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Evergreen State Sue

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  1. Hi!  I recently got a new oven.  I love it except it is a slide in oven so there is a gap between the oven and my counter on both sides so crumbs fall in the crack.  My last oven had a lip that went over the counter.  I think there is something that you can place between the oven and the counter to eliminate the gap.  I tried to google this appliance accessory, but I couldn't find it.  Any ideas?

    Thanks so much!  Merry Christmas!

  2. 3 hours ago, Garga said:

    For food—do you know how much you spent at the grocery store before he lived with you?  If you use a credit card to pay, you can probably go on the credit card website and see what you’ve been paying at grocery stores for the past year. Charge him whatever is above what you normally spend.  You’d include things like TP and papertowels in the fee, because he’d be using those things.  He’d have to buy all his own items that aren’t shared (shampoo, razors, etc.)

    Same thing for utilities.  See what the bills were in the past and charge him the difference.  Maybe compare this from the previous year’s month, as charges in December might be entirely different from charges in July.  So, compare what you spent in Sept 2017 without him against what you spent in 2018 with him.

    For rent.  That’s a little trickier.  He’s renting just a room from you and not an entire apartment.  Is his goal in living at home to pay down his college loans fast?  If that’s the case, then I would have him apply any rent toward his loans.  Once the loans are paid off, then I’d charge him rent for living there.  

    If he doesn’t have loans to pay off and he’s just living at home for some other reason, then I’d find out the cheapest rent for living in a single room with shared amenities in your area and charge him that.  

    I’m not sure yet whether I’d save up that money to give back to him, or if I’d use it to fix up the current home you’re living in.  There are some repairs my home needs, but I can’t afford them because I’ve raised kids and had their expenses all these years.  Part of me wants to say, “if they are adults and paying rent, then the rent goes toward fixing up the house we’re all living in.”  But another part of me wants to help launch the next generation, so I might give it all back when he needs a downpayment for a house or something huge like that.

    Our son lived at home while attending a local college so there has never been a time without him to price with and without his use of food or utilities.  No college loans either.  I do think that having multiple people living in a house takes its toll on the house so using rent money to help with fixing up the house makes sense. 

  3. 3 hours ago, Where's Toto? said:

    I've actually been looking for a cheap apartment or room for my oldest.  In my county, a one bedroom apartment or even just a room will run $800 to $1500 a month.  If she goes to the more urban areas, she MIGHT be able to get something (200 square foot room) for $600 a month.  I'm in an extremely HCOL.  Right now she lives with my mother while she goes to grad school.  She works full time as a retail manager so isn't making that much money, but the flexibility is more important for right now.

    I know quite a few people doing multi-generational housing right now.  Things are extremely expensive and the only jobs that are plentiful are retail and food service.

    I love the idea of multi-generational housing.  Our parents are with the Lord, so it will only be two generations here.  I love having my children with us, but I don't have personal experience with it since I had been out of my parent's house since age 19.  Prices are high here too.

  4. 12 hours ago, gardenmom5 said:

    I expect both of my son's to stick around for awhile after graduation, just to save money for a down payment.  (unless 1ds takes a job in another state - possible with his major)  I'm happy to do that, and only charge them what it costs me to have them - which is much less than going rent.

    5 years ago, we were charging 1dd $500.   which still enabled her to save a decent down payment for her house.

    I think you're in my area - and what people outside of it might not realized - in the seattle area - that's a cheap apartment. a decent single  room in someone's "decent" house can easily go for $900.

    Yep, I'm in your area.  When I was on my own (granted many, many years ago) my large 1 br apt. cost $250/month.  Now the same apt. is up over $1,000 from there!

  5. 13 hours ago, DawnM said:

    Hmmm.....I don't know, but I would be inclined to find out what a 2 bedroom apt would cost (shared with a roommate, so half of that would be his cost if he were to move out) and charge half of that.

    Does he have any student loans?  My oldest will have student loans and we hope to live in an area where he could work and live with us while he pays those off.  

    I personally have told my kids they can live with us as long as they want as long as they are abiding by our rules, being respectful, and saving money for a downpayment.  I don't plan to police that to the extent of charging rent to give back (I actually don't like that parenting method but YMMV), but we have instilled the concept saving with our kids.  

    Good idea to half the cost of a 2 bedroom apt.  No student loans, but I would support a child paying those off first before charging rent as we plan to do that with another child.

  6. 14 hours ago, TX Native said:

    If you don't need the extra money and just want to charge to help him inch his way to living independently, I would suggest charging a percentage of his income.  Maybe around 20% for room and board if he does some helpful chores regularly and uses water/electric somewhat sparingingly.  


    Great idea to base it on a percentage of his income.  I think some  financial experts talk about using a percentage of your income to figure out how much house you can afford to buy.  Thanks!

  7. 14 hours ago, TechWife said:

    I think without knowing what type of job he would have, I couldn't answer this question. I have an adult son who will be with us for the foreseeable future for a variety of reasons. There is no way that he could afford to live on his own with his current job. We have prioritized what he needs to pay for: gas to get to/from work, clothing, medication co-pays, medical insurance premiums, etc. Rent to us doesn't even make the cut. He cannot go without medication, medical insurance or MD appointments, so him living on his own isn't in the picture. He can either pay rent to us or someone else and we pay for medical expenses, or he can pay medical expenses and live here at no additional cost to either us or to him. Even then, we will have to chip in for medical expenses from time to time. It is not possible at this time for him to increase his earning potential, so this is where we are. We are all at peace with it and he is actually a good "roommate." It's much different than having a teenager in the house. Of course, each situation is different, but I think that whether or not to charge rent, how much and for how long is a very individual situation. While it's good to think ahead, do keep an open mind and realize that the situation may turn out vastly different than you think it will. It could be everything from ds getting a job and supporting himself in a distant city to him needing to stay home for financial reasons. Encouraging financial independence really does look different for everyone.

    You sound like a great mom!  I love how you've thought it through for your son and have given me things to think about for mine.  Thanks!

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  8. 34 minutes ago, Tiberia said:

    I would charge $150 for the first month, then add $100 per month until he moves out, with a cap of maybe $550 or $650, in case some special situation comes up and he's not out after 6 months.

    When we've had international students live with us, the going rate was $750 per month for room and board (private room, shared bathroom, family meals, not including extra snacks and junk food. minimal chore expectations: they did their laundry, cleaned their room and bathroom, and helped clean up after meals)

    I never thought about upping the rent each month as an incentive to move out.  I have mixed feelings about him moving - I know he needs to take on that responsibility, but I sure hate to see him spending the kind of money it would take for even a 1 br apartment if he didn't have a good job.  And who would mow the lawn? ha!

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  9. 2 hours ago, happysmileylady said:

    My oldest is actually currently living with my parents.  This is due to the fact that her internship is in that area and not ours.  

    In that area, Indy, she can find a 1br apartment for $450, in a safe area (in fact in the apartment complex we lived in back when she was in kindy.  So if we lived there and she was living with us and she wasn’t finding a job, we would probably charge her like $200 rent.  Depending on her actions, that may or may not progress upwards.  

    1 br apartments around here are closer to 1200!

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  10. Hello!  I told my oldest (almost 23) that when he graduates from college in June that we would give him until September and then start charging him rent.  I assumed it would take about 3 months to get a good job.  How much do you think we should charge him for room, utilities, and meals when he's here.  He does some chores around the house, but not nearly enough for a free ride at his age.  


  11. God speaks to me by having a complete peace about the decision I've made.  Sometimes, though, if I don't have that complete peace and I have to make a decision in a short amount of time, I just do the best I can, and it generally works out.  God gives us freedom to make decisions. 

  12. 16 hours ago, Tanaqui said:

    When I was a kid, people freely said the r-word (r****d) and the OTHER f word (f****t), along with their derivatives. Not in my family, but kids said those all the time without anybody blinking.

    When my mother was a kid, people said the n-word, and again, that was considered rude but not a "bad word".

    We no longer use those slurs.


    I don't know what the r word is.  Can anyone tell me in such a way it it isn't too offensive?

    I grew up with a longshoreman for a dad, so I heard some words, but the f word was very rarely spoken.  I still find it shocking when people use it for an adjective. 



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  13. The lid lock on my LG is annoying as it takes an extra step to pause the machine before opening the lid.  But, I got used to it.  If that is your only objection, I wouldn't cancel it just for that. 


    I had one of those nice Speed Queens for about 20 years, then bought the LG.  I do wish I had the Speed Queen back - either older or modern model. 

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  14. What a privilege to know your daughter through your touching words. What a beautiful person she was and I applaud your efforts to get her involved in many activities that became her passion.  I hope you can somehow collect her artwork into a lovely book you and others can treasure.  You are an awesome mom.  I am sorry for your loss and pain that only a mom can truly understand. You will reunited in heaven someday and what a glorious reunion that will be!

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  15. We put 3 rows of shelving in my dd's room attached to the wall and higher up/close to the ceiling.  Her animals were displayed and high enough out of reach that they didn't get played with and left on the floor.  Ones that she played with were very limited.  She had to choose which ones she had to give away if they didn't fit on the shelf.  My thought was if you had to hide them away, why keep them.  I have to say there were some that I wanted her to keep for sentimental reasons that she didn't want.  I ended up keeping them in my room!

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  16. What brand did you get?  Is this something that can go in a kitchen?  We are thinking of replacing the carpeting with a hard floor surface in the dining room which is naturally adjacent to the kitchen and I think it would flow better to have the two the same.  I doubt you have a kitchen upstairs, but wondered if you were putting it in a bathroom where water would be an issue.  Hope you're enjoying it!

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