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  1. We have not had xmas with the in-laws yet, however, I am dreading it because of the gifts my mil gives. One year I got a used book on the geology of Arizona, another year I recieved 2 really ugly bright red pillows from the used store that smelled horrible, my 15 yr old son got a used girl's shirt, and the list goes on. I hate having all eyes on me when I open the gift because I'm not good at faking it.

    Are they being passive-aggressive or just clueless? So bad!

  2. To answer a question, I have two teens and two younger kids. I think to them I am "mom" instead of a person. We are all close, but I am going to make sure they are taught about giving. They are generally very polite, well behaved kids. I am going to take some of the suggestions offered here. Thank you!

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  3. So many years I have been in your shoes. :grouphug: I have literally sat through multiple Christmas mornings while everyone in my family and my extended family got multiple gifts where I got nothing - or maybe one or two things. My mother accidentally (on purpose) forgot to get me a gift quite a few times. Of course this is the woman who repeatedly forgot my birthday - and my youngest sister and I were born.on.the.same.day. :glare:

     

    This year my youngest got me something and my sisters both! gave me a gift card. (To be fair the older two children are both broke college students and they are doing some remodeling/painting for me.)

     

    It made a big difference to even have a few gifts though! I have to admit that a petty little part of me almost didn't get dh anything this year. Instead I got him a REALLY nice gift this year. That was even better, lol.

     

     

    I think you are right to not be polite about it. I think If I had been less polite over the years, things would have been better. Next year I am going to buy my own *#&*@ presents - with his money. Oh yeah! lol.

    I'm sorry you are in a circumstance like mine! I love that you are taking control of the situation!

  4. (((Lisbeth)))

    Thank you for the validation. I feel guilty for being upset. So many people have it worse. Some people have no homes or food. I know it's a first world problem. But this goes on year after year. I stopped reading FB around Christmas or Mother's Day! So depressing! I am enjoying everyone's stories on this thread. You all are handling your disappointments with such good humor. Making me feel better.

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  5. Let me explain a little, my posts are confusing. I have been direct, but the cheerfully just accepted when saying I want a little token goes nowhere. This year, after years of it, I am not being gracious. I am actually not going to allow being about giving, not receiving, not being greedy, etc, all of the polite things be cover for adults who take and never give back. Tiredof being polite about it. Honestly the saddest is it robs me of my love of giving, because giving to the adults in my life now makes me feel like a doormat or a sucker when I am never considered in return.

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  6. I so appreciate your response. My parents are a narc/enabler team, and I was their miserable, scapegoat only child. I have told my dh multiple times- in fact, finding me later in tears, I was told by him that Christmas is for kids. I notice he doesn't turn down the $200 cash gift from his mom to him yearly even though "Christmas is for kids." The truth is, my kids I can't fault, but otherwise I am surrounded by jerks. I need to fix that. I am very direct, but it doesn't matter.

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  7. I got absolutely nothing. As in, not a homemade drawing from a kid, nothing from dh, nothing from my parents. I usually get pretty much nothing and try to be not petty, but I am tired of being the bigger person. It hurts. It shows just what people think of me.

  8. I've had to shush one of mine about coffee and alcohol.  As Mormons we are taught not to partake in either.  One of my kids is particularly a "by the book" type of kid and when small (5ish, I think), more than once said something like, "Mom, look, they are drinking coffee!" in a shocked (and loud) tone.  I had to explain that not everyone abstains, that quite a few people drink coffee and alcohol and it's none of our business. 

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  9. I don't think number of kids in a family should matter one way or another in a conversation about whether it is appropriate for a four year old to be alone at a particular distance from mom and for a particular amount of time.  It should be, in my mind, a consideration from the point of view of the whether it is safe for the child, period. If it is safe for a four year old, fine, it is safe.  If it is not safe, then it applies whether mom thinks she is too busy or not. 

     

    That said, I still don't know that I would make this LAW.  I just would not leave *my* 4 year old unattended.  I don't think I would call the police for this...but I would be really uneasy seeing a small child out unattended outside.

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  10. I tend to go for candy, jewelry, and gift cards (amazon/steam/whatever).  Sometimes smaller toys (Skylander characters, shopkins, ...). 

    I stopped doing anything that is purely filler.  I hate cheap, junky stuff that is just there because it's small and works in a stocking.  The main reasons I hate those things are 1. no one really wants them and 2. they just add to clutter for no good reason.  I also don't ever put necessities in as gifts.

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  11. There are some emerging elite athletes on vegetarian and vegan diets.  I see a lot of them on blogs, instagram, selling books, in news articles, etc.  Maybe if you start looking into some of them (I wish I could just name them off for you but I am not into sports, etc., enough to know their names) - they probably have diet ideas on some of their sites.  I would look into that and see if you can find some good ideas.

     

    The meat-free part jumps out to me, because I keep reading over and over from various athletes how their endurance and recovery times in various sports have improved by removing meat and dairy.  That's why I would start there.

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  12. Yes, and in past threads we've seen people feeling hurt when they have gone out of their way to accommodate, and the allergic person doesn't eat the special meal anyway, because they don't trust it.  Totally understandable, so why guilt the host into trying?  The host is very busy (or is that just my experience?).

     

    I'm talking about big traditional meals like Thanksgiving / Christmas / Easter.  If it's just a small deal with the family of the allergic person, I could see trying to make a meal that everyone could eat, because you wouldn't also be trying to please several other families at the same time.

     

    Food allergies are really awkward.  Here is what it is like for us:  my daughter is so very highly allergic and tested via the components test to be anaphylactic to peanuts.  Peanuts can be so deadly for her in tiny amounts that having a bunch of it in dishes is pretty dangerous even if she doesn't eat it.  Soy, on the other hand, is not that way for her so it can be in things and not pose the same risk as long as she doesn't eat it.  So if someone insists that they want us to attend a dinner or whatever, then we say please no overt peanuts in things, and we'll bring her meal otherwise.  Usually that works out ok.  We let them know she still can't eat the food but would love the enjoyment of their company with her own meal.

     

    On a few awful occasions people have gone out of their way to keep things out of dishes for her and then she has gotten horribly sick the night before or day of, (like hurling sick with a high fever) and can't go to the event.  NOW THAT is really embarrassing.  It's only happened a few times, since she is now an older teen and she has had her allergies since around age 1.

     

    We tend to avoid food-related events and do our own thing, and find other ways to be with people.  Because, yeah, it can be so awkward.

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  13. I won't accommodate that.  And this is not because I'm mean or that I don't care.  The problem is that I cannot be certain that I have not contaminated the food with the allergy causing ingredient.  I'd have to thoroughly sanitize all of my equipment. I'd have to read every label of every item I'm using to be sure it doesn't have the ingredient.  I really just can't do that.  I suppose what I could do is buy something packaged that is already made that states it is allergy free.  I'd be willing to do that.

     

    As the mother of a highly allergic child to multiple items, I respect that you know your limitations.  We just would not attend, with no hard feelings on our side.  Where it becomes a problem is when family members try to guilt us to attend even though they feel as you do.  Then the fighting and resentment begins.

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  14. Team don't go.  Be a model of self-respect.  Let them howl and guilt trip all they want.  If they want to put dysfunction on a pedestal, let them reap the fallout of that choice all on their own. 

     

    I refuse to be a prop in the annual "we're just a big, happy, normal family" performance that my MIL wants to put on.  I think she wants to mainly get pictures and "proof" of how happy and together her (scary, scary) family is.  Several family members are actively mentally unstable or not people I want my kids to be around for other behavioral reasons.  So yeah, in her mind I am the "difficult" one who wants to "ruin" her holiday.  The one who refuses to rugsweep often gets more venom and blame than the actual sources of the issues in the family. 

     

    I'm ok with that.  "I don't care what you think about me, I don't think about you at all." - Coco Chanel.   Yes, I have a bunch of quotes I use to remind myself of the attitude I want to have with difficult people. ;)

     

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  15. My sociopathic/narc SIL stays really upset that both of her girls ended up with **expletitive** brown eyes (she has blue eyes, herself).  Sorry for that example, those are HER words.  Her daughters have absolutely *beautiful* eyes and lush, thick, black eyelashes.  In my opinion, both of her daughters are quite a bit more beautiful than she is, and you know how narcs LOVE that!  Probably why she insults their coloring.  My SIL is a really bad person with no filter, and I'm glad I decided to stop our relationship years ago.  This is just one tiny example.

     

     

     

     

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  16. I probably wouldn't give your MIL much of a pass here.  More of a pass than FIL, but she sounds like a great enabler and a manipulator all on her own.  The bottom line for me is:  I wouldn't go anywhere my kids had to walk on egg shells or hear me verbally abused. 

     

    I've always liked this:  "If I cut you off, chances are, you handed me the scissors." 

     

    Snip, snip, OP.  And hugs.

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  17. No. I try my best not to shop that whole weekend. I don't like shopping and won't do it around Thanksgiving. I don't see anything bad with it, if done properly. But, the fact that people have gotten hurt/trampled etc over material stuff just makes me sick to my stomach. The madness has gotten out of control several times, and maybe a boycott wouldn't be a bad thing. If everyone could shop peacefully and respectfully, great. But I get the impression that's not always the case :(

    I feel the same. I make it a point now to refuse to participate in Black Friday or the 4 days or so now making up "Black Friday."

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