Zelda
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It was worth a shot.
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Thank you! I will await further instructions. :)
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Z is back!!! Come play with us!! We promise to share our toys. :001_smile:
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I really should. I'm nice now. :Angel_anim:
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Really enjoying ALL this year. After this week, we will be ready for more weeks than are currently available. I'm wondering how/when we would go about obtaining more of the lessons. Thanks for any assistance.
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So, yes, I think the progym. can easily be adapted for younger ages. I would recommend holding off CW-Aesop until about the 3rd or possibly 4th grade, when the child is reading well and when you've given them some experience with copywork and dictation.
I could not agree more. We started with CW-Aesop in 3rd (we are now in CW-Aesop B) and the difference in her writing from before and after is impressive. While the authors' overview of the progym can be dense, the explanations of how to implement the program are not and the workbooks provide even more guidance. Once you get going it becomes very easy to teach. And a good bit of grammar gets learned in the process. I've been very happy with it.
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From what I can tell, "snark" is no longer allowed.
Seriously? Are we trying to get into the Guinness Book of World Records for being the first message board ever to be free of snark? Because I think that's a great idea. No. Really.
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The question is legitimate because in the past we've been admonished to "go back to discussing home school" or words to that effect.
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When I approached the staff about it, and explained the concept ("pokey thingy, male; receptacle thingy, female"), one little gal just got the most hurt and confused look on her face and said, "But that's not intuitive!"
Sweet heavenly day! Please people. Teach your kids these terms and concepts before they get to university!
If you do this early enough its two, two, TWO lessons in one.
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So am I.
I would give all the education I *do* have to fill the gaps in virtue in my life. I wish I had both education and virtue. If wishes were horses...beggars would ride. Someone educated said that but I forget who because I am not educated.
It wasn't Mother Goose?
I don't know about your gaps in virtue but I've yet to see gaps in your logic, like ad hominem fallacies and such.
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Could it be that some equate the term uneducated with being stupid, rather than defining the word as not posessing a specific body of knowledge?
I admit to being guilty of that when reading the early pages of this thread.
I actually think some people just can't stand to admit that everyone isn't perfectly equal. So they take the word 'educated' and change the meaning so that everyone can wear it without doing all that exhausting reading. You know, someday I mean to be truly educated and I don't really want to be called educated until I've achieved it honestly. I'm okay with being things like "good with ______" or "knowledgeable about ______" until then.
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Well, you're certainly entitled to your own opinion......
Myself, I think that "educated" takes many shapes and forms and doesn't hinge on someone being familar with one specific author. :)
I don't believe in entitlements or relativism. :001_smile:
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If one does not have some knowledge of Poe then one is not well educated. One may be a very nice person who likes to think of themselves as educated but they're not educated. Just nice. Why isn't just nice good enough?
I'm enjoying people saying, on the one hand, that being industrious is just as good as being educated and then absolutely bristling when someone is called uneducated. The argument could be that being educated is not as important or is less important than other achievements or virtues but instead it became an argument that education has no definition and we are all educated in our own way. It just illustrates how much value is really placed on being educated. Some will acquire it and others will just assume the mantel but the difference will always be obvious.
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Maybe I'm just projecting, because I see this kind of thing so often. But it does seem to me that most people I run into are perfectly content to admit--nay, flaunt--their ignorance.
You get more attention/compassion/pity/praise in some circles for what you lack than what you achieve.
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By your definition of "educated". ;)
Yes, by an objective definition of 'educated' and not some loosey-goosey interpretation of education wherein no one would ever fall outside the definition of educated.
Don't worry, I'm a dying breed and the "New Age Feel Gooderies" have won the canon wars. And now you can get a "crocodile in spelling" instead of being judged by some archaic standard that doesn't matter in the real world where no one spells anything anymore anyway. KWIM? TTYL.
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Yes, and I'm not crazy about the threads where we sit around and chuckle about how poorly educated the masses are compared to us. They make me feel squirmy.
Barb
No, I don't like to laugh at people or judge their worth based upon how educated they are.
But I do judge how educated they are by certain standards like whether or not they have at least a passing familiarity with Poe.
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Since in most large US cities at least 1/3 of students don't graduate high school, I'm not sure how this applies in the real world. One can argue that eduction and schooling are not the same thing (and I do), but, call it what you will, this is a very real, and often insurmountable gap.
That doesn't address the fundamental question of what it means to be educated or what should comprise education. Do you think one can be educated but not have a great books education?
I don't understand how the first part relates to what I said.
I do not think that one can be educated and not know who Poe was. One may make great contributions to society with no knowledge of Poe but that will never make them educated.
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In a world where everything is equal and there can be no distinction between the educated and the uneducated for fear of hurt feelings, then there can be no standard by which to judge one's level of education. They might as well hand out diplomas with birth certificates.
But if one lived in a world where there could be some people who were educated and some people who weren't, in which the people who weren't accepted that they weren't then yes...there would be some body of knowledge that would be required in order to be considered educated.
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My life doesn't allow for much dressing up (or dressing up my girls) so I jump on it when given the chance. I would.
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Can you imagine how much effort it is to maintain relationships with groups of friends from several different geographic areas? And then also, groups of friends from different life areas. Every single one of them is worth the effort. Absolutely. But I only have so much time, and energy. Especially the energy.
These are all good points.
What's also nice about Facebook is that if I have some big news to share I can just post it there and not have to actually interface in any meaningful way with anyone.
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:D Ha! That made me laugh, Hillary.
It is funny but its also a good point. It seems like it would be more productive to ask the friends about it.
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Congrats and you have chosen one of my absolute favorite names.
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Someone once gave me a book by Og Mandino.
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Answering questions about Advanced Language Lessons
in Logic Stage & Middle Grade Challenges
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Thank you!