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  1. I speak from experience on this one: The ODD makes this very wise advise not so wise. The harder I cramped down on mine, the worse everything got. I actually put him in school for 3rd grade because i couldn't take the horrid tantrums and impossible, uncooperative behavior any longer. When we changed our attitude and approach, things finally started to change.

     

     

    DITTO!

  2. Just my 2 cents...

     

    Regardless of faith - it doesn't seem natural. Male and female fit together like a puzzle and are meant to work together...

     

    Now - I'm not saying I'm against it or that I have any kind of problem with it - that's their business and thier choice...

     

    That is all :001_smile:

     

    That is what my mom always says, and she is not a believer of any faith.

  3. Our church has an outreach ministry for youth. Its goal is to bring non churched kids into the church to learn about God. I think it does a pretty good job of it. What does it look like? Well to be honest it is very messy. These kids are from broken homes, are hurting and are in desperate need of love. These are the undesirables in the community. They try and shock you with their language and their attitudes. They are exactly who we are to be reaching out to! Our current YM has a real love and ability to connect with these kids and to be honest it isn't easy. Very few of the so called good church kids come to our outreach group. I think their parents are protecting them from this influence. I completely understand that and support them. I however use this time to teach my ds how to show compassion and love to them. Also I use it as a teaching tool to show how their destructive behavior is hurting them. I can't really answer your other questions because I don't know. What I do know is that this is where God is calling us to serve and we can't go wrong as long as we are faithful. :001_smile:

     

     

    Wow, I like your youth group philosophy, as well as your own personal philosophy. :) Few of our "good kids" even come to youth group, homeschooled and nonhomeschooled alike. They are all too "busy" and disinterested. The faithful few that come are really great kids. But I'd like to see the outreach happening.

  4. :grouphug:

     

    And what about all those who made the poor choices of being born with juvenile diabetes, autism, cerebral palsy etc etc? or those who made the poor choice of being hit by a drunk driver, get cancer or any of the other things that can cause catastrophic medical costs. Or God forbid, develop an unattractive mental illness.

     

    In our community we have a wonderful charitable organization which unfortunately only wants to help the "attractive" poor - not the schizophrenic.

     

    That pretty much sums up what I think. It's sad.

  5. Michael Jackson's Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' song.

     

     

    Help Me Sing It,

    Ma Ma Se, Ma Ma Sa, Ma Ma Coo Sa

    Ma Ma Se, Ma Ma Sa, Ma Ma Coo Sa

     

    V.S.

     

    Help Me Sing It,

    I'ma sing it to the sound of my new song...

    I'ma sing it to the sound of my new song...:D

     

    Oh my goodness, I had NO idea what he was saying. I definitely thought it was more along the lines of what you thought (Ma Ma Se...) Thanks for setting me straight! :)

  6. I used to know some website full of these funnies. They referred to the "condition" of mihearing lyrics as "chronic lyricosis." I also had this great book called Dave Barry's Book of Bad Songs that was hilarious!

     

    Here are a couple of ours (me, dh, and I think one of the kids')

     

    "Big ol' Chad had a lighthouse" (Big Old Jet Airliner)

     

    "Im a Poolhall Ace" (how my poor heart aches, from that Police song)

     

    "I Been Down to Hardees, Baby" (Been DOwnhearted Baby)

  7. This was a hot topic for me during my last pregnancy, during which I discovered Henci Goer. Check out her site http://www.hencigoer.com and especially this page: http://www.lamaze.org/Forums/AskHenci/tabid/363/view/topics/forumid/12/Default.aspx

     

    I must say though that my drs were very pressuring about my views and would not give up. They finally pushed the issue by forcing me to come in for weekly NSTs and then saying my baby looked abnormal on a sonogram, which meant i had to see a specialist. He did not think there was a thing wrong with the baby and acted very casual about it. Our baby was perfectly normal. They tried to tell me I HAD to induce early because they suspected dwarfism, even though the specialist disagreed with this.

     

    I did not induce early and my baby was perfectly normal.

  8. My dad wanted to know how long I was going to keep my son from the real world. All I could think of is "I wish he had kept me from the real world of middle school". Now it makes me smile, my kids are much more exposed to the real world than any of the public school friends they have.

    Melissa

     

    My mom says that frquently. Once we did put my son in PS middle school, we saw a rapid decline in his confidence, manners, motivation, attention span, moods, etc.

     

    PS didn't cause those problems, but it exacerbated them.

     

    Now my mom thinks that because my son is having really BAD problems, it is proof that homeschooling ruined him and that we need to come to our senses and put our other three in school before "it's too late." She is convinced if our ds had always been in PS, he would never had done drugs, etc. But now every bad thing he does is attributed to his late return to PS, after years of homeschooling, which was better for him.

  9. My ds has been dx as mild Aspergers and apparently my hs'ing him has caused it!!! :cursing:

     

    Same with my oldest ds. I have had it hinted and somewhat more boldly put that he would not be considered ADHD or bipolar if we has just left him in PS after first grade.

     

    He had problems in K and first also, but some folks (even the teacher) actualyl attributed that to the fact he was not in daycare since infancy, thus he was not "socialized."

     

    :(

  10. I have *that* child. Only he was 5 when he kicked dh in the privates in a store. :( My son is now 10 and he is a very ANGRY child. His temper tantrums are getting harder and harder to handle and yesterday, he pickled up his breakfast fork and threatened to stab his brother with it. He also has ADHD, but the biggest issue is the ANGER.

     

    We too are working on how to help him. Severe punishment is not the key - but teaching him where to direct that anger and how to stop it is. I got some great advice from MelissaL and Pamela in TX on the thread titled "s/o...all you non-spankers" Please go there and read toward the end if you are interested in the actual incident and all that happened as well as the advice I got.

     

    We are seeking therapy for him (again) as he is getting too old for physical punishment and this is just not a good combination anyway with his current anger issues.

     

    Best of luck and hugs to you. I feel ya...I have been there!:grouphug:

     

    I have that child, too, only now he is 16 and the stakes are higher. If you want to know just how much higher, feel free to PM me.

     

    I had a counselor suggest getting a psych eval from a psychiatrist, to determine if bipolar disorder might be the problem. It runs in our family...yep, that is the problem!

     

    This book is very respected: The Bipolar Child.

     

    Also this website is the best I've found: http://www.bpkids.org

     

    I know some people have trouble believing kids can have bipolar, but I understand so much better now!

     

    Stimulants can make it worse...and ADHD is often NOT ADHD...which is often found out when the child doesn't do well on stimulants. But they frequently misdiagnose it as ADHD.

  11. NOt orror story, but to me it is. My ds went back in 7th and we discovered just how ADHD he actually is. We suspected it, but managed to get around it by homeschooling.

     

    No organization tricks or tips worked for him and the teachers were BRUTAL on organization issues more than actual intelligence of child. He made so many bad grades due to ADHD related disorganization and poor memory that he became convinced he was a moron. It mattered more how you filled out your "reading log" than it did what you thought about the book, etc. etc.

     

    math was much harder than the Saxon we did at home. He got no help and they always said he should not ask for any, from them or at home. He learned less and in a more confusing way than at home.

     

    Kids were very ugly to those who were "different" and especially former homeschoolers, and anyone who wasn't "popular" or good at sports.

     

    Many kids smoked weed and/or drank alcohol.

     

    Kids with ADHD, bipolar, etc. were considered "Stupid" or "Retards" and were even treated ugly by some teachers. None were in honors or gifted classes.

     

    Kids that age talk about sex constantly and about being "gay." YOu don't have to BE gay to be considered "gay." Just different.

     

    It matters LOT what you wear if you care what social classes accept you.

     

    Small towns have lots of parent snobs as well.

     

    You aren't allowed to hug or touch anyone; it's sexual harrassment.

  12. With such restrictive policies, you might as well say check or money order only on your sale page.... then you mail it when money had cleared your bank (only a few days). If they have a dispute, Ebay can handle it with you.

     

    PayPal has been greedy for some time.... the fees often killed my little ebay profits on small items.... maybe it is time to stop using them.

     

    I recently tried to sell some books on Ebay asking that people use check or money order only. I had one buyer get quite nasty about it because she said it wasn't "safe" to do that and she only uses Paypal because it is the only "trustworthy" way to get her stuff.

     

    She cancelled the transaction. The other buyer I had complained but did not cancel her transaction. She strongly suggested I only use Paypal from now on if I want to sell anything.

     

    Dh won't let me get Paypal and now I am starting to wonder if he actually is the smart one??

  13. Oh, I feel all of your pain here! I do not feel guilty anymore that y dc are "missing out" by being hsed. I let that influence me into sending my then 12yods to PS. He has now failed the tenth grade, suffers from no help for his ADHD and bipolar in his school (they just dub kids like that "bad" and "not college material), and I could go on and on.

     

    My almost 15yodd has learned enough from his experiences (including turning to the wrong crowd because the "right" crowd won't accept him) that she doesn't want anything to do with PS. She is at various activities such as swim team and the middle school kids are bragging about s*x and smoking pot! Some of these kids are even considered "good" by adults bc their families have money and they make good grades.

     

    My younger 2 don't care about any of it and haven't been phased by their PS acquaintances yet.

     

    I was proud my older dd told these girls, "I LOVE my mom!" after they shared that the HATE theirs. The reason? Their moms were upset they had posted suggestive pics of them in bikinis on their Myspaces. My dd doesn't even bother with Myspace anymore, but when she did, I totally trusted her. Anytime I saw it, it had a couple of wholesome pics and all Christian songs.

  14. I can tell you from experience that my dc learn the hard subjects, even the ones I don't particularly like, better from me than from any other person, including dh and including PS teachers.

     

    The difference? I truly care and won't brush them off and say, "I can't help you with that" or "what is your problem?! Blah, blah, blah..." etc.

     

    Now, I do get frustrated, etc. I do not love math or most types of science. But I have learned these subjects better as an adult and not in the pressure cooker of PS with peers being mean, teachers that aren't all that great, etc.

     

    If your dh truly wants to teach them stuff, I say let him do it. But don't believe him when he says you are not capable. Also do not let his frustration if he gets upset with the kids ruin their relationships or send him into a tailspin, thinking they'd be better off in PS.

     

    Patience is the key. I know!

  15. I have some depression issues of my own. My dc certainly aren't perfect. I am dealing with two teens, one of whom was in PS last year, and ever since 7th grade. I truly regret putting him in PS. It was not right for him. I let dh pressure both him and me into it. My dd is 14 and does not want to go to PS. DOes she give me trouble? SOmetimes! I know what you mean about hormones! They include my own! I am 42. I am tired!

     

    Let me reiterate: I deeply regret PS. My other dc know this... and do not want to go. They have seen and heard enough from their brother, from me, and from other kids and parents who are in PS.

     

    I would steer clear if at all possible, unless you feel really sure it will be better. PS for my son worsened both of our depression. I tried putting my younger one in years ago and he would have been a year behind. he hated it and I pulled him back out the first week. His teacher was really ugly toward her class (supposedly one of the "Best" teachers) and the principal and reading specialist were rude and demeaning toward me, pooh poohing any thoughts of LDs, etc.

     

    I hear enough about teachers having s*x with the kids, about violence and s*x and dr*gs amongst the kids, etc. to curl my hair. I do not want my kids in that environment, no matter how fed up I get. So many parents I know whose kids are doing well (straight As, sports stars, etc.) would tell you how great our schools are. But I beg to differ!

     

    This is just how *I* feel. Most will probably tell you that you should put your kids back in school. But I won't.

  16. I am relieved to hear there are others who screamed!

     

    i am such a shy, easily embarrassed person you can imagine I would have preferred to be a silent birther!

     

    my first was almost nine lbs and had a really big head. He got stuck and I was pushing 3 hrs and ten minutes away from a C section on top of all the vaginal swelling and tearing and strained muscles I was going to have from the rest of the labor.

     

    2nd was pretty easy.

     

    3rd same weight as first

     

    4th 7 lbs but sunny side up and it hurt BAD!

     

    Epidurals each time but not nearly soon enough except with #2 and a caring OB! The epidural was scary and painful, too, with electric shock sensations ripping through my legs!!!!!!!!!

     

    With my first it was a military hospital and I had the rudest nurse you can imagine. She screamed back at me and made fun of me afterward! She even said she preferred Filipino ladies because they birth silently! Wow, none of them crack under the pressure and fear? This lady had no dc of her own, either.

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