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Janet and Nan,
You've nailed my trepidation on the head in regards to her transferring in as anything other than a freshman! Thank you for your BTDT perspectives. You've conveyed exactly what I so ineptly could not. There's something intangible, but nevertheless important, about coming in as a freshman and taking those foundational classes with other freshmen; the people you'll spend the next four years with - a sort of bonding experience.
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I can no longer eat red meat, but pork, buffalo, ostrich, chicken, fish are all okay. Beef puts me in the fetal position for hours.
Nothing else bothers me.
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You won't have any choice in the matter. You will be required to submit the cc transcript to universities to which she applies, and the university which she eventually attends will decide if/how they count the cc credits toward the degree she'll be seeking at that university.
Yes, but an admissions person told us she could write a letter with her request for not accepting the credits as college credits and they would consider the request. As an aside, one person in particular told us that her letter would carry a lot of weight, given that most colleges/universities don't want to accept transfer credit anyway. It means loss of $$ to them for classes not taken by dd.
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I plan on submitting the grades and the transcript from both high school and the CC to the colleges she applies to. However, dd is writing a letter asking them specifically to not accept the credits as college credits, just to accept them as high school courses. Many of the more demanding colleges she's applying to will not accept transfer courses of any kind any way, but for the ones that will she's asking them not to.
I have no intention of not disclosing her college courses or grades; that was never my intention. I WANT to show that she's capable of doing college level work and showing grades on her high school transcript that didn't come from me. I just don't want the college/university she ends up attending giving her credit for them. My goal (and my dd's too) is that she goes to the college/university as a freshman.
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is that I'm pretty sure I don't want any of her dual enrollment courses to count as college courses. I'm more interested in showing that she can do college level work, outside the home. So, between her AP classes and these college classes I hopefully have that base covered and mommy grades won't come into question.
The CC she's attending is not what I would call academically challenging (e.g. the minimum SAT score for admittance is 960 if that gives you an inkling) and the schools my dd wants to apply to are considered extremely challenging. I would rather she go in as an incoming freshman and have the whole "college experience" and use that time to mature as well. There's absolutely no reason I can identify why she should hurry through college.
As to how my transcript is organized: Up until this year I homeschooled year round, which allowed my dc to progress at a faster pace (no need for weeks of review before beginnng the next level). Dd breezed through Alg. 1, and then took Alg. 2 and Geometry concurrently (which took another 8 months and 7 months respectively). Precalculus took a normal school year to complete. I did not organize my transcript by grade level/year, but by subject, which made the most sense for us.
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Did the chalkdust list any Trig in her course last year? I know my son took a precalc type course his junior year, but it was actually called Functions, Statistics, and Trig. Could you rename the course you gave her last year?? I would hate to not have a math listed too, when most colleges are looking for 4 yrs. of math. Will she be taking another math at the cc this year? We have counted one semester of cc as a year-long high school course...so if she was taking another math in the spring you could just list that math on the transcript. Does that make sense??
HTH
She'll be taking Calculus I in the Spring, but the dilemma is that the colleges/universities she's applying to would see Precalculus on her College transcript for dual enrollment and her high school transcript. I suppose I could rename her home course "Advanced Algebra and Trigonometry," which is what the course is comprised of. She's already had Algebra I, II, and Geometry, so Precalculus completed the four courses; now she'll add Precalculus, Calculus I, II, and III from the CC (she's a junior in high school this year, so she'll be taking more courses next year).
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:hurray::hurray:
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Okay, here's the deal: Last year, dd took Precalculus at home with me (using Chalkdust) and I, of course, put that on her transcript along with her grade and one credit. This year, Dd began attending CC this Fall and one of her classes is Precalculus (the CC has a strange rule about this - Dd has the ACT score to start at Precalculus - which is as high as they'll let anyone start who hasn't had AP Calculus).
So, my question is thus: Do I let dd keep both Precalculus courses on her transcript or will that look strange? She would end up with the one credit from last year, and the grade and one credit from her class this Fall (as it's stands now, both grades would be A's). Or, do I delete last year's Precalculus and let the one from the CC stand? (It bugs me that basically she would not have a math credit from last year - all her hard work for the whole year basically erased.)
Has anyone else had to deal with this with your dc? What did you do? How did the colleges/universities your dc applied to view it?
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Personally, I use a basic 4.0 system--no pluses or minuses. It is simple and everyone grasps it.
My two cents.
Jane
:iagree: I don't give extra weight to honor's classes, but I do give an extra half point for an AP class (e.g. 4.5). As we're in the visiting colleges and talking to admissions officers point, I can tell you that everyone we've talked to thus far throws out extra points given for honors classes (because "honors" is too subjective). AP points vary from college to college.
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For me, the proof is in the puddin'. Until parents who use LOF exclusively start reporting on SAT or ACT results, the jury is still out on whether it's a complete program or not. I'm a bottom line kind of person (I had 10 graduate level stats courses in pursuit of my Ph.D.) so I have to have proof.
If the author thinks his stats book is worth two college semesters, then the students who use his book for that would do well to sit for the AP stats exam. I would definitely like to hear back from those who pursue this further.
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I think there are a couple of considerations here.
First, what does the author/publisher think about the program? If they think it's a complete program on its own, do they have numbers (such as students who have used their program exclusively and then taken a standardized test such as the ACT or SAT) to back up their claim?
Some programs are complete programs, but intended for students not considering degrees in engineering or physics (just to name a couple) or other math heavy degrees. If the publisher/author does not have numbers to back up claims of a complete program, then I would seriously look at my dc and what degree or area of interest they're considering in college. If you're going to err on the side of caution with a high schooler who's looking at a math heavy degree, I would probably consider a more "rigorous" program (i.e. one with lots and lots of practice problems and the types of problem presentation they will encounter in a college level math class).
As always, just my $.02.
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As we're in the college visitation stage, I'm finding it interesting that colleges/universities are starting to limit the number of AP classes they will give credit for. For instance, Duke loves to see AP courses on a student's transcript, but will only accept two classes for credit given.
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just to go through the accreditation program myself after calling many umbrella schools. With some of their requirements I felt like they would be stifling my academic freedom to choose which courses my children take and when.
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I think one of the best gifts my parents gave me when growing up was this...my father said if ever I didn't want to do anything I could simply say that my father would kill me/punish me until I was 80/ etc... This gave me a very convenient out even if it was something my parents had not thought to expressly address with me!
I have done the same with my DD. I told her she can always blame her big, bad mother when she feels she is being pressured to do something she doesn't want to do. Sometimes it is too hard for a kid to say "no" or "I don't want to" but it is easy to blame it on the parents!
My dd is 16 now and is attending her first semester in college, where peer pressure in lots of things is increased. She still uses me as the bad guy when needed and I'm happy to perform that role. Overall, though, she's handling it quite well. The latest vocab word I've taught her to use is "jail bait." LOL
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I enjoy keeping up with family and friends on the big stuff (news, awards, - you know, the important stuff). I also like that people post funny videos - things that make me laugh.
I absolutely HATE that people use it to post what they're doing at that moment or about to do. My SIL posted she was about to get her toes done (a pedicure). Who the flip cares? And she's not the only one. It seems that some people are so narcissistic that they actually believe others give a da## about their little day to day activities. I'm still waiting for the one where someone reports they're sitting on the toilet.
Like I said. It's a love/hate thing. I actually "hide" some people's comments if they are getting too personal or too political or too religious.
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We had our cabinet maker make the front for our refrigerator. This way, the wood matched the rest of our cabinets. It is well done and looks like a piece of furniture rather than a frig.
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Hi Bev, if I remember correctly, one of your kids took a class from Scholars Online in science. Although there are some cons to SO, my dd retained tons from the AP bio class. Did your kids learn as well from the Thinkwell videos?
Yes, my dd did quite well on the AP Bio test (scored a 4). She took the Thinkwell Chemistry course last year and used a textbook I selected with it and TTC Chemistry videos. She took the SAT Chem test and did well and is now dual enrolled and taking Chem I (for science majors, which is somehow different than Chem I for non-science majors :001_huh:). She is maintaining an "A" in the class without having to study overly much. She also did really well on the science portion of the ACT.
Would I recommend SO's science classes, yes, but with conditions. I wouldn't recommend the AP class the way it was done with my dd's class (perhaps they've changed how the class is conducted since?). The class didn't even finish the textbook before the AP test. My dd had to read ahead of the class on her own in order to be prepared for the AP test (which also left very little time for review). I absolutely plan on using them again for science and am currently using them for Literature (American Lit and Western Lit) and Latin II (and have used them for World History, World Lit, and Latin I in the past). I love SO and the people who run it. They do an excellent job and are very easy to work with. The teachers are very good and know their subjects.
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Both of my children either have used or are currently using Thinkwell.
Additionally, think about The Teaching Company. (https://www.teach12.com)
In addition to using Thinkwell's Biology program (which, by the way, is cheaper through the Homeschool Buyers Coop - which is free to join), my son is watching TTC's Biology DVD series on Biology: The Life of Science. Watch for their sales, you can save a lot of money.
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Right now, I have about 100 books on my Kindle. I enjoy going back and rereading some of my favs. It's great to be able to pick and choose when I want, and get a new book on the spot if I want one. At the doctor's office this morning I was able to shop for and purchase a new book to read while waiting in the waiting room.
Fantastic device!
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Rule #1: Mom is always right.
Rule #2: When in doubt, refer to rule #1.
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She took TT's Geometry and Saxon's Algebra II the same year. I know people who use Saxon the whole way through and then claim the geometry credit and I'm not bashing them, but I couldn't - in good conscience - give a grade on her transcript for a course that was integrated like that.
Dd completed one lesson in each per day for the entire school year and had a full load of other classes (including an AP class). She was very busy, but it IS doable. As someone else mentioned above, they really are quite separate topics, so treat them as individual subjects (much like you would do with perhaps history and math).
After taking these two subjects together, dd took the ACT and scored in the top 10% nationally, so I don't think we made a mistake.
Whether a dc can take these two subjects together is really quite an individual thing. While my dd (who is a hard worker by nature) did it, my ds who followed behind her one year later could not handle the workload and we ended up dropping Algebra II until this year.
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We have not used any of TT's other programs, but my dc used TT and were happy with it. If the proof's in the puddin', my dd scored in the top 5% nationally on the ACT math portion after taking TT Geometry and Algebra 2 (not TT). She went on to Larson's Precalculus and did well.
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My children and I frequently listen to audio books in the car. We have recently listened to Witch of Blackbird Pond, Sign of the Beaver, The Hobbit, Lion Boy trilogy, Coraline, City of Ember, and Little Women.
We all love the Harry Potter series and have read and/or listened to all seven multiple times.
We have a road trip planned (8-9 hours each way) with dh.
He drives frequently for business and also listens to books on tape. Being without children, he listens to adult oriented books, often a mystery or non-fiction.
I am looking for something that we would all enjoy. The children are 14 and 11.
Thank you!
Tracie
Christopher Paolini's Eragon series (there are three books so far). My 14 yo ds still likes to listen to them occasionally.
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It must feel like a deep sigh that you've gotten one so far - taking some of the pressure off. Congratulations to you both! Well done.
computer programing
in High School and Self-Education Board
Posted · Edited by Bev in B'ville
disclaimer
My son took a course from Derek Otieno (who previously taught AP Computer Science through Pennsylvania Homeschoolers). Here's his information:
My web site is: www.acit.us.com
My phone number is: (678) 677-2517
Please, have your friends call me first so that I can help them navigate the choices.
Derek
My son loved the courses he took (he took Web Design I and II). He will take AP Computer Science with Derek probably next year.
Edited: Just a note: These courses are not intended for middle schoolers. They are true high school level courses. They require 1-2 hours per day and the classes are discussion based (conference calls) which requires interaction at a higher level. Some middle school level students signed up for the classes my ds was in and not one of them finished the class.