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  1. My state has it on the list of what to teach, but because the list is about our only real requirement, it is up to us as to when and how to do that.

     

    I had my oldest do it as an independent study between third and fourth grade with some great books I got from Barnes and Noble and the library. We talked about each book as she read it, and it worked fine that way for us. We were not in the four-year history cycle at the time, and we were in between doing American history and starting Ancient, so I decided to squeeze it in over the summer. I do have another, larger book that I am going to fit in in 8th grade, along with our state and federal constitutions.

  2. I am Shelly. I am homeschooling my three girls who are 10, 7 and 5. This is our third year as homeschoolers. We live in an Illinois suburb of St. Louis, MO. I found this board in December.

     

    We started out with WTM, but I really needed more direction in the day-to-day at the time, so I have loosely followed it and thrown in all sorts of other things ever since. I am finding that I will follow it much more closely in the logic stage, and that is somewhat of a relief.

     

    I like coming here and "talking and listening" to all sorts of people I probably wouldn't run across in my daily life. I love hearing their views and ideas, and I love hearing about what everyone is using for school, even if that is not always good for me!

  3. I have been avoiding this thread because I was afraid I couldn't post without appearing as upset as I am. Sorry in advance for that, and sorry to the many people on this thread whom I know this does not apply to.

     

    I am tired of, as a Catholic, being told what I believe. Instead of asking me or going to the MANY available sources to know what the church teaches, people rely on "My Baptist pastor says so and so" or "The Jack Chick pamplet tells me such and such."

     

    I don't worship Mary. I don't believe I can work my way to Heaven. And even though there are real differences between what the Catholic church teaches and what most Protestants believe, please quit arguing with me over what you THINK I believe so we could open the door for a real discussion on what I REALLY believe.

     

    The bible has not always been there, and even after it was written and pulled together in one place, many people could not read. When you believe that everything about the faith has to be found in the bible, you deny this fact, IMO. Jesus did not write a book and leave it with us. We believe he left a church to help us understand that book.

     

    {{Rant over.}}

     

    I was recently at an event of my local HS group and my then 9 yo daughter was asked if we are Christians. She said, "Yes, of course we are." She was told that we aren't, and that Catholics only think they are. When she tried to argue that, she was told that her father told her that, and she was supposed to stay away from us anyhow. That is wrong and hurtful. Especially to say to my child.

     

    This is where I am coming from with this, and again, I am sorry to the many people who I already know would not say this to my child, even if they believed it.

     

    Protestants do NOT agree on everything either, but they do seem to extend a tolerance and welcome to each other in a way that many never extend to Catholics, and I am sad about that.

  4. We are really liking HO Ancients 2, but I am doing it with a 10 yo girl who loves history and likes to write.

     

    I did end up purchasing a workbook on how to outline from Rainbow Resource, because we don't have enough experience in that area. I am also adding in outside reading from Sonlight Core 6 and the Mother of Divine Grace 6th and 7th grade history programs. (MODG is a Catholic program, but the supplemental history books for the ancients are not religious, for the most part. You can find a list for free at http://www.emmanuelbooks.com under book lists, if you are interested.) With the added books, I am finding it well-rounded and a great skill-building program.

     

    What I like about HO is that all the maps and mapwork are included, it builds research and writing skills, and that it is the one program that is making it doable for me to follow the WTM history cycle well.

     

    Good luck!

  5. I am sure this has been brought up, but one nice thing can come for the publisher when a buyer buys used. I may take a chance and buy something more expensive used that I normally would not even consider buying new. If I like it, I will go to the publisher and buy the next book or level new. So they can get new customers and good word-of-mouth advertising that way.

     

    I try to be ethical in my purchases. I try to buy new from the publisher or author when I can. I don't xerox workbooks to sell or things like that. But I have definitely bought and sold used curriculum. And since most people who are selling are taking that money and buying more curriculum with the money, it does even out somewhere.

  6. This isn't fiction, but there is a landmark book called "Evangeline & the Acadians" It might still be OOP though if they haven't reprinted it.

     

    OH, also Janette Oke has a series about the Acadian Expulsion called the Acadians. The first book in the series "The Meeting Place" is the one that deals with it, the rest take place after the fact.

     

    I have to second the Landmark book "Evangeline and the Acadians." It is worth finding!

     

    We are descended from the Acadians on my maternal grandmother's side, so we have been doing some reading about them.

     

    Good reading!

  7. I am going through a small crisis over that. I find myself chanting over and over, "I like what I bought; I will use what I have."

     

    I go back and forth between knowing that for me, there is no perfect open-and-go curriculum and deciding that sure there is, but I haven't found IT yet. I am afraid this board is contributing to my unwellness!

     

    Yours looks solid. I can't look again, though, or I will be digging out my WP catalog!

  8. Hmm. This year's is "Buy and Ditch: The Art of Keeping Your Children Confused and Guessing by Switching Curricula Multiple Times Before the School Year Even Starts." Of course, this is only written for moms with kids old enough to ask questions and care about what they are using.

     

    Previous years' would have to be "One, Two, Three Approaches Are Never Enough or the More, the Merrier Method of Homeschooling."

  9. I voted that I am confident, but as I am typing this, I realize that I am not completely confident. Aargh. I bought CW and am trying hard to convince myself to really do it for my 5th grader. I have R&S English and Spelling for my 3rd grader, but I am not sure if I am going to place her in 2 or 3, and I still need to do the placement test for her for WWE. Oh, and I am still looking at catalogs, although I am more ruling out at this point. I think I need a support group.

     

    5th

    Grammar: Rod & Staff 5

    Writing: Big oops.

    Vocabulary: Wordly Wise 3000 book 6

    Spelling: CHC speller F

    Math: Saxon 65

    Science: Apologia Zoology 1

    FL: Latina Christiana 1 (finally going to really do this)

    History: History Odyssey Ancients 2 (plus lots of add-ins, making this take some of this year and all of next to finish)

    Art: Seton Art 5

    Religion: Faith and Life 5 and Bible History

    Plus Typing Instructor, Swim team, piano lessons, Little Flowers and maybe a part-time co-op

     

    3rd

    Grammar: Rod & Staff 2 or 3

    Writing: WWE 1 or 2 and CLE Cursive book

    Phonics: Little Angels (finishing finally)

    Spelling: Rod and Staff 2 or 3 (really wanted AAS but ran out of $$)

    Math: Abeka 3

    Science: Apologia Zoology 1

    History: Sonlight Core 1 (plus lots of add-ins, making this take some of this year and all of next to finish)

    Art: Seton Art 1 book with her sister

    Religion: Faith and Life 3 and Bible History

    Plus YMCA homeschool PE, piano lessons, speech therapy, Little Flowers and maybe a part-time co-op

     

    1st

    Grammar: FLL 1/2

    Writing: WWE 1

    Phonics: Little Angels and OPGTR

    Math: Abeka 1 and Singapore 1B

    Science: Apologia Zoology 1

    History: Sonlight Core 1 (plus lots of add-ins, making this take some of this year and all of next to finish)

    Art: Seton Art 1 book with her sister

    Religion: Faith and Life 1 and Bible History

    Plus YMCA homeschool PE, ballet, Little Flowers and maybe a part-time co-op

  10. Some people like formal reading programs, and others don't. I don't know if "should" really comes into it, as much as how you want to address reading fluency and comprehension. Like with everything else, people seem to be drawn to one method or the other pretty naturally.

     

    IMO, if you are reading aloud to your kids, having them read to you, and doing narrations, you are basically using living books to accomplish the same thing as a formal reading program would.

     

    We do some CM narration, and I have readers for the younger grades because that is what my middle DD likes to use to read aloud to me. I don't buy a reading program because for me, it would be another workbook to feel compelled to do to check the box off, but that is a personal thing for my family at this point.

     

    I know HOD's DITHOR is supposed to be a bridge to use living books instead of readers to make up a reading program. If you want something more formal than what you are doing but don't want to do formal readers, you could always look into that.

     

    Good luck! It doesn't sound like you are missing anything.

  11. Would it be heresy to say that I think there is much truth and usefulness in all methods of cookery, even though I believe Crock Potting to be superior? For example, many methods of cooking use the very same ingredient preparation techniques as Crock Potting and I can't help but think that they've at least got that part right, even if they then choose to put the ingredients in an oven, or even a microwave.

     

    Gasping! A microwave? The very fast track to F_t C_mp?

     

    No! I'll stick with my sacred texts of the manual and Crock Pot recipes and continue with my un-burnt Crock Pot offerings, thank you very much.

  12. I had the basic Saving Dinner book, and we really liked it. Like someone else said, I don't use it for the whole week. I just can't commit to making that many new recipes each week.

     

    I have also downloaded two e-books from them that we love. I have the Crockpot meals and the Frugal meals, and they are wonderful. The ones I bought are broken up weekly by season, and I have liked everything I have tried.

     

    Another book that is something like that is "The Six O'Clock Scramble" by Aviva Goldfarb. I got this from my library, and it has lots of healthy dinner options that remind me of Saving Dinner.

     

    Good luck! I don't think there is a bad choice in the bunch for these.

  13. I am one who looks at them every planning year, and I have even been sucked into buying one of them. I don't know why I keep coming back, because they don't work for me! I know they are great for other families because I believe them when they post here. :D I know other people make them work, but I can't, because as soon as I get one home, the perfect curriculum doesn't look so perfect for us any more, and the first thing I do is start deconstructing it and tweaking it to make it a better fit. Then I am left with something that honestly doesn't resemble the one I purchased and I repeat the cycle with thinking that maybe THAT was the problem, you know, that I am not doing the program as intended.

     

    I find I do better with deciding on my perfect fit for each subject and then using the time and energy I was pouring into the curriculum hunt into making all my perfect pieces fit. I am also drifting back to my WTM roots, and I find that WTM is fitting us much better in the logic stage than it was in the grammar stage. Of course, I am also a more experienced HSer now, and that was part of my problem using WTM earlier too.

     

    No answers, just pondering, I guess. I often wonder if all the people raving about this curriculum or that one will still be faithful to it a year from now, or if some of them will be the ones moving on to the next new thing next year.

     

    ETA: I guess I am looking at integrated as being whole programs, where everything is scheduled for you and things are supposed to be set up to go together. Kind of like the old Mary Kay make-up system, where they wouldn't sell the make-up unless you bought the skin care because unless you have the basic foundation, none of the rest will work the way it is supposed to. Not that I believe that entirely, but that is probably why I can't make the integrated programs work either.

  14. :grouphug: I am sorry that this is happening.

     

    Sometimes it is hard to fit in to a homeschool group. Some of them seem to be made up of people who all go to the same church, and therefore have the same friends and do the same things. We are Catholic, so we are misfits for that from the start with most of the Christian groups. We are lucky to have found a group with no statement of faith, but it has still taken a while to be around enough for us to really start making friends. I just find that most people here already have their lives and activities settled, and if you don't go to their church, you don't fit well into that. In my area, I don't think they mean to be exclusive or cliquish, but it definitely can come off that way. Other people are just mean and still behaving like they are in junior high, and the sad thing is that these people always seem to be the ones in charge of things.

     

    What we have done is found a neutral ground activity, and we have used that to get to know people with the same interests. I am not sure we will even really be "group" people, but after three years, we are finally starting to feel like we have friends and know people, if that makes any sense.

     

    You are not alone!

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