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I don't know why you think I'm joking. The data regarding organic food causing autism is certainly a clearer correlation, and based on better sourced data, than anything you've presented in this thread vis-a- vis vaccines.
So, out of one side of your mouth, you claim that "correlation does not equal causation." Then, out of the other side, you claim that "no correlation equals no causation." You can't have it both ways.
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This post explains what HFT is, and why some people don't think highly of it. It's basically making money off of computer manipulation. To each his own.
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It probably doesn't have anything to do with the appetite issue, but just wanted to let you know that our neurologist has us supplement with B6 because the drug depletes it. Some people have seen this help with mood/behavioral side effects.
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I'm going to bring up neurodevelopmental therapy. It is controversial. I have not tried it myself. However, I have several friends who had tried it and are convinced it has helped their children. One thing many of them have done under the therapist's guidance is making the change from using the right to the left hand. I can think of three kids off the top of my head who did this very successfully, though of course there was an adjustment period. They were all over age ten I believe. One is now an art student. :)
Just something to think about in case you ever wanted to try it.
ETA: I have one with very poor visual memory in some areas. I remember one are was less than the first percentile. She also did very well in school and was never considered in need of services. I wish I had done a np eval with her earlier. I would recommend taking the score and the report to another np who could go over the scores with you and give you some insight since the report sound like a dud. BTW, a specialist who looked at my dd's report started laughing due to the same "cut and paste" element that you described.
Is there a certain type of therapist, or just what would be considered an OT? Thanks for the info., it's very interesting.
ETA: I think I have my own reading problem - I read it first as neurodevelopmental theory - now I see it says neurodevelopmental therapist - answers my question!
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You wrote: 'Also, in a "speeded task of manual dexterity" she scored in the <1% with her dominant hand, and in the 32% with her left.'
Which really raises a question about whether she may in fact be left handed?
Which really deserves further consideration?
I had her write some words & draw some shapes with each hand today. Her right hand was significantly better, but I guess that would be expected since she has been using it all along. When she was writing with her right hand, she didn't anchor the paper with her left - this has been an ongoing battle. When she wrote with her left hand, she did anchor it with her right. I found that interesting.
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Welcome!
No specific response to the above. geodob knows far more than I do about those test results.
But I do have a few questions that might give some of us that peruse this board some ideas on how to help.
1. What have you been using to try and help her with her learning? Curriculum? Remediation techniques?
2. And where is she struggling, specifically? What are you observing?
3. Besides the neuropshych evaluation, has she had any other evals? Like an eye exam through a Developmental Optometrist (NOT a normal eye doctor).
Have you read any books on struggling learners?
The Mislabeled Child by Brock and Fernette Eide
Homeschooling Your Struggling Learner by Kathy Kuhl (SIL sometimes posts on TWTM forums)
How to Homeschool Your Learning Abled Child by Sandra Cook (sometimes posts on this board)
There are many others but these come to mind off the top of my head.
As the parent of two kids with special learning issues (dyslexia, dysgraphia, possible dyscalculia, heterophoria, etc.) there were times when I, too, felt like I wasn't going to be able to help them. But we found ways and they are both really turning things around. Don't get too discouraged. Keep searching. Give the posters here more info and read up as much as you can. I have found a lot of info in unusual locations (and through many wonderful people on this board).
Best wishes.
Thank you for your response. We did Writing 8's a couple of years ago, and that did help a bit. She is 12 now, and doing well in math. We are using Teaching Textbooks 7. She does use the 1/2 inch graph paper to help her line things up and has occasional issues with word problems. She struggles with writing the most. Her writing is fairly neat, she just can't do a lot of it. She prefers to hunt and peck on the computer. I plan to have her learn keyboarding at some point. Her writing struggle is more to do with getting coherent thoughts on paper. She does OK reading, but is very slow, and hates to read aloud with a passion. She does better with larger print.
When we started homeschooling, we went through Phonics Pathways (to remediate the whole word guessing that was going on), WWE 1 & 2, and FLL 3. She did OK with WWE, not great. We are still progressing through the Spelling Workout series, and added in Wordly Wise for vocab. We are also currently working through the Killgallon Sentence Composing for Elementary School at a very slow pace. I need to break it into small chunks to not overwhelm her. I am leaning towards IEW for next near, but am very open to suggestions.
We did see a Developmental Optometrist in 2011. We bought the Chromagen lenses that seemed to help at the time. DD HATED wearing them and it became a problem. Her anxiety with them on at school interfered with her learning. Did I mention she was headstrong too? Ugh. I recently had her do some reading with and without them on, tracking her errors. I don't know if she knew how to play it - I didn't tell her up front what I was doing - but there seemed to be no difference with them on or off.
I have not read any of those books, but I will certainly start. The problem I have is figuring out what to even call what she has. Her primary problem is epilepsy, so I don't know what is brain related or medication related. I don't know what is fixed and what is changeable. I need to narrow the scope and focus on her specific issues, but I don't even know what to call them to look for answers. The NP Evaluators did not help in that regard. Quite frankly, from what I've read on this forum, the moms have far more practical knowledge than the "professionals" that I dealt with. I know I can do more for her than the school was, but I keep having this sinking feeling that I might be missing something that could really help her. Thank you for your time and input, I appreciate it!
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The Rey Test is a combined test of visual and spacial thinking.
To copy a drawing, requires holding an image of the drawing in the mind, and tests visual thinking.
Then to actually draw it, uses spatial thinking, to control and direct the hand in drawing it.
So that the question is whether she had a difficulty with holding a visual image of it in her mind?
Or a difficulty with drawing it?
Or even a difficulty with both?
But the Recognition test doesn't involve drawing, and just tests Visual Memory.
So that her score on the Recognition test, indicates that she has a difficulty with retaining and recalling a visual image, from memory?
Thanks for your reply. I went through the write-up looking for some answers, here are a couple of excerpts:
"Memory performance is variable, greater weakness on tasks requiring more organizational skills"
"More difficulty with visual memory tasks with a drawing component"
Some other things of note:
They showed me one of her drawings that had a 90 degree rotational error, it was kind of shocking.
With visual memory of scenes, she was in the 63rd percentile. This dropped to the 9th when it came to geometric figures.
Also, in a "speeded task of manual dexterity" she scored in the <1% with her dominant hand, and in the 32% with her left.
I don't know if this provides more clues or more questions, thanks again.
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I have been reading about the importance of evaluations on this forum, so I dug out my daughter's old neuro psych. We had this done when she was in school, we pulled her to homeschool about a year ago. The school did not provide her with any services, claiming that she fell into the "average" range in her school subjects. Can anyone tell me what these scores could indicate and if there is anything I can do to help my daughter?
Rey complex Figure Test and Recognition Trial
T Score %ile
Copy Trial - <1
Time to Copy - >16
Immediate Recall 33 4
Delayed Recall 25 1
Recognition 23 <1
Please be brutally honest. The Rey complex was the worst section. This was not addressed in detail in the summary or recommendations sections. In fact, the write up appears to have some cutting and pasting going on. In one section they used "his" instead of "hers." They also suggested something to help with repetitive behaviors, when it was noted correctly in another section that she has no repetitive behaviors. So, if anyone could help salvage any useful information from the raw data, I would really appreciate it.
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I have an older child playing catch-up with the level 4 book. I did not buy the TM. I guess it depends on how much time you have for correcting the work. I have to read the passage to be able to correct the comprehension question section.
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Our hot water heater with a lifetime warranty started leaking last year, it was 7 years old. My husband had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get them to replace it. Well, just noticed yesterday that the ONE YEAR OLD tank is leaking!! I'm very glad his head did not explode, yet.
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We bought ours from Piggy Bedspreads to fit a C & C cage. My daughter sweeps it once a day, and I wash it once a week. I usually rinse it as much as I can in the laundry sink before putting it in the washing machine.
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I have a package of the Sea Salt Pumpkin Seeds from this company & it says Made in the USA on the front. They also sell by the pound. Some of the flavors sound interesting. They are also allergy friendly/safe for peanut tree-nut allergy folks.
https://www.mygerbs.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=32
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My sister has a family of 6 and just went in August. They stayed onsite at the new Art of Animation resort. It is mostly family suites & they really enjoyed it. My family has been in early December and the crowds aren't bad, and the decorations are beautiful. They have the Osborne Family lights at Hollywood Studios & a retelling of the Christmas story at Epcot with an orchestra & huge choir.
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Wow! Some very smart peeps on this board. Now, I would be interested in seeing the stats on parents education levels as a whole in the homeschooling world, and especially, of those jumping ship on ps education in the recent years. I know of 4 families that pulled kids from our zoned elementary school and middle school just this year to homeschool.
We pulled our DD in February. I have a BA in Economics with a minor in Business Administration. DH has a BS in Finance and an MBA.
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I can't see how that could be true. Supposedly there's peanut oil in vaccines, and this peanut oil causes peanut allergies, yet somehow kids with life-threatening peanut allergies don't have any kind of allergic reaction to vaccines? How does that work? Seems like a stretch.
It's like Russian roulette - there is not supposed to be any protein left in the oil, but contamination happens. This Nobel Award winning scientist figured it out in 1913: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1913/richet-lecture.html
He figured out how to create anaphylactic allergies in dogs so he could study them.
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We have never had a problem with anything with the "manufactured in a facility" warning, but I have never let her have anything with the "manufactured on equipment" warning.
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I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with the CC? This kind of stuff bugs me to no end. Someone has a personal anecdote about something that happened in a public school that they disagreed with, therefore public schools are all bad, therefore CC must be bad too. Just once I'd like to see people debate the actual content of the standards.
When it comes down to it, personal anecdotes reflect what is *actually* happening in a location as a result of what is being called "education reform" in my state. CC is a part of that. I have a friend who works in a neighboring school district. Their students routinely test near the top in our state. They have recently fired their middle school librarians because the kids don't have time to go because of new initiatives. This is just one story about a district that doesn't appear to need any reform, but there are many other strange changes afoot. I am not going to ignore or discount what I see going on around me, because it is how these standards are actually manifesting in the schools that matters.
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Before I watch the video, I would like to share a couple of things that popped into my head while reading the OP.
About 8 years ago, I started taking some classes in a teacher certification program. It was for people who already had degrees, and wanted to get certified to teach high school. I had to write a lesson plan in one of the classes, and they made it pretty clear what they were looking for. Have you heard of the example of the teacher telling the class that there was a study that showed people who have brown eyes (or blue) are smarter? It provokes an emotional response that is used as part of the lesson. They say that it helps the students to learn & remember. Well, I made up a lesson plan with a similar "trick" and got an A. I could do it because I would never actually use it on kids, but I have to say I felt pretty dirty afterwards. That was the last class I took.
I currently homeschool, but when my daughter was in 4th grade at PS I did not let her go on a field trip. It was from 8:30am to 8:30pm, during February in New England, in the woods. They used the hours after dark for role-playing time. The children played escaped slaves and were chased by "slave catchers" through the woods. This just blew my mind on many levels. First, how disrespectful is it to ancestors of slaves for a bunch of white kids to "play" escaped slave? Second, this is another example of appealing to the emotions of students. I assume they wanted to foster compassion by scaring them in the dark. I feel there are many more productive ways to foster compassion. Lastly, the thought of a bunch of 10 year old kids running through the woods in the dark in the middle of winter is an accident waiting to happen. The area is a preserve with thousands of acres.
Kids that are used to getting their emotional chain yanked at school will be primed to fall for propaganda in the future. Part of the reason I was drawn to homeschooling was to help foster critical thinking and avoid the education-through-emotion that seems to be gaining momentum - but they will never call it what it is, as they continue to claim they are teaching critical thinking skills.
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Can't smell you from here LOL! Your daughter sounds a lot like mine. We just pulled her from PS in February (5th grade)
We are working through Phonics Pathways, trying to extinguish the whole-word guessing habit. Her biggest struggle so far has been with the words you mention, like caned/canned & moped/mopped. I think it has been helping. We backed up & started with Spelling Workout C, it is working well. I can already see that having her home is really starting to fill in many holes from her PS days. I think there were many things she totally missed due to distractions. Sorry I don't have more to add, I'm pretty new at this!
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Thank you! I'll check them out.
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I just began homeschooling my daughter in February, and I need help building her vocabulary. She is doing very well with the Spelling Workout C workbook & doesn't hate it. She is 11, and is behind with reading and writing. Is there a good, systematic, workbook-type program for vocabulary, similar to the Spelling Workout series? She likes things very concrete, and also likes simple, non-distracting page layouts. I would probably start her at a 4th grade level, and work at a faster pace. That's the approach that is working with the Spelling Workout series.
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If you do the CAT, you're probably doing it yourself. I'd be tempted to see how she does within the time limits. If she doesn't finish, I'd keep a record of how far she got, and then give her 50% more time and then stop. I'd send it in with the extra time allowed because that would be a better representation of her actual achievement.
50% more time means if the test is supposed to take 20 minutes, you give 30. 50% more time is the typical allowance. However, it is possible to get double time if a need is demonstrated.
Already knowing there's a processing speed issue, this method would give you helpful information to let you know if it is necessary, beyond a doubt, to get any evaluations done so you can officially get extended time on future tests. This is very important to keep in mind if you're getting close to high school and will need to take the SAT or ACT. You can also incorporate this knowledge into your curriculum planning.
Thank you! That is very helpful.
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Hello all! I just started homeschooling in February. I am considering the CAT for end of year testing. My daughter has processing speed issues, related to an epilepsy diagnosis. Can I just give her extra time on the test, or is there some process I have to go through?
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My Block Island people are the Dodge family crew there. I started reading about the history on the island last night and was honestly just so grossed out by it I had to stop. The slaughter that occurred there is beyond comprehension.
In my husbands family, turns out they developed a settlement to protect the Indian lands, and any of the migration that passed through and didn't vamoose were force-ably burned out of their homes. In about a decade after though, the lands were opened for legal land grants to the migrants anyway.
All that suffering for nothing.
I found a Hessian soldier in his line as well. They were so cheesy. Really.
Are you talking about what the French pirates did, or something else? It doesn't sound like fun reading, but if you have a link, I would like to check it out. Thanks!
Peanut allergies and a possible way to avoid them
in The Chat Board
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It seems like injections/vaccinations could be a culprit for some people. https://foodallergycauses.wordpress.com/2014/10/15/evidence-and-mechanism-of-vaccines-causing-food-allergies-asthma-and-type-i-diabetes/