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definition dis·crim·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \dis-ˌkri-mə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 1648
1 a: the act of discriminating b: the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently
2: the quality or power of finely distinguishing
3 a: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b: prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination>
synonyms see discernment
from Webster
To those posters who allege "reverse discrimination" as automatically , by definition,racism you are confusing two very different ideas. Discriminating can mean discernment that is to differentiate between two things, ideas, characteristics or people. There is a definitional difference between discriminating between two different characteristics and alleging that one is inherently superior to the other ...that is the fundamental difference between discrimination and racism. Simply calling an organization racist because it is designed around the specific concerns, issues and goals of one group rather than another is not intrinsically racist. It could become such if they actively derided , denigrated or asserted deficencies of the groups not specifically catered to but absent that, it is discriminating not discriminatory. A fundamental difference indeed. BTW as a historical note it is tragic that so many here do not know the history of the" pool" it is not just in Jim Crow territory. Here is an article for your knowledge base on the issue
http://www.thereader.com/cover.php?subaction=showfull&id=1233874358&archive=&start_from=&ucat=5& to pretend this history is not there weakens your position that the events under discussion today are not based on race. BTW as an example the NAACP does permit any person to join that shares their concerns and goals. I know as I have been a member for years.
:iagree: Well said! I take back any attorney jokes I may have made in the past. :001_rolleyes: :001_smile:
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This actually came up a few days ago while visiting a friend and one of her other acquaintances stopped by. After a cup of tea she said “You don’t seem like a homeschooler.” I bit and asked “How so?” “Well you don’t seem like a religious freak, you’re educated, you aren’t a hippie, and your kid seems pretty normal.” “Ummmm” jaw dropping moment “Thanks??? I think” . Wow, what a stereotype. I was on neutral ground so I minded my manners. I did tell her though I don’t own a denim jumper, sometimes in the winter I don’t shave for weeks. I wonder if that is the real world perception out there. I don’t really care but, geesh.
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I have been a victim of discrimination as well as a recipient of verbal and physical battery stemming from racial prejudices. These instances have been amongst the most humiliating and degrading experiences of my life. Though truly impossible to put someone else’s shoes on, and I in no way try to equate the following scenario to a hate crime, I wonder if some would swallow just a bit more bile if they could equate this situation on a more personal level.
Say a private museum was displaying a very rare and exciting exhibit and they announced they were having a special day for school kids. You call a head of time and say you represent a group of students, you pay by credit card and are given tickets. You and your homeschool group get all organized, print out your study guides, pack your lunches and head out for a full, fun- filled, field day only to be turned down because by their definition homeschool kids do not qualify as students. You didn’t think to mention homeschool when you called because students are students to you. How irate would you be? How wrong would they be? Would we on this board finally unite, stomp our feet, and say “Not cool!� Just wondering.
The sadness is that the children know there is a controversy surrounding them and, yes, more than likely they will think it’s because of the color of their skin.
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Yes, we say it and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. It means, "I really strongly dislike x,y,z." Dh strongly dislikes it (ahem) when anyone says, "I'm starving" when they are hungry. To me, it's hyperbole.
Question for OP: Do you forbid using the word "love" in a similar way, as in "I love chocolate?"
imo, in all of these cases, no one is using the word literally.
No, I don't forbid either I just say it's a no-no when used out of context. When I learned how to speak English there was a lot of emphasis put on how much vocabulary there is in English and how to use that in communication. Believe me, there are many ESL people out there that do take words literally. English, to me, has some strong words that can vary wildly in their interpretation. If I really mean "dislike" for example then I say that. There are things I hate, like prejudice, and I mean that. I also really like apples. The same goes for love, I would not want my daughter to equate my love for her to a big fat juicy apple. I know, again, pretty literal, but it does desensitize it a bit. I'm not strict about, I do not care if other people use it in front of me. I know our language has degraded a degree or two. I'm just trying to do my personal part to try and say what I mean. :001_smile: I goof up all the time. :o I have learned from this thread that I'm pretty an*l in comparison. :lol:
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What is ironic about this board is that the same people who will fight endlessly for the right to worship and believe as they please seem to think that they have the right to judge the dress, marriage, sexual identity, literature etc. of others and to impose their beliefs on the rest of the country. You cannot have it both ways, worship and believe as you will but please politely ignore the rest of us rather than try to legislate/impose your particular type of morality on others.
Thank you, that's what I meant. :blush:
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The run amok sensitivity of this board is what is a bit funny. :blink: A (rather odd) celebrity died, obviously those close to him are saddened, but people who don't personally know him are desperate for a piece of him because they boogied to one of his albums as a teenager, and I think that's a worthy area of a head shake and chuckle or two. ;)
I agree, a head shake and a chuckle but saying they need to go to church? That's just as weird to me. I agree about the sensitivity and perhaps I was being defensive. I apologize. Somehow everything gets turned into a religious debate around here. I understand that 75 percent of this board is Christian (to varying degrees) but sometimes it feels well ... hypocritical. :001_smile:
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It surprises me that a singer who hasn't put out very big hits in over 15 years is being discussed as if life has changed in some shocking way since he died, as if he has been continuously influencing people's lives in an ongoing, reciprocal way for decades. if there is no other purpose in life, and no one else to inspire them or influence them at all. It's great to like someone's music, but I fail to see that the vast majority of these people didn't know him personally. To be devastated by the death of one's mother or spouse or child is obviously understandable. To be thrown out of one's lifestyle by the death of a celebrity (I've seen people on TV talking about how they haven't slept, aren't able to focus, etc), and the seeming shock that someone died at all, strikes me as .... unfortunate.
This board is too funny.
I am not a big fan of Michael Jackson, though I can appreciate his accomplishments and generous donations over the years. I can also appreciate that you do not. Your PP stated people fawning should go worship in a house of God. Because people, in your opinion, fawn over someone they don't personally know they should go to church? If people liked him, let them mourn or express themselves however they choose. Wouldn't that be the Christian thing to do? Let people be and let God pass judgment. Yes, you are right this board is too funny.
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I was thinking as I heard all these people fawning on and on -- people need to go to houses of worship more often.
Judgmental much? :001_huh: This confuses me.
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No problems here, you can always fill out a generic "Intent to Homeschool" form if they insist on something. I have one for Kinko's/Fed ex; 10% off print jobs and for Staples, better rewards.
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I was looking for the 50 states and Capitals song and ran across this. It's Christian in content.
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We haven't even made the "official" decision to homeschool yet and I am still completely freaking out about it. How long will it take for this feeling to go away?
Christine
Ummm, it hasn't yet for me (4 years). But I'm kind of a paranoid type :blush: Every once in a while I have a "freak out" moment when I fully weigh in the uber-responsibility of educating my child. Then I really "freak" when I realize it could be worse if I relinquished that responsibility to the PS system and I had little or no control over it. But then again, I'm kind of a control type too. :blush:
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One thing I've pointed out to my kids is that the world is not a very big place and there's no real need to contribute to the negative feelings surrounding it. IOW, think positive, be positive, and add to the happy/good/positive in the world.
:iagree: Very nicely said :001_smile:
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Yep, regular schedule here minus 2 one week breaks for camp and vacation. We school year round literally, but take several week long breaks.
Cons:
We never match up with anybody's "school year"
We seem to be moving way ahead of the game
Back to School deals are in the middle of our year
No one academic year has the same seasons
You can only keep them clueless about other kids summer breaks for so long :blush:
Pros:
Never have to spend a month catching up and/or getting back on track
We seem to be ahead of the game
Back to School deals are usually about the time I start running out of supplies
Can take advantage of "off season" rates
Can buy curriculum in the not so busy times, i.e. faster shipping
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I do think it is a bit much. I am very tired of all the adulation. I enjoyed his music in the 80's. I danced to it. Even then, I knew he was only a pop star. What did he do besides make pop music? Did he devote his life to helping others? Did he make a difference in the world outside the bubble of entertainment?
I agree the media is a bit much but we, as a nation, tend to operate on supply and demand.
That aside. It is estimated that Michael Jackson has given over 500 million dollars to charities. The list below only some of the regular benefactors of his generosity. So, yes, ask anyone who has been on the receiving end of one of these charities and they are sure to tell you he made a difference outside the entertainment industry. Even our own House of Representives are resolving to recognizes Michael Jackson as a global humanitarian and a noted leader in the fight against worldwide hunger and medical crises. Here's a link to the resolution http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hr600/text it describes in detail things he did outside the realm of entertainment. Please, let us give some credit where credit is due.
AIDS Project L.A.
American Cancer Society
Angel Food
Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles
BMI Foundation, Inc.
Brotherhood Crusade
Brothman Burn Center
Camp Ronald McDonald
Childhelp U.S.A.
Children's Institute International
Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund
Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation
Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)
Dakar Foundation
Dreamstreet Kids
Dreams Come True Charity
Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation
Juvenile Diabetes Foundation
Love Match
Make-A-Wish Foundation
Minority Aids Project
Motown Museum
NAACP
National Rainbow Coalition
Rotary Club of Australia
Society of Singers
Starlight Foundation
The Carter Center's Atlanta Project
The Sickle Cell Research Foundation
Transafrica
United Negro College Fund (UNCF)
United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope
Volunteers of America
Watts Summer Festival
Wish Granting
YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw
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I would think it tacky to say anything to someone who didn't ask.
I just received an invitation to my cousin's 6 y.o. dd's bday in the mail. The next day she followed up with a group email of very precise list of presents to buy. I did not ask for this. The presents are not education or even art specific just random in my opinion "junk" toys. I may have thought different if it was just a general category. She claims this is dd's wish list but it sounds an awful lot like my cousin to me. Anyhow I thought it was just plain tacky and out of spite :rolleyes: I'm going to get the child something I know she enjoyed playing with at my house with my daughter one day (which I know Mom said was okay to play with).
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I started my dd with English from the Roots up, then Latin for Children primer a,b, and c then we will move on the Latin Alive then Wheelock's Latin. Though Latin for Children A has one or two quotes from the bible and one prayer for translation, I don't find it a problem.
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No matter how poor I got I will never forget the sights I have seen in war riddled, starving, and oppressed countries nor pass judgment on those who did whatever it took to keep their children and themselves alive.
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The one thing I have never been able to un-see is a BIG, hairy, bald, Italian guy in a tiny, white Speedo with a dark tan and gold chains. I often reflect on him when I think about beach attire and body image. With his tan, he sun bathed often. He was happy. He loved the sun and the beach.
;)
OMGosh he was in FL too! He gets around!
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Funny thing is I do not like tomatoes but I can grow them like nobody's business.... I can tomato sauce, dehydrate for sun dried, and my favorite...making tomato paste. I use a huge pot, like a canner, and cook the tomatoes down on low heat almost all day. Then run it though a mill to separate the seeds and skins. Put it back on low heat and reduce it as far down as you can without burning. You will need to stir frequently. Once it is very thick, like ketchup, I spread it out thin on large metal sheet pans. Place the pans on saw horses in the sun covered with cheese cloth. Bring it in a night, you can start combining pans at this point, then put it out the next day again. You will need a scrapper to turn the mixture every so often. Depending on how hot it is this whole process can take several days. You will not be sorry. 6 gallons of tomatoes are condensed into the most sweet, tangy, flavorful tomato ball the size of a softball. Old timers kept this ball covered in olive oil in a crock. One full tablespoon will flavor an entire family sized stew. Yum, yum, yum...:drool5:
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Congratulations! Good job to you mom! What test was it? I've been waiting not so patiently for our CAT's.
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Not for me I'm a chicken but a friend of mine lost her 3 yo son in a horrible car accident and later had the most beautiful ankle bracelet tattooed with charms of his name, b-day, etc. Very poignant!
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Huh? I was having a good read and then ...... :lol:
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Next the DVD's.
Lively Latin does not have this feature.
Latin for Children has a sample of their DVD. I've watched it several time and I like how the kids help along with the chants. BUT I don't like how fast they go, and I have a tough time getting "into" the LFC teacher. I believe ( I maybe wrong) but the LFC DVD teaches Classical Pronuncation even though they have an Ecclesiastical chant CD. I maybe wrong about that but I don't see an optional Ecclesiastical DVD. With hearing both Classical and Ecclesiastical I prefer the sound of Ecclesiastical( more Italian) then I do Classical. Not sure why. That's just me. With that said we use Song School Latin by the makers of LFC and I do very much like this course. I just can't seem to get into their upper level programs for some reason.
I think your choice depends on your goals for Latin. Are you interested in learning Latin for better understanding of the English language and vocabulary or are you planning to go all the way and hope for fluent reading and translation?
We are using Latin for Children and are enjoying it. Yes, it does move fast, but there is no reason in the Grammar stages you can't slow it down. Yes, it does give out more vocabulary than other programs. It is what they call a "reading" driven program. It does offer classical and ecclesiastical pronounciation on the DVD and the CD's. I learned ecclesiastical in high school but the majority of classical studies at a university level uses classical. I would say that classical is a bit more useful for law and medicine studies as well. Overall we are very happy with LFC.
I understand some people using Lively Latin supplement with a "reading" type program like Lingua Latina or Ecce Romani.
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In these threads, I really should just back away after my first post and let it be.
Not everyone will accept the true religion. If everyone did, then their would be no need for a great war of the almighty.
In the case of someone honestly not hearing the good news, I would assume that God has it under control. One of his outstanding qualities is justice. Either they will hear it before the end, or afterwards. It is my belief that when people have died without ever hearing the truth about God or Jesus they will hear about it after the resurrection.
All is good. And I do respect your point of view. :001_smile: I myself need to remember there are so many different beliefs and interuptaions of the bible within the Christian community that using "Christian" and "Christianity" may be a bit too encompassing and might even run into stereotyping. I apologize if it came across that way. :001_smile:
Northwesterners - travel advice needed
in General Education Discussion Board
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What kind of a budget are you on? Do you want to get some education in at the same time? You can really rack up the bucks in Seattle, but well worth it if you can. Otherwise WA has some of the most scenic geography, from mountains, lakes, islands, to beaches, plains, and semi-arid deserts. Also plenty to do; ferry rides through the San Juan's, hiking in the Cascades, river rafting on the Skykomish, clamming or crabbing on the Peninsula, Antique shopping in Snohomish. If only in Seattle for the day I'd say Pike's Place, Pioneer Square, EMP (Experience Music Project), Space Needle (the food isn't the best but if you're gonna pay to go up might as well get a discount on lunch), Pacific Science Center (lots of hands on science for the kiddos)... Oh my WA :w00t: