises their freedom of speech and expresses opinions in a disrespectful or irresponsible way, then what should happen in your view? Should freedom of speech apply only to responsible expression of opinions, and if so, who should draw the line?

    Nothing should happen. But it does. We can't make murder any more illegal than it is or free speech any more legal than it is. I don't understand why posters keep asking this question over and over? Nothing should happen, but it does and everyone knows that it may before they choose to speak, draw, etc. We are all free to draw the line for ourselves where we see it appropriate to do so.
  10. It is our job as parents to teach and live out our faith for our children.  Church is a few hours a week.  You can do scripture memory every day at home. Look at Seeds Family Worship - they have scripture set to music that most enjoy.  It is a pretty easy way to add it to the day when you just have to hit play :) 

  11. The pope said, "You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others."

     

    And

     

    "There are so many people who speak badly about religions or other religions, who make fun of them, who make a game out of the religions of others. They are provocateurs. And what happens to them is what would happen to Dr. Gasparri if he says a curse word against my mother. There is a limit."

     

    He is very specifically saying that free speech should be limited to avoid offending the religious (after all, a religion itself cannot be offended, and no god has ever spoken up about this directly). He's saying that by avoiding offending the religious, one can avoid getting hurt.

    He is right. If CH had avoided offending the religious extremists they would have avoided getting hurt. He isn't speaking that into truth and existence. It already is.

  12. I know a PS parent whose son was not ready to read. There was so much pressure on both of them that she took him to doctor after doctor who told her nothing was wrong, he just wasn't ready. Finally one doctor gave her a diagnosis (barely) but she's clung to it because it's alleviated the pressure from the school and they've backed off a bit. Sad, eh?

    It is extremely sad when a parent hopes for something to be "wrong" with their child. I wish everyone had the support and ability necessary to permit their children to develop at their own pace.
  13. This is not the only area where acknowledging that certain factors can contribute to an outcome is taken as "excusing the perpetrator" or "blaming the victim". I find it rather frustrating and counter-productive. Are we really so dense that we can't process that fact? That certain things contribute to an outcome, without excusing it? Last time I asked about this it seemed "slippery slope toward blaming the victim" is the answer why we can't even *consider* these things.

     

    I just think we should be smarter than that.

    I agree - some are quick to point out that the pope didn't speak in a vacuum. Neither do satirists or anyone else. It is deplorable, but foreseeable that extremists would react to the work of the cartoonists.
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