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The memories that come to mind first are the times when my older siblings paid some special attention to me, instead of telling me to get lost. Of course there were family vacations, special holiday traditions, and grandparents too.
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Hmm, last I saw, the public universities are full of courses on religious topics and offer degrees in religious studies. Do you want those courses dropped for the offerings of public institutions?
A private school steeped in a religious traditions and dogma, practicing hiring discrimination, and expecting religious conviction from every student is not comparable to taking an elective class in an institution that does not practice any of the above. And in my experience, "religious" degrees are assigned as Philosophy degrees in anything but a college of divinity or private college. But to answer your question, no, I don't think elective courses in comparative religion should be dropped, and I'm sorry if you read my response that way. I'm clearly opposed to my tax dollars going to support an institution's possible discriminatory practices.
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Exactly. (But just FYI, as much as I support your right to post this and most certainly agree with it, it will almost guarantee that the thread will "turn" and be deleted. Like I said, just FYI.)
WHAT? I keep reading about the liberal bias here! I must have been misinformed. Sorry!:D
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I personally know of no physically or mentally ill person not being taken care of, and if you know of any I would ask you to evaluate why they are not, it's most certainly not the fault of the government or due to lack of programs available to them .
Check out the homeless population in any large city. Do a simple google search of all the people who have to fight for federal disability - people lost in the health care system. Check out veterans groups, and all the men who proudly served our nation and aren't getting help for their war related illnesses and injuries. We're talking about millions of people who fall through the cracks every single day. To believe otherwise is pure ignorance.
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Eh, there are crazy people everywhere. Just like I'm somehow anti-POW because I don't vote for Sen. McCain? Oh, please.
Or anti-life.
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You know it doesn't just get limited to universities. CA has already passed a law that affects all religious charitable groups that take state funds. If you take state funds you cannot refuse to hire a homosexual. That means the Christian foster care agency, the Christian preschool who accepts children on reduced income, the Christian university who offers Pell Grants or Student loans, etc.
Personally, I believe we must stop being dependent on government funding because it requires compromising our moral beliefs. You can't stand for truth while accepting hush money.
I'll take it a step further and say the government is overstepping it's bounds. It has no right to be funding any of those programs. It should stay out of education and social issues altogether.
There's always that option. It's not limited to religious organizations you know, ANYONE who accepts federal money has to abide by federal discrimination laws. All states have similar, but in some cases, less restrictive laws.
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For me, the issue of federal dollars going to support religious education is not as great as the issue of federal dollars going to support institutions that do not honor intellectual freedom. Professors losing their jobs for publishing books that are deemed religiously unacceptable. Students being kicked out of the university because their religious beliefs change and they are unwilling to lie about it.
I've love to read the documentation about professors losing their jobs or students being kicked out of schools for religious reasons. I googled but wasn't able to find any articles. Thank you in advance!
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I was talking to you.
I am a Democrat but you are way out of line.
You're free to either a) complain to the management or b) explain why. I don't agree.
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Wow! This is yet another post that has the potential to become an abortion debate. If someone chooses to attend a Christian school, or a Muslim school, or whatever religious school wouldn't we the taxpayers be paying for that too? That's not discriminating against any one religion. Or one wants a totally secular education, the taxpayers pay that too. Aren't there classes in some universities that perhaps teach classes that many in America would object to? I'm thinking of the LGBT 101-Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans. Studies or Pornography 101. Are we really going to say as a nation that a person who seeks a federally funded grant or loan that is to a school or subject matter that we are opposed to then it should not be given to them? These are adults that are making a conscious decision to study in the way they want. What choice is a fetus given about being terminated? We're equating school choice/indoctrination (of adults) to what some believe to be murder? Not the same in my book.
The difference is, all those classes are secular in nature. I don't want my tax dollars spent on a religious education, regardless of the religion. I don't want my tax dollars spent on any faith based initiatives, education, welfare programs, or research. Any faith. The government spends tax money on many things I don't agree with, not the least of which is public education, yet there's a need for that and so I wouldn't vote against it. Faith based doesn't mean Christian Only. The Christians don't own the rights to faith. I used the analogy of abortion in my post because that's an issue that many faith based voters object to having their tax money spent on, and I understand their displeasure. Their displeasure is comparative to mine, as far as where tax money is spent.
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Could you please edit so this thread can stay?
Yes Elaine, please edit your responses. Too many good discussions have been locked (or my post count would be closer to the 50 I need to sell curriculum).
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No I haven't been to any of the places you mentioned. Oh and by putting the "Eek" smile and asking if someone was serious how did that say that I thought socialism was evil? Maybe I was just a bit surprised to see that.
I also interpreted your response as having no idea what socialism is, or that it's somehow a "bad thing". However, I answered you with a "sure", hoping you'd extrapolate on your response. If you're so inclined, you still can, after you consider that "all those places" have socialist governments. Regardless of the troll accusation (aren't we all new here at some time?), I'm sincere.
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Wow! For only having 12 posts, you sure know a lot about me. I'm flattered.:001_smile:
I would answer your questions but I don't really think that you are looking to discuss anything with me. It's much more fun for you to just insult me, right? It's OK, I can take it.
I've read more than 12 posts. Yesterday you told someone else named Elaine not to respond to someone else - I'd link you but your action resulted in that thread being deleted. Now you're calling me a troll and feigning insult. Where exactly did I insult you? I asked you legitimate questions. It's your choice to pretend you're the victim.
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You spend a lot of time telling other posters how to act.
Want to add to the discussion? How about you define "socialist" to me, and show me how Obama fits the criteria. The hysteria is overwhelmingly amusing to me. Unless a "socialist" congress is also elected, there's very little chance of our government becoming "socialist". However, if Obama is elected there's a very GOOD chance that health care, education, and jobs for the already born will be a priority over war and the constant bleating of sheep.
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Are you serious??:eek:
Sure.
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Hum, I could probably agree with some of that, but let me add that Obama came off as a unapologetic SOCIALIST. But I guess that being the defining characteristic of our possible future leader doesn't bother too many folks around here.
If socialism is what it takes to give everyone access to education, health care, and gainful employment, I'm not opposed.
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In my experience, without evidence to the contrary, the judge always believes the officer. Maybe your local traffic court is different. In many areas, a traffic citation received on a clean record gives you some options, like a class instead of a fine. It certainly won't hurt to go to court and try to argue your case. You seem like a person who can give a reasoned point of view.
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I personally have no problem with faith based organizations having no access to federal (or state/local) tax money - or for that money to be strictly controlled with secular restrictions. Just as the pro lifer is discouraged at the thought of their money being tied to the payment of abortion, so I am appalled that my tax money should pay to indoctrinate anyone into a certain religious belief. Go Obama!
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As a graduation requirement, all students in grades 9-12 in our district must volunteer 30 hours in any given school year. They're allowed to when and where. The school provides ample opportunities, and the students can also choose their own.
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Voter fraud? Then let's not forget "politicin' from the pulpit", in the tax exempt atmosphere of nearly every church in the country. Let he without sin throw the first ACORN.
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Where's the outrage on the part of the parents?
Oh, there wasn't any.
In other news articles about this, it states that this is a small charter school, and that the parents were completely aware and supportive of the "field trip".
The families of the school children were given the choice to keep their children in school instead of allowing them to participate in the noontime field trip to City Hall. Two families chose to opt their children out; the rest sent their kids on the field trip with their blessings.Said one father, Marc Lipsett, "How many days in school are they going to remember?"
Added Lipsett, "This is a day they’ll definitely remember."
Jaroflow explained the excursion in terms of the civics lesson it provided, saying, "It really is what we call a teachable moment."
Added the school’s interim director, "I think I’m well within the parameters" for permitting the outing to take place.
http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=81806
It's all about the spin.
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Doesn't McCain think he can get elected without constantly stretching the truth about ACORN?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/us/politics/11acorn.html
While Mr. Obama did represent Acorn in a lawsuit in 1995, Acorn was on the same side as the Justice Department.The Obama campaign described the accusations as a spurious effort to tie Mr. Obama to potentially fraudulent voter registrations.
“Barack Obama strongly condemns voter registration fraud or any other breach of election law by any party or group,†Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman, said in a statement.
Acorn, whose political action committee has endorsed Mr. Obama, has said that the investigations into its voter registration work are politically motivated.
“Rumors of Acorn’s voter fraud have been greatly exaggerated and to a large extent manufactured,†Bertha Lewis, the organization’s interim chief organizer, or chief executive, said Monday in a conference call to announce that the organization had registered 1.3 million people to vote.
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Yes, it was fun watching Phred trash Christians, wasn't it?
Almost as much fun as watching Stacey trash atheists.
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Sirius Satellite has an entire channel devoted to AC/DC.
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" I find it interesting that you are so convinced that it is genetically determined, when in fact there is *no* evidence to that end.
Erica
There's no hard scientific evidence that handedness is genetic or a behavior either, and again, it's prevalent in about 90% of the population. Would you agree that it's a choice and that anyone, if they so choose, could be right or left handed?
re: http://www.iched.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=iched&item_id=research_lefthandedness
And actually, there is scientific evidence emerging from the research: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3735668.stm
There's little research because funding dollars to go projects designed to discover and treat genetic diseases, not answer moral debates.
Baby fever - what age child gives you the bf bug?
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About 9-10 months. They think everything is funny.